Calling it now: Dems snatch defeat from the jaws of victory in 2016.

[LMNO]

I think we need a new name for Bernie Bros, seeing as how they don't give a shit what he thinks anymore.

[chaotic neutral observer]

Are leftist and liberal distinct terms, now?  I must have missed the memo.

[LMNO]

Are leftist and liberal distinct terms, now?  I must have missed the memo.

In general, it distinguishes the centrist/conservative Democrat from the progressive/socialist Independent (or something like that)

Like, a lot of "Karens" are liberals -- they vote blue no matter who, and also call the cops on Black people for being Black in their neighborhood.

Edit: You know the "white moderates" that MLK wrote about in the Letter From Birmingham Jail?  Them.

[POFP]

Are leftist and liberal distinct terms, now?  I must have missed the memo.

From my view, Liberals wanna regulate Capitalism because they think that will solve the inequity crisis and prevent Fascism. A Leftist insists that Capitalism is a stepping stone to Fascism, and that it must be eradicated and replaced in order to prevent Fascism.


Liberals, as LMNO indicated, miss the fundamental point, and inherently support the Fascist-facing status quo.


I think this shift in verbiage definition is a reaction to the Right shifting the Overton Window too far in their direction. Political Discourse is too far Right, so it's time to shift the dialogue more Left until we're offered Candidates that will open a more direct path to Revolution.

[chaotic neutral observer]

In general, it distinguishes the centrist/conservative Democrat from the progressive/socialist Independent (or something like that)

Like, a lot of "Karens" are liberals -- they vote blue no matter who, and also call the cops on Black people for being Black in their neighborhood.

Edit: You know the "white moderates" that MLK wrote about in the Letter From Birmingham Jail?  Them.

Thanks, I think I get it.

I usually think of liberal as meaning "left of centre, but not necessarily hard-core socialist", while it seems the American definition currently puts liberal somewhat to the right of centre, which I would call "moderate conservatism".

[Doktor Howl]

Are leftist and liberal distinct terms, now?  I must have missed the memo.

In real terms?

Liberals are still liberals.

Lefties are mostly populists.  Like a slightly smarter version of MAGA freaks.

[Doktor Howl]

In general, it distinguishes the centrist/conservative Democrat from the progressive/socialist Independent (or something like that)

Like, a lot of "Karens" are liberals -- they vote blue no matter who, and also call the cops on Black people for being Black in their neighborhood.

Edit: You know the "white moderates" that MLK wrote about in the Letter From Birmingham Jail?  Them.

Thanks, I think I get it.

I usually think of liberal as meaning "left of centre, but not necessarily hard-core socialist", while it seems the American definition currently puts liberal somewhat to the right of centre, which I would call "moderate conservatism".

That's not even the overton window doing that.

That's just Howie wossnames' screeching fanboys doing that.

[Junkenstein]

Are leftist and liberal distinct terms, now?  I must have missed the memo.

In real terms?

Liberals are still liberals.

Lefties are mostly populists.  Like a slightly smarter version of MAGA freaks.

One will also be unable to understand ideas like "maximum wage" and the other will be rather offended about it.

[Elder Iptuous]

It seems to me that the confusion over political labels' accelerating changes reveals the fact that a one dimensional model is ridiculous and harmful.

[The Johnny]

For example, in other parts of the world, being republican and a democrat mean the same thing... but in your personal american lingo it seems that when you guys speak of a republic, it refers to the time when slaves were not human, thus, "everyones decision mattered" except said sub-human slaves.

Greek definition vs modern definition, tomato to-mato

[Doktor Howl]

I think we need a new name for Bernie Bros, seeing as how they don't give a shit what he thinks anymore.

"Trump voters."

[Faust]

Cheeto Announcing his third term today.
The more I think about it, he is not the problem, he is the logical outcome of a broken system. Until that's fixed this is the new Normal.
MAGA Bar Amerika

[Cain]

It's not the first time he's floated this either. Of course being liable for prosecution the moment he stops being President certainly isn't a perverse incentive for him to stay in office for forever or anything...

[Faust]

The last time he suggested it his followers tried the "He's joking to upset fragile liberals" card. Now he has moved on to openly discussing his plans to be President-For-Life, I'd hope he has alienated some of those people who defended him the first time

[Cain]

  of course he hasnt