Calling it now: Dems snatch defeat from the jaws of victory in 2016.

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Well, here's some dirt.  This dossier alleges full cooperation between Trump and the Russian regime, golden showers and other fun stuff.

https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/3259984/Trump-Intelligence-Allegations.pdf

Weird.  On drive home Monday, I noticed three licence plates referencing water-sports.  Suppose that makes sense now...  Watersports and licence plates... 

[Prelate Diogenes Shandor]

Yeah, people are focusing way too much on the watersports thing.

They should be focusing on the claim that the Trump campaign had sustained, purposeful contact with the Russian government at the highest levels.  That's the meat, and if it's true...

Does the mainstream GOP still hate him? Maybe he'll be impeached, or even jailed for treason (well, one can hope)

[Cain]

For the most part, they've bent the knee.  How much of it is rank opportunism is anyone's guess, but I wouldn't hold my breath for impeachment unless the Dems take back Congress (and even then, I wouldn't place money on it).

[The Good Reverend Roger]

The current Weird Times are no place to be caught desperately clinging to the moral high ground.

This.  Right here.

[The Good Reverend Roger]

Putin/Trump presidency vice presidency? Would that be Preferable to Pence?

Depends on your definition of better. A Pence presidency would be an assault on the 1st Amendment via his attempts at instituting a theocracy. Trump has been attacking the 1st via press/speech, as well as the 4th, 5th, 8th, and 14th, as well as his cabinet nominations generally being people who want to destroy their department, or are corrupt as hell.

Is is better to have an administration that wants to watch the system burn, or one that's throwing gasoline on the fire while whistling?

Pence is a dominionist.  That's all I need to know.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

Wow, I really must be a SJW.  My first thought wasn't about the GOP hypocrisy, it was about how liberals on FB took so quickly and easily to moralistic kink-shaming.

Trump is a despicable man for many reasons, but enjoying piss play really isn't one of them.

Yeah, I can't bring myself to give a single fuck about that.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

Yeah, people are focusing way too much on the watersports thing.

They should be focusing on the claim that the Trump campaign had sustained, purposeful contact with the Russian government at the highest levels.  That's the meat, and if it's true...

If it's true, it's serious as fuck.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

Wow, I really must be a SJW.  My first thought wasn't about the GOP hypocrisy, it was about how liberals on FB took so quickly and easily to moralistic kink-shaming.

Trump is a despicable man for many reasons, but enjoying piss play really isn't one of them.

I agree in principle, but any ammo will do. And if that ammo happens to be the kind of thing that his own supporters moralize against so much the better. Trying to convince like-minded people not to support him is a waste of time, the real value is in turning his own base against him.

His base has a long and storied history of forgiving or ignoring sexual transgressions on the part of its own, while continuing to attack Democrats for theirs.

[Prelate Diogenes Shandor]

Putin/Trump presidency vice presidency? Would that be Preferable to Pence?

Depends on your definition of better. A Pence presidency would be an assault on the 1st Amendment via his attempts at instituting a theocracy. Trump has been attacking the 1st via press/speech, as well as the 4th, 5th, 8th, and 14th, as well as his cabinet nominations generally being people who want to destroy their department, or are corrupt as hell.

Is is better to have an administration that wants to watch the system burn, or one that's throwing gasoline on the fire while whistling?

Pence is a dominionist.  That's all I need to know.

So they're both sellouts to foreign powers

[Trivial]

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

Pure creative genius.

[Bu🤠ns]

This Dugin guy is quite a trip https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GGunRKWtWBs

[Cain]

Oh yeah, he's basically a postmodern traditionalist with a bit of chaos magic and a lot of fascism thrown into the mix.

[LMNO]

a postmodern traditionalist with a bit of chaos magic and a lot of fascism thrown into the mix.

That's a lot of words strung together.


Sorry, best I can do.  Colonel Observation, reporting.

[Cain]

That is, unfortunately, the way of Dugin.  Postmodernism by arguing there are no essential truths, but civilization specific (ie; Russian) truths, traditionalist in his support for the Orthodox Church, chaos magic in terms of his aesthetics and, well, I think we covered the fascist angle well enough.