Calling it now: Dems snatch defeat from the jaws of victory in 2016.

[POFP]

A ZEROHEDGE LINK? Were you using a moniker here a few months ago? 

Or did you not see the Zerohedge appreciation thread?

Well shit, I guess that completely discredits this recording of HRC advocating rigging a foreign election.
https://soundcloud.com/user-30899546/hrc-determine-who-win-1

Are you really trying to convince a Conservative that the establishment or Hillary can't be trusted? Preaching to the choir a bit there, buddy.

But what I can't stand is bullshit reasoning. Zerohedge is chuck full of conspiracy obsessions, confirmation bias, and the usual nuttiness. And if you seriously think that any part of the Alt Right believes anything that you've posted here (Except for the anti-Hillary thing, that's the ONE similarity), then your media filter/bubble has confused you beyond reason.

Hell, if you want the Alt Right to back you up, you definitely can't be going around using terms like Eco-fascism. You see, though the Alt Righters may be fascists, fundamentally, they consider such a thing to be leftist mentality. Therefore, regardless of which side of the fence you're on, your open support of such terms alienates you more and more from that crowd.

[xXRon_Paul_42016Xxx(weed)]

A ZEROHEDGE LINK? Were you using a moniker here a few months ago? 

Or did you not see the Zerohedge appreciation thread?

Well shit, I guess that completely discredits this recording of HRC advocating rigging a foreign election.
https://soundcloud.com/user-30899546/hrc-determine-who-win-1

Are you really trying to convince a Conservative that the establishment or Hillary can't be trusted? Preaching to the choir a bit there, buddy.

But what I can't stand is bullshit reasoning. Zerohedge is chuck full of conspiracy obsessions, confirmation bias, and the usual nuttiness. And if you seriously think that any part of the Alt Right believes anything that you've posted here (Except for the anti-Hillary thing, that's the ONE similarity), then your media filter/bubble has confused you beyond reason.

Hell, if you want the Alt Right to back you up, you definitely can't be going around using terms like Eco-fascism. You see, though the Alt Righters may be fascists, fundamentally, they consider such a thing to be leftist mentality. Therefore, regardless of which side of the fence you're on, your open support of such terms alienates you more and more from that crowd.

What are you basing your knowledge of the Alt-Right on, and why does it trump my first hand experience? Most of the eco-stuff Ive posted here is very commonly talked about in the Alt-Right. A lot of the whitepapers I got from them in fact.

[Mesozoic Mister Nigel]

http://www.cnn.com/2016/10/28/politics/fbi-reviewing-new-emails-in-clinton-probe-director-tells-senate-judiciary-committee/

Same story, less spin.

[xXRon_Paul_42016Xxx(weed)]

It turns out she DOES have an ongoing investigation.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kiy7BFnubps

[The Good Reverend Roger]

It turns out she DOES have an ongoing investigation.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kiy7BFnubps

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/fbi-agents-pressed-justice-unsuccessfully-for-probe-of-clinton-foundation/2016/10/30/98c823ec-9ee9-11e6-8d63-3e0a660f1f04_story.html

[Junkenstein]

Relevant to the hypocritical bullshit around documents:

http://europe.newsweek.com/donald-trump-companies-destroyed-emails-documents-515120?rm=eu

The Trump strategy was simple: deny, impede and delay, while destroying documents the court had ordered them to hand over.

Finally, under subpoena, Trump appeared for a short deposition. When asked about the missing documents, he made a shocking admission: The Trumps had been destroying their corporate records for the previous six months and had no document-retention program. They had conducted no inspections to determine which files might have been sought in the discovery requests or might otherwise be related to the case. Instead, in order to "save space," Trump testified, officials with his company had been tossing documents into the shredder and garbage.

Shocking revelations. I'm sure you're all as surprised as I am.

[xXRon_Paul_42016Xxx(weed)]

It turns out she DOES have an ongoing investigation.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kiy7BFnubps

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/fbi-agents-pressed-justice-unsuccessfully-for-probe-of-clinton-foundation/2016/10/30/98c823ec-9ee9-11e6-8d63-3e0a660f1f04_story.html

Justice doesnt have the right to stop FBI investigations, and the FBI is still pursuing.

http://www.wsj.com/articles/laptop-may-include-thousands-of-emails-linked-to-hillary-clintons-private-server-1477854957

According to a person familiar with the probes, on Aug. 12, a senior Justice Department official called Mr. McCabe to voice his displeasure at finding that New York FBI agents were still openly pursuing the Clinton Foundation probe during the election season. Mr. McCabe said agents still had the authority to pursue the issue as long as they didn't use overt methods requiring Justice Department approvals.

The Justice Department official was "very pissed off," according to one person close to Mr. McCabe, and pressed him to explain why the FBI was still chasing a matter the department considered dormant. Others said the Justice Department was simply trying to make sure FBI agents were following longstanding policy not to make overt investigative moves that could be seen as trying to influence an election. Those rules discourage investigators from making any such moves before a primary or general election, and, at a minimum, checking with anticorruption prosecutors before doing so.

"Are you telling me that I need to shut down a validly predicated investigation?" Mr. McCabe asked, according to people familiar with the conversation. After a pause, the official replied, "Of course not," these people said.

For Mr. McCabe's defenders, the exchange showed how he was stuck between an FBI office eager to pour more resources into a case and Justice Department prosecutors who didn't think much of the case, one person said. Those people said that following the call, Mr. McCabe reiterated past instructions to FBI agents that they were to keep pursuing the work within the authority they had.

[xXRon_Paul_42016Xxx(weed)]

Relevant to the hypocritical bullshit around documents:

http://europe.newsweek.com/donald-trump-companies-destroyed-emails-documents-515120?rm=eu

The Trump strategy was simple: deny, impede and delay, while destroying documents the court had ordered them to hand over.

Finally, under subpoena, Trump appeared for a short deposition. When asked about the missing documents, he made a shocking admission: The Trumps had been destroying their corporate records for the previous six months and had no document-retention program. They had conducted no inspections to determine which files might have been sought in the discovery requests or might otherwise be related to the case. Instead, in order to "save space," Trump testified, officials with his company had been tossing documents into the shredder and garbage.

Shocking revelations. I'm sure you're all as surprised as I am.

Why do they never go after Trumps well established connections to the Mob? Honest question, its bugging me.

[Junkenstein]

Relevant to the hypocritical bullshit around documents:

http://europe.newsweek.com/donald-trump-companies-destroyed-emails-documents-515120?rm=eu

The Trump strategy was simple: deny, impede and delay, while destroying documents the court had ordered them to hand over.

Finally, under subpoena, Trump appeared for a short deposition. When asked about the missing documents, he made a shocking admission: The Trumps had been destroying their corporate records for the previous six months and had no document-retention program. They had conducted no inspections to determine which files might have been sought in the discovery requests or might otherwise be related to the case. Instead, in order to "save space," Trump testified, officials with his company had been tossing documents into the shredder and garbage.

Shocking revelations. I'm sure you're all as surprised as I am.

Why do they never go after Trumps well established connections to the Mob? Honest question, its bugging me.

Do you think trump's the only one with mob connections? Once you start unravelling that web then large parts of the political system in all kinds of places just turns to shit. I'm sure clinton's washed her own share of dodgy money. Hell, I'd bank on any major political figure having more than a link or two with unsavoury organisations.

Also, organised crime isn't as sexy as it used to be. A RICO prosecution used to make a career, now it's just another day at the office.

All that said, people have.

http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/05/donald-trump-2016-mob-organized-crime-213910

http://www.wsj.com/articles/donald-trump-dealt-with-a-series-of-people-who-had-mob-ties-1472736922

http://www.thewrap.com/donald-trump-mob-mafia-ties/

Even the daily heil ran a few articles.

[xXRon_Paul_42016Xxx(weed)]

Relevant to the hypocritical bullshit around documents:

http://europe.newsweek.com/donald-trump-companies-destroyed-emails-documents-515120?rm=eu

The Trump strategy was simple: deny, impede and delay, while destroying documents the court had ordered them to hand over.

Finally, under subpoena, Trump appeared for a short deposition. When asked about the missing documents, he made a shocking admission: The Trumps had been destroying their corporate records for the previous six months and had no document-retention program. They had conducted no inspections to determine which files might have been sought in the discovery requests or might otherwise be related to the case. Instead, in order to "save space," Trump testified, officials with his company had been tossing documents into the shredder and garbage.

Shocking revelations. I'm sure you're all as surprised as I am.

Why do they never go after Trumps well established connections to the Mob? Honest question, its bugging me.

Do you think trump's the only one with mob connections? Once you start unravelling that web then large parts of the political system in all kinds of places just turns to shit. I'm sure clinton's washed her own share of dodgy money. Hell, I'd bank on any major political figure having more than a link or two with unsavoury organisations.

Thats my read too, but I withheld it for fear of derailing the thread again with my "conspiracy theories." VERY interesting also how the Clinton camp has completely ignored the Epstein allegations against Trump, considering those are by far the strongest of all his sexual assault accusations. Trump has likewise ignored Clinton's trip to Loli-Island.

[Junkenstein]

I expect the problems are twofold.

Firstly, there's only 24 hours in a day. People have short memories so you have to attack the things they still remember from yesterday. This make historic shit difficult to attack on regardless of how good/bad/relevant it is. This applies equally to both candidates.

Secondly, there are somethings that even if you use them to attack your opponent (Like, say, child abuse) you still end up covered in shit yourself. Consider how well the careers of those who exposed Savile and co have done. I'd give anyone (bar Cain) a tenner if they could name one of the original journalists involved.


Mandatory Declaration of ignorance - I've not read up on the Epstein stuff as fully as I should have. If anyone has a decent link or two, it'd be appreciated.

[xXRon_Paul_42016Xxx(weed)]

https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/1507315-epstein-flight-manifests.html

Clinton rode on Epsteins "lolita express."

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/buster/bill-clinton/bill-clinton-and-jeffrey-epstein-908671

Epstein was in contact with Clinton.

http://nymag.com/nymetro/news/people/n_7912/

Trump thinsk epstein is "a great guy" even though "he likes his women young."

https://www.scribd.com/document/251520789/Jane-Doe-1-and-Jane-Doe-2-v-U-S

Prince Andrew and Dershowitz went to sex slave parties. Prince Andrew whos brother Charles was real buddy buddy with Savile.

http://www.snopes.com/2016/06/23/donald-trump-rape-lawsuit/ (Im so sorry for posting snopes)

Trump was named in an Epstein rape allegation that predates his campaign.

[Junkenstein]

I'll take a snopes link, they don't get enough credit for what they do and they've been at it a while. As a quick buckshot detector there's plenty of worse places to go.

Will mooch around and pass judgement accordingly.

[The Good Reverend Roger]

 

Snopes is the only credible link you posted.

[xXRon_Paul_42016Xxx(weed)]

Snopes is the only credible link you posted.

Source documents arent credible now?