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Calling it now: Dems snatch defeat from the jaws of victory in 2016.

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Prelate Diogenes Shandor

Can anybody explain why the Republicans seem to think that the State Department and not the Department of Defense is in charge of repelling attacks on American soil?
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Quote from: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on October 30, 2016, 03:59:33 AM
Can anybody explain why the Republicans seem to think that the State Department and not the Department of Defense is in charge of repelling attacks on American soil?

Pure conjecture, but probably for the same reason the Pentagon carries out most direct country-to-country US diplomacy ie; no-one knows what the fuck they are doing.

xXRon_Paul_42016Xxx(weed)

http://www.cnn.com/2016/10/28/politics/fbi-reviewing-new-emails-in-clinton-probe-director-tells-senate-judiciary-committee/

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The newly discovered emails are part of an investigation into Anthony Weiner, according to law enforcement sources. Weiner, the disgraced former congressman, recently separated from top Clinton aide Huma Abedin after a sexting incident.

The FBI and the New York Police Department have opened preliminary investigations of allegations that Weiner, a former New York Democratic congressman, exchanged sexually explicit text messages with a purportedly underage girl.

DICKPICS SAVED DEMOCRACY.

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#1128
Quote from: xXRon_Paul_42016Xxx(weed) on October 30, 2016, 03:34:09 PM
http://www.cnn.com/2016/10/28/politics/fbi-reviewing-new-emails-in-clinton-probe-director-tells-senate-judiciary-committee/

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The newly discovered emails are part of an investigation into Anthony Weiner, according to law enforcement sources. Weiner, the disgraced former congressman, recently separated from top Clinton aide Huma Abedin after a sexting incident.

The FBI and the New York Police Department have opened preliminary investigations of allegations that Weiner, a former New York Democratic congressman, exchanged sexually explicit text messages with a purportedly underage girl.

So nothing relevant or important?

EDIT:
Is this honestly the best October surprise they could come up with? More of the same? More stuff that didn't ever matter in the first place? Hillary Clinton's looking better and better.

EDIT:
I mean, the combination is new, but both "scandals" are still totally irrelevant.
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Quote from: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on October 30, 2016, 04:52:19 PM
Quote from: xXRon_Paul_42016Xxx(weed) on October 30, 2016, 03:34:09 PM
http://www.cnn.com/2016/10/28/politics/fbi-reviewing-new-emails-in-clinton-probe-director-tells-senate-judiciary-committee/

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The newly discovered emails are part of an investigation into Anthony Weiner, according to law enforcement sources. Weiner, the disgraced former congressman, recently separated from top Clinton aide Huma Abedin after a sexting incident.

The FBI and the New York Police Department have opened preliminary investigations of allegations that Weiner, a former New York Democratic congressman, exchanged sexually explicit text messages with a purportedly underage girl.

So nothing relevant or important?

EDIT:
Is this honestly the best October surprise they could come up with? More of the same? More stuff that didn't ever matter in the first place? Hillary Clinton's looking better and better.

EDIT:
I mean, the combination is new, but both "scandals" are still totally irrelevant.

What October Surprise? The FBI reopened their investigation. I guess you dont care that a presidental candidate is under criminal investigation but a lot of voters will.

Also Im curious, if rigging hte primaries by punishing delegates who voted against her, transparently bribing the FBI, using a charity as a front for shady backroom deals as well as profit, secretly advocating completely free trade and open borders behind closed doors with bankers, bankers deciding cabinet members, scheming to produce "an unaware and compliant citizenry", using her position in the Sate Department to get insider details on the investigation into her, and very recently release, http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-10-28/dramatic-2006-recording-captures-hillary-clinton-proposing-rig-palestine-election casually suggesting we rig an election dont count and controversies to you what does?

Honest question, what exactly would have to be leaked for you to even recognize this as a scandal?

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Quote from: Fernando The Poo, Hole of Ass on October 30, 2016, 08:08:27 PM
A ZEROHEDGE LINK? Were you using a moniker here a few months ago?  :lulz:

Or did you not see the Zerohedge appreciation thread?

Well shit, I guess that completely discredits this recording of HRC advocating rigging a foreign election.
https://soundcloud.com/user-30899546/hrc-determine-who-win-1

MMIX

Quote from: xXRon_Paul_42016Xxx(weed) on October 30, 2016, 08:14:50 PM
Quote from: Fernando The Poo, Hole of Ass on October 30, 2016, 08:08:27 PM
A ZEROHEDGE LINK? Were you using a moniker here a few months ago?  :lulz:

Or did you not see the Zerohedge appreciation thread?

Well shit, I guess that completely discredits this recording of HRC advocating rigging a foreign election.
https://soundcloud.com/user-30899546/hrc-determine-who-win-1

Actually the fact that the word determine means "ascertain or establish exactly by research or calculation" completely discredits your dubious and partisan interpretation. Try engaging your critical faculties, assuming you have any still functional, before you spew any more of this biased drivel, you are embarrassing yourself.
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Quote from: MMIX on October 30, 2016, 09:34:00 PM
Quote from: xXRon_Paul_42016Xxx(weed) on October 30, 2016, 08:14:50 PM
Quote from: Fernando The Poo, Hole of Ass on October 30, 2016, 08:08:27 PM
A ZEROHEDGE LINK? Were you using a moniker here a few months ago?  :lulz:

Or did you not see the Zerohedge appreciation thread?

Well shit, I guess that completely discredits this recording of HRC advocating rigging a foreign election.
https://soundcloud.com/user-30899546/hrc-determine-who-win-1

Actually the fact that the word determine means "ascertain or establish exactly by research or calculation" completely discredits your dubious and partisan interpretation. Try engaging your critical faculties, assuming you have any still functional, before you spew any more of this biased drivel, you are embarrassing yourself.

So the election was a mistake because they didnt do something to figure out who was going to win? There already were roughly accurate opinion polls leading up to the election:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinian_legislative_election,_2006#Opinion_polls

MMIX

Quote from: xXRon_Paul_42016Xxx(weed) on October 30, 2016, 10:13:29 PM

So the election was a mistake because they didnt do something to figure out who was going to win? There already were roughly accurate opinion polls leading up to the election:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinian_legislative_election,_2006#Opinion_polls

If you are the US then I would seriously suggest that when you are dealing with such a tricky and potentially explosive issue as an election in the Palestinian territories you need deeper and better intel than an opinion poll. The wiki you link to just proves the volatility of the situation. Despite your inaccurate assertion none of the 3 opinion polls they list gave results which were borne out by the actual election and they all suggested that the US's preferred party was winning when in fact it lost.

So lets take a quick look at the actual source of your evidence. It is from a publication called Observer
Quote2006 Audio Emerges of Hillary Clinton Proposing Rigging Palestine Election
Unearthed tape: 'We should have made sure that we did something to determine who was going to win'
By Ken Kurson • 10/28/16 1:00pm

On September 5, 2006, Eli Chomsky was an editor and staff writer for the Jewish Press, and Hillary Clinton was running for a shoo-in re-election as a U.S. senator. Her trip making the rounds of editorial boards brought her to Brooklyn to meet the editorial board of the Jewish Press.
The tape was never released and has only been heard by the small handful of Jewish Press staffers in the room. According to Chomsky, his old-school audiocassette is the only existent copy and no one has heard it since 2006, until today when he played it for the Observer.

The tape is 45 minutes and contains much that is no longer relevant, such as analysis of the re-election battle that Sen. Joe Lieberman was then facing in Connecticut. But a seemingly throwaway remark about elections in areas controlled by the Palestinian Authority has taken on new relevance amid persistent accusations in the presidential campaign by Clinton's Republican opponent Donald Trump that the current election is "rigged."

Speaking to the Jewish Press about the January 25, 2006, election for the second Palestinian Legislative Council (the legislature of the Palestinian National Authority), Clinton weighed in about the result, which was a resounding victory for Hamas (74 seats) over the U.S.-preferred Fatah (45 seats).

"I do not think we should have pushed for an election in the Palestinian territories. I think that was a big mistake," said Sen. Clinton. "And if we were going to push for an election, then we should have made sure that we did something to determine who was going to win."
Yeah, I mean what kind of a shmuck cheer leads an election which their candidate is destined to lose?

And the source of this information is of some interest too since it is not exactly from an unbiased publication; if you read right to the bottom of the page you will find this little gem:-
QuoteDisclosure: Donald Trump is the father-in-law of Jared Kushner, publisher of Observer Media. 
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xXRon_Paul_42016Xxx(weed)

Quote from: MMIX on October 30, 2016, 11:05:35 PM
Quote from: xXRon_Paul_42016Xxx(weed) on October 30, 2016, 10:13:29 PM

So the election was a mistake because they didnt do something to figure out who was going to win? There already were roughly accurate opinion polls leading up to the election:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinian_legislative_election,_2006#Opinion_polls

If you are the US then I would seriously suggest that when you are dealing with such a tricky and potentially explosive issue as an election in the Palestinian territories you need deeper and better intel than an opinion poll. The wiki you link to just proves the volatility of the situation. Despite your inaccurate assertion none of the 3 opinion polls they list gave results which were borne out by the actual election and they all suggested that the US's preferred party was winning when in fact it lost.

Except they only did if you look at them individually. Look at them chronologically and they show Hamas closing the gap as the election approached where they won by a small margin.

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Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on October 31, 2016, 12:30:30 AM
http://thedailybanter.com/2016/10/the-fbi-isnt-reopening-the-hillary-email-case/

Still isnt the best situation to be in leading up to election day.

Quote
n previous congressional testimony, I referred to the fact that the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) had completed its investigation of former Secretary Clinton?s personal email server. Due to recent developments, I am writing to supplement my previous testimony.

In connection with an unrelated case, the FBI has learned of the existence of emails that appear to be pertinent to the investigation. I am writing to inform you that the investigative team briefed me on this yesterday, and I agreed that the FBI should take investigative steps designed to allow investigators to review these emails to determine whether they contain classified information, as well as to assess their importance to our investigation.

Although the FBI cannot yet assess whether or not this material may be significant. and I cannot predict how long it will take us to complete this additional work, I believe it is important to update your Committees about our efforts in light of my previous testimony.

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Even if reporters had simply skimmed the letter, they would've understood that the additional emails are "pertinent to" an "unrelated case" and that investigators would be apparently reviewing the emails in the context of this other case. It turns out the unrelated case is the bureau's probe into the Anthony Weiner sexting scandal.

wat

Prelate Diogenes Shandor

I would like to weigh in and say that I don't care about Anthony Weiner sextig people and have no respect for anybody who does. He could appear naked on evening network television for all I care; there's no valid reason why it should matter.
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He who fights with monsters must take care lest he thereby become a monster -Nietzsche


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Quote from: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on October 31, 2016, 02:00:05 AM
I would like to weigh in and say that I don't care about Anthony Weiner sextig people and have no respect for anybody who does. He could appear naked on evening network television for all I care; there's no valid reason why it should matter.

It was an underage girl.