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Calling it now: Dems snatch defeat from the jaws of victory in 2016.

Started by Doktor Howl, August 04, 2015, 12:19:20 AM

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Sano

Let's not forget that the Bush family did not support this man. The level of crazy was such that they weren't able to cope.

I mean, really, 2016. Impeachment in Brazil, Brexit, all that shit happening in South Korea, and now this. Am I missing something? I probably am. EDIT: Oh, how could I forget Duterte.

This does makes me rather worried about the elections here in 2018. There's a certain candidate which has been dismissed just as much as Trump because of his "unfavorable views" to say the least (he litterally said to a woman that she wouldn't deserve to be raped by him, that he'd rather his son be dead than gay, among other things). I guess I should start preparing for that.
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xXRon_Paul_42016Xxx(weed)

ACA overturned | This is a good thing

Welfare programs slashed | You mean more than Clinton ALREADY DID? http://www.genfkd.org/donald-trump-welfare-plan-tying-welfare-work Tax Cuts for businesses that hire people on welfare.

Social Security gutted | Clinton supported this http://www.ibtimes.com/political-capital/hillary-clinton-paid-speeches-wall-street-promoted-commission-pushed-social

LGBTQ rights rescinded | Assuming it even passes, it would be moving it to a state level. Guess what:
http://www.pewforum.org/2015/06/26/same-sex-marriage-state-by-state/ Every state would pass it.


Abortion/Women's health programs restricted

One, if not two, regressive Supreme Court picks

Carbon emissions/fracking deregulated | THIS IS LITERALLY WHAT CLINTON WANTED AND WAS ALREADY DOING
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/oct/10/clinton-blames-russians-anti-fracking-groups/
http://www.motherjones.com/environment/2014/09/hillary-clinton-fracking-shale-state-department-chevron

Paris Accord unheeded | You mean the nonbinding agreement that doesnt go into effect until 2020? How about you win the next election. And by "win" I dont mean eating whatever shit sandwich the DNC cooks up as an incumbent challenger.


Iran deal dropped | The Iran deal was a disaster. Enjoy a nuclear Middle East. Guess what, THE CLINTON CAMP AGREES WITH ME! https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/727


Refugee program halted | Oh no we arent taking in troves of immigrants from the same countries we are bombing to shit right now. What kind of monster would do such a thing?


Deportations escalated | This is bad because?

LMNO


xXRon_Paul_42016Xxx(weed)

Quote from: LMNO on November 09, 2016, 03:27:47 PM
cool meme, bro.

Keep that attitude up bud and well get two whole terms of America being Great Again. Maybe more!

xXRon_Paul_42016Xxx(weed)

Quote from: Sano on November 09, 2016, 02:45:57 PM
Let's not forget that the Bush family did not support this man. The level of crazy was such that they weren't able to cope.

"Neocons oppose him"
-SMART PEOPLEtm trying to convince people not to vote for someone.


Junkenstein

Enjoy the clean smog coming your way from all the clean coal you'll be mining.

News interviews hilarious so far. Hey Cain, I assume you're hitting the whiskey but when you sober up, how much extra sway do you think this will give the right wings in Europe? I have a horrible feeling it's more than I'm thinking.
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xXRon_Paul_42016Xxx(weed)

Quote from: Junkenstein on November 09, 2016, 03:39:33 PM
Enjoy the clean smog coming your way from all the clean coal you'll be mining.

News interviews hilarious so far. Hey Cain, I assume you're hitting the whiskey but when you sober up, how much extra sway do you think this will give the right wings in Europe? I have a horrible feeling it's more than I'm thinking.

Im thinking the right wing in Europe is gaining power for the same reason it is in America. Because it actually tries to understand people and relate to them and persuade them to its cause. While the left lectures them like misbehaving school children from a position of moral authority they barely had to being with, and that they have spent the past decade or so completely destroying while, again, lecturing people like school children for not recognizing it.


Junkenstein

Quote from: xXRon_Paul_42016Xxx(weed) on November 09, 2016, 03:43:44 PM
Quote from: Junkenstein on November 09, 2016, 03:39:33 PM
Enjoy the clean smog coming your way from all the clean coal you'll be mining.

News interviews hilarious so far. Hey Cain, I assume you're hitting the whiskey but when you sober up, how much extra sway do you think this will give the right wings in Europe? I have a horrible feeling it's more than I'm thinking.

Im thinking the right wing in Europe is gaining power for the same reason it is in America. Because it actually tries to understand people and relate to them and persuade them to its cause. While the left lectures them like misbehaving school children from a position of moral authority they barely had to being with, and that they have spent the past decade or so completely destroying while, again, lecturing people like school children for not recognizing it.

Pandering and playing to the crowd is not the same as understanding and relating.

Making a problem worse is not how you fix it.

ETA - Also, crazy lies do not become true even if you win a vote.
Nine naked Men just walking down the road will cause a heap of trouble for all concerned.

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Quote from: Junkenstein on November 09, 2016, 03:51:04 PM
Quote from: xXRon_Paul_42016Xxx(weed) on November 09, 2016, 03:43:44 PM
Quote from: Junkenstein on November 09, 2016, 03:39:33 PM
Enjoy the clean smog coming your way from all the clean coal you'll be mining.

News interviews hilarious so far. Hey Cain, I assume you're hitting the whiskey but when you sober up, how much extra sway do you think this will give the right wings in Europe? I have a horrible feeling it's more than I'm thinking.

Im thinking the right wing in Europe is gaining power for the same reason it is in America. Because it actually tries to understand people and relate to them and persuade them to its cause. While the left lectures them like misbehaving school children from a position of moral authority they barely had to being with, and that they have spent the past decade or so completely destroying while, again, lecturing people like school children for not recognizing it.

Pandering and playing to the crowd is not the same as understanding and relating.


Maybe not in principle but it gets the job done just the same.

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xXRon_Paul_42016Xxx(weed)

Quote from: Junkenstein on November 09, 2016, 03:51:04 PM
Quote from: xXRon_Paul_42016Xxx(weed) on November 09, 2016, 03:43:44 PM
Quote from: Junkenstein on November 09, 2016, 03:39:33 PM
Enjoy the clean smog coming your way from all the clean coal you'll be mining.

News interviews hilarious so far. Hey Cain, I assume you're hitting the whiskey but when you sober up, how much extra sway do you think this will give the right wings in Europe? I have a horrible feeling it's more than I'm thinking.

Im thinking the right wing in Europe is gaining power for the same reason it is in America. Because it actually tries to understand people and relate to them and persuade them to its cause. While the left lectures them like misbehaving school children from a position of moral authority they barely had to being with, and that they have spent the past decade or so completely destroying while, again, lecturing people like school children for not recognizing it.

Pandering and playing to the crowd is not the same as understanding and relating.

This is true. And Trump might learn this the hard way if he doesnt deliver. He was elected on a platform, and without it hes a subpar meme politician.

My point still stands. Most of you thought Trump COULDNT win, because you didnt understand why anyone would vote for him. Because you made no efforts to. You are either unwilling or uncapable of understanding how the average person in your country actually thinks and what matters to them.(pro tip: it isnt "theyre all dumb hick racists" but go ahead and keep repeating that. It did you SO WELL this time around.) If you do not fix this you will continue to lose.

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Making a problem worse is not how you fix it.

Which is why its going to be so fun to watch SMART PEOPLEtm doubling down on Trump being Hitler incarnate and further alienating themselves from the majority of this country who voted for him.

Faust

Quote from: xXRon_Paul_42016Xxx(weed) on November 09, 2016, 03:43:44 PM
Quote from: Junkenstein on November 09, 2016, 03:39:33 PM
Enjoy the clean smog coming your way from all the clean coal you'll be mining.

News interviews hilarious so far. Hey Cain, I assume you're hitting the whiskey but when you sober up, how much extra sway do you think this will give the right wings in Europe? I have a horrible feeling it's more than I'm thinking.

Im thinking the right wing in Europe is gaining power for the same reason it is in America. Because it actually tries to understand people and relate to them and persuade them to its cause. While the left lectures them like misbehaving school children from a position of moral authority they barely had to being with, and that they have spent the past decade or so completely destroying while, again, lecturing people like school children for not recognizing it.

Understand is a nice way of saying leverage them as a resource they can exploit.
The right in europe differs from country to country, in Greece its military heritage and people who's lives have been damaged by austerity. In France its a racism thing. In the UK its a return to an era that may never have existed the way they believe it did.

In the UK, the promises which have been made, were lies and I feel sorry for the people who voted for the brexit, because some of the promises that were made were good promises. I have no idea if trump could deliver any of his campaign promises, most of them, I wouldn't want him to, be they tangible things like repealing the medical bill, or prohibitively expensive ones like the wall.
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Quote from: xXRon_Paul_42016Xxx(weed) on November 09, 2016, 04:01:33 PM
Quote from: Junkenstein on November 09, 2016, 03:51:04 PM
Quote from: xXRon_Paul_42016Xxx(weed) on November 09, 2016, 03:43:44 PM
Quote from: Junkenstein on November 09, 2016, 03:39:33 PM
Enjoy the clean smog coming your way from all the clean coal you'll be mining.

News interviews hilarious so far. Hey Cain, I assume you're hitting the whiskey but when you sober up, how much extra sway do you think this will give the right wings in Europe? I have a horrible feeling it's more than I'm thinking.

Im thinking the right wing in Europe is gaining power for the same reason it is in America. Because it actually tries to understand people and relate to them and persuade them to its cause. While the left lectures them like misbehaving school children from a position of moral authority they barely had to being with, and that they have spent the past decade or so completely destroying while, again, lecturing people like school children for not recognizing it.

Pandering and playing to the crowd is not the same as understanding and relating.

This is true. And Trump might learn this the hard way if he doesnt deliver. He was elected on a platform, and without it hes a subpar meme politician.

My point still stands. Most of you thought Trump COULDNT win, because you didnt understand why anyone would vote for him. Because you made no efforts to. You are either unwilling or uncapable of understanding how the average person in your country actually thinks and what matters to them.(pro tip: it isnt "theyre all dumb hick racists" but go ahead and keep repeating that. It did you SO WELL this time around.) If you do not fix this you will continue to lose.

What the fuck is it then? Other than the addition of "sexist" "homophobic" "superstitious/religious" and "worthless human garbage" to the list of descriptors?

EDIT:
Oh wait, I know, it's because of that stupid conspiracy theory about Hillary Clinton killing Vince Foster

(caring about the email thing falls under the "dumb hick" umbrella)
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Quote from: xXRon_Paul_42016Xxx(weed) on November 09, 2016, 04:01:33 PM
Quote from: Junkenstein on November 09, 2016, 03:51:04 PM
Quote from: xXRon_Paul_42016Xxx(weed) on November 09, 2016, 03:43:44 PM
Quote from: Junkenstein on November 09, 2016, 03:39:33 PM
Enjoy the clean smog coming your way from all the clean coal you'll be mining.

News interviews hilarious so far. Hey Cain, I assume you're hitting the whiskey but when you sober up, how much extra sway do you think this will give the right wings in Europe? I have a horrible feeling it's more than I'm thinking.

Im thinking the right wing in Europe is gaining power for the same reason it is in America. Because it actually tries to understand people and relate to them and persuade them to its cause. While the left lectures them like misbehaving school children from a position of moral authority they barely had to being with, and that they have spent the past decade or so completely destroying while, again, lecturing people like school children for not recognizing it.

Pandering and playing to the crowd is not the same as understanding and relating.

This is true. And Trump might learn this the hard way if he doesnt deliver. He was elected on a platform, and without it hes a subpar meme politician.

My point still stands. Most of you thought Trump COULDNT win, because you didnt understand why anyone would vote for him. Because you made no efforts to. You are either unwilling or uncapable of understanding how the average person in your country actually thinks and what matters to them.(pro tip: it isnt "theyre all dumb hick racists" but go ahead and keep repeating that. It did you SO WELL this time around.) If you do not fix this you will continue to lose.

Quote
Making a problem worse is not how you fix it.

Which is why its going to be so fun to watch SMART PEOPLEtm doubling down on Trump being Hitler incarnate and further alienating themselves from the majority of this country who voted for him.

You know what, you're right. The left needs to rise above the equivalent of the birthers, and the ones who thought Obama was literally the devil.
Trump isn't hitler, he's a bad candidate, Clinton was a bad candidate too, but in my eyes preferable to Trump, but that's in the past.
Now we have one of the two bad candidates as president. So far this one has demonstrated that he is a misogynist, is incapable of coherent argument or taking accountability for what he says.
If he flip flopped so much during the run up to the election, it will be easy to define the things he does wrong as president, . In likelyhood there will be a lot of that. We must now look at this toad objectively, also look at what he gets right because ignoring that could turn the democrats into the tea party.
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What do you guys think the future of the Democratic party is going to be? I imagine there's a serious identity crisis happening for them at the moment.

And probably a lot of people saying under their breath... "What would have happened if we'd nominated Sanders?"
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Quote from: Doktor Howl on August 04, 2015, 05:44:14 AM
Quote from: Cain on August 04, 2015, 05:23:56 AM
Trump is, however, the government America deserves.  A truly postmodern fascist in a clown suit, like Berlusconi without any redeeming qualities as many coke-filled parties with hookers.

Hillary Clinton will most likely be the next president, if you look at the numbers.

I have a horrible feeling of dread, though.

Went back over OP to re-read and found this gem. Given the EXACT prediction in the thread title and the feeling Howl had I'd say this is proof that the man from Tucson is in fact the most legit Holy Man since Ezekiel!!  :eek:

Somebody shout out the AMEN!!

Who here can deny the Holyness ITT? Only those already pledged to the lord of blindness!

:box: <---HOW LOUD DOES THAT TRUMP GOTTA BE TO GET FOLK WOKE!?

DANCE IN THE HOLY SPIRIT, AS THE HOLY MAN DO!!
:sexybeast: ....

WELL OK MAYBE A little LESS HOLY FOR THE KIDS IN THE AUDIENCE! PLEASE!

:banana: :banana: :banana: .... WOOOHOOOO! YAH GOT THAT SPIRIT NOW YALLS!

:buttsecks:... HEY NOW..!
:bsex: .... WOAH! THEY PUTIN IN THE OVERTIME ON THEY SHIT HUH??

:zombie:  :zombie:   :zombie: WE GONNA GET LIT LIKE A BABYLON BARBECUE UP IN HERE!! AIN'T LIKE A LITTLE FIRE GONNASTOPTHIS!!

:angrymob: :angrymob: HOLY JUST BE GETTING WARMED UP! BRING YOUR MOTHERFUCKING FRIENDS!!
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