Calling it now: Dems snatch defeat from the jaws of victory in 2016.

[Cain]

Well, here's some dirt.  This dossier alleges full cooperation between Trump and the Russian regime, golden showers and other fun stuff.

https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/3259984/Trump-Intelligence-Allegations.pdf

[Trivial]

4channers are claiming they made Donald fanfic and sent it to some guy that sent it to the CIA.

[Cain]

4chan's /pol/ is disinformation central.  The only entry in the dossier after the date they sent that story to Rick Wilson is a piece dealing with Trump's lawyer being in Prague.

I'm not saying I believe this report either.  It's raw human intelligence without corroboration or analysis...but I'd find this report's findings more worthy of investigation than 4chan's /pol/, who are currently discussing how to use fake news to bring down Merkel's government and set up fake twitter accounts to exacerbate racial tensions within the Democratic Party.

[LMNO]

Wow, I really must be a SJW.  My first thought wasn't about the GOP hypocrisy, it was about how liberals on FB took so quickly and easily to moralistic kink-shaming.

Trump is a despicable man for many reasons, but enjoying piss play really isn't one of them.

[Faust]

Yeah, it's stupid things like that, that are going to give him an advantage. People should be relentlessly attacking his appointments, questioning the legality of some of his proposals and effectively trying to block his consolidation of his power base, because once that's through, then he starts fucking you.

But it's easier to joke about the tweets he makes, his small hands, and his physical characteristics, time spent on this is time is time handed over as wriggle room.

[Rev Thwack]

Trump is a despicable man for many reasons, but enjoying piss play really isn't one of them.

Didn't get this either. You can hit him on the coke and hookers, since they're illegal and he's against others enjoying them. I don't think he's ever said a word against watersports. Focus on where he's an actual horrible person, who cares about him being a pervert. Shit, that line of attack does nothing but humanize him... we're all a little kinky deep down inside.

[LMNO]

It also seems to stem from the same place where conservatives feel that homosexuality is gross and bad.

It's just making fun of someone because of a sexual practice, be it gay sex, pee, or cunnilingus (yes, some people think that's 'gross'.  Their loss, I suppose).

[Cain]

Yeah, people are focusing way too much on the watersports thing.

They should be focusing on the claim that the Trump campaign had sustained, purposeful contact with the Russian government at the highest levels.  That's the meat, and if it's true...

[LMNO]

Yeah, people are focusing way too much on the watersports thing.

They should be focusing on the claim that the Trump campaign had sustained, purposeful contact with the Russian government at the highest levels.  That's the meat, and if it's true...

That, right there.

[Faust]

Putin/Trump presidency vice presidency? Would that be Preferable to Pence?

[The Good Reverend Roger]

Wow, I really must be a SJW.  My first thought wasn't about the GOP hypocrisy, it was about how liberals on FB took so quickly and easily to moralistic kink-shaming.

Trump is a despicable man for many reasons, but enjoying piss play really isn't one of them.

Not really the point.

[East Coast Hustle]

Wow, I really must be a SJW.  My first thought wasn't about the GOP hypocrisy, it was about how liberals on FB took so quickly and easily to moralistic kink-shaming.

Trump is a despicable man for many reasons, but enjoying piss play really isn't one of them.

I agree in principle, but any ammo will do. And if that ammo happens to be the kind of thing that his own supporters moralize against so much the better. Trying to convince like-minded people not to support him is a waste of time, the real value is in turning his own base against him.

[East Coast Hustle]

The current Weird Times are no place to be caught desperately clinging to the moral high ground.

[Faust]

Yeah, people are focusing way too much on the watersports thing.

They should be focusing on the claim that the Trump campaign had sustained, purposeful contact with the Russian government at the highest levels.  That's the meat, and if it's true...

Every ounce of energy should be pushed into verifying these claims, public outcry is now mixed over so many issues, it weakens every individual lobbying campaign, he's literally shit in so many ways that its difficult to tackle them all head on, this should be the focus now.

[Rev Thwack]

Putin/Trump presidency vice presidency? Would that be Preferable to Pence?

Depends on your definition of better. A Pence presidency would be an assault on the 1st Amendment via his attempts at instituting a theocracy. Trump has been attacking the 1st via press/speech, as well as the 4th, 5th, 8th, and 14th, as well as his cabinet nominations generally being people who want to destroy their department, or are corrupt as hell.

Is is better to have an administration that wants to watch the system burn, or one that's throwing gasoline on the fire while whistling?