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Calling it now: Dems snatch defeat from the jaws of victory in 2016.

Started by Doktor Howl, August 04, 2015, 12:19:20 AM

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Cain

#661
August 01, 2016, 09:04:40 AM
Accelerationism never considers that the only thing it is pushing us closer to is the Great Filter. 

Cain

#662
August 01, 2016, 11:32:01 PM
You may want to look at Trump's latest ABC interview

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/08/01/donald-trumps-abc-interview-may-be-his-bestworst-yet/?wpisrc=nl_most-draw4&wpmm=1

Includes some hilarious backpedaling/denial/trying to have your cake and eat it on Russia, Ukraine and NATO.

Junkenstein

#663
August 02, 2016, 02:20:04 AM
Quote from: Cain on August 01, 2016, 11:32:01 PM
You may want to look at Trump's latest ABC interview

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/08/01/donald-trumps-abc-interview-may-be-his-bestworst-yet/?wpisrc=nl_most-draw4&wpmm=1

Includes some hilarious backpedaling/denial/trying to have your cake and eat it on Russia, Ukraine and NATO.

The highlights are a nice touch.

Increasingly convinced this is how we will get the beast and the smiler. In 3 cycles it's just going to be trump classic vs trump original.
Nine naked Men just walking down the road will cause a heap of trouble for all concerned.

Mesozoic Mister Nigel

#664
August 02, 2016, 06:44:05 PM
Quote from: Cain on August 01, 2016, 11:32:01 PM
You may want to look at Trump's latest ABC interview

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/08/01/donald-trumps-abc-interview-may-be-his-bestworst-yet/?wpisrc=nl_most-draw4&wpmm=1

Includes some hilarious backpedaling/denial/trying to have your cake and eat it on Russia, Ukraine and NATO.

That interview really highlights that Trump's strategy is to just insist the same things over and over, and hope that people just believe them, regardless of evidence.
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."

LMNO

#665
August 02, 2016, 06:45:33 PM
Sadly, it's been known to work.

Mesozoic Mister Nigel

#666
August 02, 2016, 06:59:43 PM
Yep. People believe what they hear, and it's very difficult to undo those beliefs.
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."

Mesozoic Mister Nigel

#667
August 02, 2016, 07:01:21 PM
See how well it worked with the whole "Hillary is a liar and a criminal" thing... we now have liberals who believe that just because it's been repeated so incredibly often. It's total bullshit, but if you say bullshit enough times, you will convince the people who want to believe it.
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."

POFP

#668
August 02, 2016, 07:19:55 PM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on August 02, 2016, 06:44:05 PM
Quote from: Cain on August 01, 2016, 11:32:01 PM
You may want to look at Trump's latest ABC interview

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/08/01/donald-trumps-abc-interview-may-be-his-bestworst-yet/?wpisrc=nl_most-draw4&wpmm=1

Includes some hilarious backpedaling/denial/trying to have your cake and eat it on Russia, Ukraine and NATO.

That interview really highlights that Trump's strategy is to just insist the same things over and over, and hope that people just believe them, regardless of evidence.

I believe Scott Adams (Writer/artist of comic strip "Dilbert") did a bit on Trump being an absurdly effective propagandist. He was basically saying that regardless of your position, his skill with generalizations and shifting attention from one topic to another were almost unparalleled, and that that's why he was winning the nomination (This was before the nomination). I don't remember his particular stance on the politics, but it was pretty detailed and a good watch. I think he had a written piece on it as well.

Will edit with the link later if I get a chance.
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Being a Product of their Environment's Collective Order and Disorder, [Aforementioned] also reserves the Right to have their ideas, technologies, and otherwise all Intellectual Property stolen, re-purposed, and re-attributed at Will ONLY by other Certified Popes. Corporations, LLC's, and otherwise Capitalist-based organizations are NOT capable of being Certified Popes.

Battering Rams not included.

Mesozoic Mister Nigel

#669
August 02, 2016, 08:02:01 PM
Quote from: Fernando Poo on August 02, 2016, 07:19:55 PM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on August 02, 2016, 06:44:05 PM
Quote from: Cain on August 01, 2016, 11:32:01 PM
You may want to look at Trump's latest ABC interview

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/08/01/donald-trumps-abc-interview-may-be-his-bestworst-yet/?wpisrc=nl_most-draw4&wpmm=1

Includes some hilarious backpedaling/denial/trying to have your cake and eat it on Russia, Ukraine and NATO.

That interview really highlights that Trump's strategy is to just insist the same things over and over, and hope that people just believe them, regardless of evidence.

I believe Scott Adams (Writer/artist of comic strip "Dilbert") did a bit on Trump being an absurdly effective propagandist. He was basically saying that regardless of your position, his skill with generalizations and shifting attention from one topic to another were almost unparalleled, and that that's why he was winning the nomination (This was before the nomination). I don't remember his particular stance on the politics, but it was pretty detailed and a good watch. I think he had a written piece on it as well.

Will edit with the link later if I get a chance.

Trump is, fundamentally, a salesman. He is effective for the same reason David Avocado Wolf and Mercola are effective; people will disregard the vague hand-waving nonsense and obvious bullshit as long as the take-home promises them what they want.
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."

POFP

#670
August 03, 2016, 05:53:19 PM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on August 02, 2016, 08:02:01 PM
Quote from: Fernando Poo on August 02, 2016, 07:19:55 PM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on August 02, 2016, 06:44:05 PM
Quote from: Cain on August 01, 2016, 11:32:01 PM
You may want to look at Trump's latest ABC interview

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/08/01/donald-trumps-abc-interview-may-be-his-bestworst-yet/?wpisrc=nl_most-draw4&wpmm=1

Includes some hilarious backpedaling/denial/trying to have your cake and eat it on Russia, Ukraine and NATO.

That interview really highlights that Trump's strategy is to just insist the same things over and over, and hope that people just believe them, regardless of evidence.

I believe Scott Adams (Writer/artist of comic strip "Dilbert") did a bit on Trump being an absurdly effective propagandist. He was basically saying that regardless of your position, his skill with generalizations and shifting attention from one topic to another were almost unparalleled, and that that's why he was winning the nomination (This was before the nomination). I don't remember his particular stance on the politics, but it was pretty detailed and a good watch. I think he had a written piece on it as well.

Will edit with the link later if I get a chance.

Trump is, fundamentally, a salesman. He is effective for the same reason David Avocado Wolf and Mercola are effective; people will disregard the vague hand-waving nonsense and obvious bullshit as long as the take-home promises them what they want.


  ...he stil gon bild da wall doe, rite?
      /
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This Certified Pope™ reserves the Right to, on occasion, "be a complete dumbass", and otherwise ponder "idiotic" and/or "useless" ideas and other such "tomfoolery." [Aforementioned] are only responsible for the results of these actions and tendencies when they have had their addictive substance of choice for that day.

Being a Product of their Environment's Collective Order and Disorder, [Aforementioned] also reserves the Right to have their ideas, technologies, and otherwise all Intellectual Property stolen, re-purposed, and re-attributed at Will ONLY by other Certified Popes. Corporations, LLC's, and otherwise Capitalist-based organizations are NOT capable of being Certified Popes.

Battering Rams not included.

Junkenstein

#671
August 04, 2016, 03:10:16 PM
It depends what you mean by build.

If you mean cheap land sales to friends, surprisingly expensive feasibility studies and money going to companies for construction work with nothing to show, etc. Etc. then yes, yes he is.
Nine naked Men just walking down the road will cause a heap of trouble for all concerned.

Da6s

#672
August 04, 2016, 05:26:42 PM
This NYT footage of Trump rally crowds is sort of terrifying. Disclaimer: language and slurs in full effect.

http://www.nytimes.com/video/us/politics/100000004533191/unfiltered-voices-from-donald-trumps-crowds.html
We appear to be doomed by our DNA to repeat the same destructive behaviors our forebears have repeated for millenia. If anything our problem solving skills have actually diminished with the advent of technology & our ubiquitous modern conveniences. & yet despite our predisposition towards fear-driven hostility; towards what we anachronistically term primitive behavior another instinct is just as firmly encoded in our make-up. We are capable as our ancestors were of incredible breathtaking acts of kindness. Every hour of every day a man risks his life at a moments notice to save another. Forget for a moment the belligerent benevolent billionaires who grant the unfortunate a crumb of costfree cake. I speak of pure acts of selflessness. A Mother who rushes into the street to save a child from a speeding vehicle. A person who runs into a burning building to reach a family trapped on the upper story. Such actions,such moments,such unconscious selfless decisions,define what it is to be human

Prelate Diogenes Shandor

#673
August 05, 2016, 12:41:35 AM
I heard an off the wall conspiracy theory that Trump was actually a deep-cover Democrat out to destroy the Republican Party. Even though it's almost certainly not true it might do some good to spread this rumor around; it could weaken his support base if it becomes prevalent enough.
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Pergamos

#674
August 05, 2016, 01:55:31 AM
Quote from: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on August 05, 2016, 12:41:35 AM
I heard an off the wall conspiracy theory that Trump was actually a deep-cover Democrat out to destroy the Republican Party. Even though it's almost certainly not true it might do some good to spread this rumor around; it could weaken his support base if it becomes prevalent enough.

It's a pretty easy one to believe.  He's been friends with the Clintons for a long time, contributed to Hillary' campaign in 2008, they went to his wedding.  The idea of shenanigans is easy to entertain.
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