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Calling it now: Dems snatch defeat from the jaws of victory in 2016.

Started by Doktor Howl, August 04, 2015, 12:19:20 AM

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Junkenstein

Quote from: Xaz on November 09, 2016, 04:38:21 PM
What do you guys think the future of the Democratic party is going to be? I imagine there's a serious identity crisis happening for them at the moment.

And probably a lot of people saying under their breath... "What would have happened if we'd nominated Sanders?"

Immediate future:wailing and gnashing of teeth.
Mid future: infighting, factions, "moves to the centre" (ie adoption and re-branding of republicans policies.
Long term future:el chapo 2020.

El chapo- an actual billionaire who built successful businesses worldwide without being sued once.

Nine naked Men just walking down the road will cause a heap of trouble for all concerned.

The Wizard Joseph

Quote from: Junkenstein on November 09, 2016, 04:50:46 PM
Quote from: Xaz on November 09, 2016, 04:38:21 PM
What do you guys think the future of the Democratic party is going to be? I imagine there's a serious identity crisis happening for them at the moment.

And probably a lot of people saying under their breath... "What would have happened if we'd nominated Sanders?"

Immediate future:wailing and gnashing of teeth.
Mid future: infighting, factions, "moves to the centre" (ie adoption and re-branding of republicans policies.
Long term future:el chapo 2020.

El chapo- an actual billionaire who built successful businesses worldwide without being sued once.

I think that should be Saint El Chapo. Got a nice ring to it and an honest crook beats a Nazi every time.
You can't get out backward.  You have to go forward to go back.. better press on! - Willie Wonka, PBUH

Life can be seen as a game with no reset button, no extra lives, and if the power goes out there is no restarting.  If that's all you see life as you are not long for this world, and never will get it.

"Ayn Rand never swung a hammer in her life and had serious dominance issues" - The Fountainhead

"World domination is such an ugly phrase. I prefer to call it world optimisation."
- Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality :lulz:

"You program the controller to do the thing, only it doesn't do the thing.  It does something else entirely, or nothing at all.  It's like voting."
- Billy, Aug 21st, 2019

"It's not even chaos anymore. It's BANAL."
- Doktor Hamish Howl

Prelate Diogenes Shandor

Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on November 09, 2016, 05:40:11 PM
Quote from: Junkenstein on November 09, 2016, 04:50:46 PM
Quote from: Xaz on November 09, 2016, 04:38:21 PM
What do you guys think the future of the Democratic party is going to be? I imagine there's a serious identity crisis happening for them at the moment.

And probably a lot of people saying under their breath... "What would have happened if we'd nominated Sanders?"

Immediate future:wailing and gnashing of teeth.
Mid future: infighting, factions, "moves to the centre" (ie adoption and re-branding of republicans policies.
Long term future:el chapo 2020.

El chapo- an actual billionaire who built successful businesses worldwide without being sued once.

I think that should be Saint El Chapo. Got a nice ring to it and an honest crook beats a Nazi every time.

I'd vote for him.
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He who fights with monsters must take care lest he thereby become a monster -Nietzsche


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The Wizard Joseph

Quote from: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on November 09, 2016, 05:42:18 PM
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on November 09, 2016, 05:40:11 PM
Quote from: Junkenstein on November 09, 2016, 04:50:46 PM
Quote from: Xaz on November 09, 2016, 04:38:21 PM
What do you guys think the future of the Democratic party is going to be? I imagine there's a serious identity crisis happening for them at the moment.

And probably a lot of people saying under their breath... "What would have happened if we'd nominated Sanders?"

Immediate future:wailing and gnashing of teeth.
Mid future: infighting, factions, "moves to the centre" (ie adoption and re-branding of republicans policies.
Long term future:el chapo 2020.

El chapo- an actual billionaire who built successful businesses worldwide without being sued once.

I think that should be Saint El Chapo. Got a nice ring to it and an honest crook beats a Nazi every time.

I'd vote for him.
I'd pay people to vote for him at this point. Not a lot though because the election would also be rigged in his favor.
You can't get out backward.  You have to go forward to go back.. better press on! - Willie Wonka, PBUH

Life can be seen as a game with no reset button, no extra lives, and if the power goes out there is no restarting.  If that's all you see life as you are not long for this world, and never will get it.

"Ayn Rand never swung a hammer in her life and had serious dominance issues" - The Fountainhead

"World domination is such an ugly phrase. I prefer to call it world optimisation."
- Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality :lulz:

"You program the controller to do the thing, only it doesn't do the thing.  It does something else entirely, or nothing at all.  It's like voting."
- Billy, Aug 21st, 2019

"It's not even chaos anymore. It's BANAL."
- Doktor Hamish Howl

The Good Reverend Roger

Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on November 09, 2016, 04:45:35 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on August 04, 2015, 05:44:14 AM
Quote from: Cain on August 04, 2015, 05:23:56 AM
Trump is, however, the government America deserves.  A truly postmodern fascist in a clown suit, like Berlusconi without any redeeming qualities as many coke-filled parties with hookers.

Hillary Clinton will most likely be the next president, if you look at the numbers.

I have a horrible feeling of dread, though.

Went back over OP to re-read and found this gem. Given the EXACT prediction in the thread title and the feeling Howl had I'd say this is proof that the man from Tucson is in fact the most legit Holy Man since Ezekiel!!  :eek:

Somebody shout out the AMEN!!

Who here can deny the Holyness ITT? Only those already pledged to the lord of blindness!

:box: <---HOW LOUD DOES THAT TRUMP GOTTA BE TO GET FOLK WOKE!?

DANCE IN THE HOLY SPIRIT, AS THE HOLY MAN DO!!
:sexybeast: ....

WELL OK MAYBE A little LESS HOLY FOR THE KIDS IN THE AUDIENCE! PLEASE!

:banana: :banana: :banana: .... WOOOHOOOO! YAH GOT THAT SPIRIT NOW YALLS!

:buttsecks:... HEY NOW..!
:bsex: .... WOAH! THEY PUTIN IN THE OVERTIME ON THEY SHIT HUH??

:zombie:  :zombie:   :zombie: WE GONNA GET LIT LIKE A BABYLON BARBECUE UP IN HERE!! AIN'T LIKE A LITTLE FIRE GONNASTOPTHIS!!

:angrymob: :angrymob: HOLY JUST BE GETTING WARMED UP! BRING YOUR MOTHERFUCKING FRIENDS!!

Yeah, but we all know what happens to Holy Men™ and prophets.   :lulz:
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

LMNO

Forgot to add "institutes national stop-and-frisk guidelines" to my list.

minuspace

I can't get "you can't always get what you want" out of my mind.

LMNO

Pretty sure a sizeable population of the US ain't gonna get what they need, either.

Junkenstein

Heh. There's a silver lining kids.

http://uk.businessinsider.com/marijuana-states-legalized-weed-2016-11?r=US&IR=T

Hahaha!

QuoteOn November 8, another four states voted in favor of outright marijuana legalization: California, Nevada, Maine, and Massachusetts all voted in favor of legalized use, sale, and consumption of recreational marijuana.

AHAHAHAHA!

Someone let RHWN know that he's a monumental failure.
Nine naked Men just walking down the road will cause a heap of trouble for all concerned.

The Good Reverend Roger

Quote from: Junkenstein on November 09, 2016, 09:20:09 PM

AHAHAHAHA!

Someone let RHWN know that he's a monumental failure.

I would, but he blocked me from his fart-huffing google group.
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

Freeky

 :lulz: Maine.  I wish we could see RWHN's meltdown, convinced as he was that he was doing Good and Right and everything he was involved with was For the Children.


I kind of skipped the last couple pages, so if this was mentioned my bad, but on the plus side, our minimum wage is supposed to go up to 15.00 by 2020.  I was surprised about that.


Prelate Diogenes Shandor

#1437
Quote from: LuciferX on November 09, 2016, 08:07:34 PM
I can't get "you can't always get what you want" out of my mind.

Falling Away From Me and Paint It Black for me

Quote from: Faust on November 09, 2016, 04:19:34 PM
Quote from: xXRon_Paul_42016Xxx(weed) on November 09, 2016, 04:01:33 PM
Quote from: Junkenstein on November 09, 2016, 03:51:04 PM
Quote from: xXRon_Paul_42016Xxx(weed) on November 09, 2016, 03:43:44 PM
Quote from: Junkenstein on November 09, 2016, 03:39:33 PM
Enjoy the clean smog coming your way from all the clean coal you'll be mining.

News interviews hilarious so far. Hey Cain, I assume you're hitting the whiskey but when you sober up, how much extra sway do you think this will give the right wings in Europe? I have a horrible feeling it's more than I'm thinking.

Im thinking the right wing in Europe is gaining power for the same reason it is in America. Because it actually tries to understand people and relate to them and persuade them to its cause. While the left lectures them like misbehaving school children from a position of moral authority they barely had to being with, and that they have spent the past decade or so completely destroying while, again, lecturing people like school children for not recognizing it.

Pandering and playing to the crowd is not the same as understanding and relating.

This is true. And Trump might learn this the hard way if he doesnt deliver. He was elected on a platform, and without it hes a subpar meme politician.

My point still stands. Most of you thought Trump COULDNT win, because you didnt understand why anyone would vote for him. Because you made no efforts to. You are either unwilling or uncapable of understanding how the average person in your country actually thinks and what matters to them.(pro tip: it isnt "theyre all dumb hick racists" but go ahead and keep repeating that. It did you SO WELL this time around.) If you do not fix this you will continue to lose.

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Making a problem worse is not how you fix it.

Which is why its going to be so fun to watch SMART PEOPLEtm doubling down on Trump being Hitler incarnate and further alienating themselves from the majority of this country who voted for him.

You know what, you're right. The left needs to rise above the equivalent of the birthers, and the ones who thought Obama was literally the devil.
Trump isn't hitler, he's a bad candidate, Clinton was a bad candidate too, but in my eyes preferable to Trump, but that's in the past.
Now we have one of the two bad candidates as president. So far this one has demonstrated that he is a misogynist, is incapable of coherent argument or taking accountability for what he says.
If he flip flopped so much during the run up to the election, it will be easy to define the things he does wrong as president, . In likelyhood there will be a lot of that. We must now look at this toad objectively, also look at what he gets right because ignoring that could turn the democrats into the tea party.

Plus, as my Ma pointed out, Regan was also completely unqualified (and literally demented) and the country survived him.
Praise NHGH! For the tribulation of all sentient beings.


a plague on both your houses -Mercutio


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zrTGgpWmdZQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rVWd7nPjJH8


It is an unfortunate fact that every man who seeks to disseminate knowledge must contend not only against ignorance itself, but against false instruction as well. No sooner do we deem ourselves free from a particularly gross superstition, than we are confronted by some enemy to learning who would plunge us back into the darkness -H.P.Lovecraft


He who fights with monsters must take care lest he thereby become a monster -Nietzsche


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SHhrZgojY1Q


You are a fluke of the universe, and whether you can hear it of not the universe is laughing behind your back -Deteriorata


Don't use the email address in my profile, I lost the password years ago


Prelate Diogenes Shandor

Quote from: Prelate Diogenes Shandor on November 09, 2016, 04:13:29 PM
Quote from: xXRon_Paul_42016Xxx(weed) on November 09, 2016, 04:01:33 PM
Quote from: Junkenstein on November 09, 2016, 03:51:04 PM
Quote from: xXRon_Paul_42016Xxx(weed) on November 09, 2016, 03:43:44 PM
Quote from: Junkenstein on November 09, 2016, 03:39:33 PM
Enjoy the clean smog coming your way from all the clean coal you'll be mining.

News interviews hilarious so far. Hey Cain, I assume you're hitting the whiskey but when you sober up, how much extra sway do you think this will give the right wings in Europe? I have a horrible feeling it's more than I'm thinking.

Im thinking the right wing in Europe is gaining power for the same reason it is in America. Because it actually tries to understand people and relate to them and persuade them to its cause. While the left lectures them like misbehaving school children from a position of moral authority they barely had to being with, and that they have spent the past decade or so completely destroying while, again, lecturing people like school children for not recognizing it.

Pandering and playing to the crowd is not the same as understanding and relating.

This is true. And Trump might learn this the hard way if he doesnt deliver. He was elected on a platform, and without it hes a subpar meme politician.

My point still stands. Most of you thought Trump COULDNT win, because you didnt understand why anyone would vote for him. Because you made no efforts to. You are either unwilling or uncapable of understanding how the average person in your country actually thinks and what matters to them.(pro tip: it isnt "theyre all dumb hick racists" but go ahead and keep repeating that. It did you SO WELL this time around.) If you do not fix this you will continue to lose.

What the fuck is it then? Other than the addition of "sexist" "homophobic" "superstitious/religious" and "worthless human garbage" to the list of descriptors?

EDIT:
Oh wait, I know, it's because of that stupid conspiracy theory about Hillary Clinton killing Vince Foster

(caring about the email thing falls under the "dumb hick" umbrella)

I left out diehard Bernie bros voting for Trump to spite Clinton, people who are just angry and/or want to watch the world burn, people who are only familiar with Trump as a reality TV guy and not a guy who bankrupted several businesses asn is as corrupt as Hillary, misogynists voting against Clinton because she's a woman, and people who simultaneously gullible and don't think America is great and believe a failed businessman can remedy this, religious groups that consider only the issue of abortion without considering that shitting all over our safety nets for the less fortunate also goes against christian values, and people who just think it would be funny
Praise NHGH! For the tribulation of all sentient beings.


a plague on both your houses -Mercutio


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zrTGgpWmdZQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rVWd7nPjJH8


It is an unfortunate fact that every man who seeks to disseminate knowledge must contend not only against ignorance itself, but against false instruction as well. No sooner do we deem ourselves free from a particularly gross superstition, than we are confronted by some enemy to learning who would plunge us back into the darkness -H.P.Lovecraft


He who fights with monsters must take care lest he thereby become a monster -Nietzsche


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SHhrZgojY1Q


You are a fluke of the universe, and whether you can hear it of not the universe is laughing behind your back -Deteriorata


Don't use the email address in my profile, I lost the password years ago