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So, the Shia LaBeef Thing... (WARNING possible triggers)

Started by hooplala, November 30, 2014, 03:21:58 PM

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hooplala

I peaked in my 20s, and have a face many people loathe on sight.  He made an astronomical amount of money from the Transformers movies alone.

It's hard to feel a lot of sympathy from this corner.
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Cain

From the sound of it, he never really "wanted" to get into acting - it was something he did because he was "good" at it (for a given value of good of course) and because it paid the bills.  When you look at his background, he looks a lot like most of the messed up comics out there - he wants to make people like him, because he has a very low opinion of himself, and he's good at acting as someone he's not to get them to laugh or play along, but doing that reinforces the idea that they don't like the "real" him...all of which is probably exacerbated by the celebrity status he has attained.

So maybe he did want to be an artist, all along.

hooplala

Quote from: Cain on December 02, 2014, 02:30:09 PM
From the sound of it, he never really "wanted" to get into acting - it was something he did because he was "good" at it (for a given value of good of course) and because it paid the bills.  When you look at his background, he looks a lot like most of the messed up comics out there - he wants to make people like him, because he has a very low opinion of himself, and he's good at acting as someone he's not to get them to laugh or play along, but doing that reinforces the idea that they don't like the "real" him...all of which is probably exacerbated by the celebrity status he has attained.

So maybe he did want to be an artist, all along.

Probably true.  If he sticks with it, people will eventually mostly forget that he was an actor.

His biggest problem is that a good portion of the general population (those who know him, anyway) don't really care for him.  But that could work in his favor in art.  I mean, shit, look at that jackass who glues rhinestones onto skulls.  People hate him, and he's "popular".  He just needs to embrace the hate and use it to his advantage.
"Soon all of us will have special names" — Professor Brian O'Blivion

"Now's not the time to get silly, so wear your big boots and jump on the garbage clowns." — Bob Dylan?

"Do I contradict myself?
Very well then I contradict myself,
(I am large, I contain multitudes.)"
— Walt Whitman

Junkenstein

Just back here for a second:

QuoteAs Abramović described it later: "What I learned was that... if you leave it up to the audience, they can kill you."

That's ties into so many things it's quite notable. It's likely an understatement with that "can" as well, as it's likely only time that prevented it. It was pretty extreme after 6 hours to say the least and when everyone RUNS when it's over you can be sure as hell they know they've probably done something fundamentally wrong to the other person involved.

The other thing that I can't stop thinking about is that the gun was loaded and pointed within 6 hours. While I hesitate to put a timescale on it, gut feeling is that someone would fire the damn thing within 24. Not necessarily directly at her, but I wouldn't rule it out.



Possibly another thing here is the relative social status of "artists" (In that you're not a real one until wealthy) and how that plays into things. But I may be reading too much into that.
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hooplala

Part of me wants to believe that people only picked up the gun to see if they could get her to "break character"... this was an art crowd, after all, not a Friday night at the Bucket of Blood.  But, then, perhaps my own personal prejudices are playing into that.

I wonder if there was security at either event?
"Soon all of us will have special names" — Professor Brian O'Blivion

"Now's not the time to get silly, so wear your big boots and jump on the garbage clowns." — Bob Dylan?

"Do I contradict myself?
Very well then I contradict myself,
(I am large, I contain multitudes.)"
— Walt Whitman

minuspace

Quote from: Cain on December 02, 2014, 02:30:09 PM
From the sound of it, he never really "wanted" to get into acting - it was something he did because he was "good" at it (for a given value of good of course) and because it paid the bills.  When you look at his background, he looks a lot like most of the messed up comics out there - he wants to make people like him, because he has a very low opinion of himself, and he's good at acting as someone he's not to get them to laugh or play along, but doing that reinforces the idea that they don't like the "real" him...all of which is probably exacerbated by the celebrity status he has attained.

So maybe he did want to be an artist, all along.
At least he was good enough to consistently act as if he cared.

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Cain

Actual Cannibal Shia LeBouf is the only thing that prevents me from destroying the internet these days.

P3nT4gR4m

Sooner or later, the laws of causality dictate that the best phenomenon ever has to occur.


I'm up to my arse in Brexit Numpties, but I want more.  Target-rich environments are the new sexy.
Not actually a meat product.
Ass-Kicking & Foot-Stomping Ancient Master of SHIT FUCK FUCK FUCK
Awful and Bent Behemothic Results of Last Night's Painful Squat.
High Altitude Haggis-Filled Sex Bucket From Beyond Time and Space.
Internet Monkey Person of Filthy and Immoral Pygmy-Porn Wart Contagion
Octomom Auxillary Heat Exchanger Repairman
walking the fine line line between genius and batshit fucking crazy

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Doktor Howl

Quote from: Hoopla on December 02, 2014, 02:34:46 PM

Probably true.  If he sticks with it, people will eventually mostly forget that he was an actor.

Not after the last Indiana Jones movie.  No way, no how.
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Quote from: Doktor Howl on December 07, 2014, 03:16:08 PM
Quote from: Hoopla on December 02, 2014, 02:34:46 PM

Probably true.  If he sticks with it, people will eventually mostly forget that he was an actor.

Not after the last Indiana Jones movie.  No way, no how.

Holes in on my short list of favorite movies.

I watched a lot of the stuff he did as a little kid. Pretty much always liked him.
Back to the fecal matter in the pool

minuspace

Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on December 07, 2014, 12:25:05 PM
Sooner or later, the laws of causality dictate that the best phenomenon ever has to occur.
If the best has not yet been, then will it ever necessarily become?

hooplala

So over the weekend a video of Shia ostensibly freestyling hit the net. Now, a scant few days later there are charges that his freestyling was lifted from a 1999 song.

Calling it now: Shia is the ultimate troll.
"Soon all of us will have special names" — Professor Brian O'Blivion

"Now's not the time to get silly, so wear your big boots and jump on the garbage clowns." — Bob Dylan?

"Do I contradict myself?
Very well then I contradict myself,
(I am large, I contain multitudes.)"
— Walt Whitman

Mesozoic Mister Nigel

Quote from: Hoopla on June 29, 2015, 07:49:41 PM
So over the weekend a video of Shia ostensibly freestyling hit the net. Now, a scant few days later there are charges that his freestyling was lifted from a 1999 song.

Calling it now: Shia is the ultimate troll.

I am full of hope.
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."