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Calling it now: Dems snatch defeat from the jaws of victory in 2016.

Started by Doktor Howl, August 04, 2015, 12:19:20 AM

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Pergamos

So Nevada was a mess, and now the Democratic establishment is pushing the idea that Sanders supporters are violent, really hard.  Whether this is true or not isn't really the point, at least not in my eyes, since it so closely mirrors the way that black lives matter, Occupy, and the Seattle WTO protests were deligitimized in the public eye by calling them violent protests.  Philadelphia is going to be a shitshow.

Also, what the votes would really have come out as in Nevada is also beside the point.  It would not have been enough to make a difference, but it's a crucial narrative moment, for both sides.  Berners get to see the election being stolen, moderates get to see violence and good reason for the skull cracking and tear gas that will be coming in Philly.

QueenThera

A question occurs to me.

How easy is it to immigrate to Canada? Should I be starting the paperwork for that now, or can it wait for a confirmation of Trump winning the presidency?

There are too many jokes about preparing for Trump online, not enough actual advice.
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Pergamos

Quote from: BrotherPrickle on May 19, 2016, 09:42:12 PM
A question occurs to me.

How easy is it to immigrate to Canada? Should I be starting the paperwork for that now, or can it wait for a confirmation of Trump winning the presidency?

There are too many jokes about preparing for Trump online, not enough actual advice.

Hard.  Canada is a great place to live and they don't want everyone taking advantage of that. 

QueenThera

Quote from: Pergamos on May 19, 2016, 10:04:58 PM
Quote from: BrotherPrickle on May 19, 2016, 09:42:12 PM
A question occurs to me.

How easy is it to immigrate to Canada? Should I be starting the paperwork for that now, or can it wait for a confirmation of Trump winning the presidency?

There are too many jokes about preparing for Trump online, not enough actual advice.

Hard.  Canada is a great place to live and they don't want everyone taking advantage of that.
I'd like to go over with my girlfriend, four children, and my ailing mother ideally.

... I don't have a chance in hell of being able to plan this out properly.
Often incoherent. Tends to ramble on about various topics.
Hopes to get beyond that.

Formerly BrotherPrickle


East Coast Hustle

Quote from: BrotherPrickle on May 19, 2016, 10:51:57 PM
Quote from: Pergamos on May 19, 2016, 10:04:58 PM
Quote from: BrotherPrickle on May 19, 2016, 09:42:12 PM
A question occurs to me.

How easy is it to immigrate to Canada? Should I be starting the paperwork for that now, or can it wait for a confirmation of Trump winning the presidency?

There are too many jokes about preparing for Trump online, not enough actual advice.

Hard.  Canada is a great place to live and they don't want everyone taking advantage of that.
I'd like to go over with my girlfriend, four children, and my ailing mother ideally.

... I don't have a chance in hell of being able to plan this out properly.

As long as you're fabulously wealthy they'll welcome you and your brood with open arms.
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Quote from: BrotherPrickle on May 19, 2016, 10:51:57 PM
Quote from: Pergamos on May 19, 2016, 10:04:58 PM
Quote from: BrotherPrickle on May 19, 2016, 09:42:12 PM
A question occurs to me.

How easy is it to immigrate to Canada? Should I be starting the paperwork for that now, or can it wait for a confirmation of Trump winning the presidency?

There are too many jokes about preparing for Trump online, not enough actual advice.

Hard.  Canada is a great place to live and they don't want everyone taking advantage of that.
I'd like to go over with my girlfriend, four children, and my ailing mother ideally.

... I don't have a chance in hell of being able to plan this out properly.

That's probably not realistic. Easiest way to get in is to marry a Canadian.

LMNO


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So it looks like there's more and more stuff turning up re: Rodders' emails/lack of security standards.

Will she be indicted?

Sanders and Trump are talking about debating each other... should be interesting to see who comes out on top there... and how many pops are taken at HRC for not being there.



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Pergamos

I was hoping she would be, prior to the Dem convention.  I don't think she will, and if she is after the convention that will be rather blatant interference in an election.

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Cain

If she is, they better go after Condi and Powell too.

Seems like this was SOP for Secretaries of State, going by what I've read of the most recent report (not much, admittedly).

But they probably wont be, because the Bush years are like some sort of fever dream which, if you go by people who are actually in politics, never actually happened.

LMNO

Wanted to see if this holds up under scrutiny, or if there's some bigger picture I'm missing.