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Started by EK WAFFLR, August 10, 2015, 03:37:20 PM

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Payne

Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on September 26, 2015, 06:26:19 PM
Quote from: Emo Howard on September 26, 2015, 04:06:57 PM
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on September 26, 2015, 08:51:50 AM


I did mean greatest in the sense of best and most desirable. It's a weakness, but NOT a flaw. Every design or form has weaknesses, things that can break it. Compassion is one of ours, but it's critical to the survival of our species and expression of our nature.




Edit because I apparently jacked up the quote box code.

So compassion is Humanity's crumple zone? I can live with that analogy.

I don't know if I'd put it that way, really. Compassion is kind of the thing that makes us work as a species; the ability to connect with and care for other people is inherently crucial to everything we consider uniquely human achievements. Only a social species can develop culture and technology, and the biological, developmental condition on which sociability is dependent is compassion.

In my experience, compassion is also the only thing that makes us work as individuals too. Whatever form that may take.

TWJ: It's not a weakness (even when making the distinction of weakness from flaw), it is in the make up of the canvas on which we paint the parts of our inner lives that we feel raise us from 'mere animals'. It's part of what makes us 'other'. It's one of the reasons why even the most evil of people don't believe they're evil.

The Good Reverend Roger

So, just got home from the hospital, after she collapsed last night.

They've poked and prodded her, scanned her brain, all that good stuff.  No results so far.

"Go home until Monday, try not to worry."
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

Mesozoic Mister Nigel

Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on September 26, 2015, 09:40:50 PM
So, just got home from the hospital, after she collapsed last night.

They've poked and prodded her, scanned her brain, all that good stuff.  No results so far.

"Go home until Monday, try not to worry."

Wait, what? Who collapsed? Is it your wife?
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The Wizard Joseph

Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on September 26, 2015, 09:40:50 PM
So, just got home from the hospital, after she collapsed last night.

They've poked and prodded her, scanned her brain, all that good stuff.  No results so far.

"Go home until Monday, try not to worry."

WTF? I'm so sorry to hear sir.
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The Wizard Joseph

Quote from: Payne on September 26, 2015, 08:40:02 PM
Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on September 26, 2015, 06:26:19 PM
Quote from: Emo Howard on September 26, 2015, 04:06:57 PM
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on September 26, 2015, 08:51:50 AM


I did mean greatest in the sense of best and most desirable. It's a weakness, but NOT a flaw. Every design or form has weaknesses, things that can break it. Compassion is one of ours, but it's critical to the survival of our species and expression of our nature.




Edit because I apparently jacked up the quote box code.

So compassion is Humanity's crumple zone? I can live with that analogy.

I don't know if I'd put it that way, really. Compassion is kind of the thing that makes us work as a species; the ability to connect with and care for other people is inherently crucial to everything we consider uniquely human achievements. Only a social species can develop culture and technology, and the biological, developmental condition on which sociability is dependent is compassion.

In my experience, compassion is also the only thing that makes us work as individuals too. Whatever form that may take.

TWJ: It's not a weakness (even when making the distinction of weakness from flaw), it is in the make up of the canvas on which we paint the parts of our inner lives that we feel raise us from 'mere animals'. It's part of what makes us 'other'. It's one of the reasons why even the most evil of people don't believe they're evil.

I'll happily admit my perspective inaccurate. Kinda needed to hear much of this. Thanks guys.
You can't get out backward.  You have to go forward to go back.. better press on! - Willie Wonka, PBUH

Life can be seen as a game with no reset button, no extra lives, and if the power goes out there is no restarting.  If that's all you see life as you are not long for this world, and never will get it.

"Ayn Rand never swung a hammer in her life and had serious dominance issues" - The Fountainhead

"World domination is such an ugly phrase. I prefer to call it world optimisation."
- Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality :lulz:

"You program the controller to do the thing, only it doesn't do the thing.  It does something else entirely, or nothing at all.  It's like voting."
- Billy, Aug 21st, 2019

"It's not even chaos anymore. It's BANAL."
- Doktor Hamish Howl

Nast

I'm having one of those days when being around other human beings is just too offensive to the senses.

Good thing I'm friends with a lot of cool ferns.
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Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on September 26, 2015, 10:57:37 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on September 26, 2015, 09:40:50 PM
So, just got home from the hospital, after she collapsed last night.

They've poked and prodded her, scanned her brain, all that good stuff.  No results so far.

"Go home until Monday, try not to worry."

Wait, what? Who collapsed? Is it your wife?
i was confused too. I hope they're alright, tho.
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The Good Reverend Roger

Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on September 26, 2015, 10:57:37 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on September 26, 2015, 09:40:50 PM
So, just got home from the hospital, after she collapsed last night.

They've poked and prodded her, scanned her brain, all that good stuff.  No results so far.

"Go home until Monday, try not to worry."

Wait, what? Who collapsed? Is it your wife?

Yes, sorry, should have been more clear.
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

Roly Poly Oly-Garch

Back to the fecal matter in the pool

The Good Reverend Roger

Quote from: NoLeDeMiel on September 27, 2015, 01:02:06 AM
Aw, Roger. I'm sorry, man.

Thanks.  So far, no further nastiness, but we still don't know what was wrong, except that it was NOT blood sugar.  She had just tested her sugar levels a few minutes prior, and had come up at 105, well within the normal range.

Which isn't very reassuring.
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

minuspace

Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on September 26, 2015, 06:26:19 PM
Quote from: Emo Howard on September 26, 2015, 04:06:57 PM
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on September 26, 2015, 08:51:50 AM


I did mean greatest in the sense of best and most desirable. It's a weakness, but NOT a flaw. Every design or form has weaknesses, things that can break it. Compassion is one of ours, but it's critical to the survival of our species and expression of our nature.




Edit because I apparently jacked up the quote box code.

So compassion is Humanity's crumple zone? I can live with that analogy.

I don't know if I'd put it that way, really. Compassion is kind of the thing that makes us work as a species; the ability to connect with and care for other people is inherently crucial to everything we consider uniquely human achievements. Only a social species can develop culture and technology, and the biological, developmental condition on which sociability is dependent is compassion.

Compassion turns the last into first among equals.

Meunster

Shit Roger.  That sounds scarry. I'm sorry that happened.
Poe's law ;)

minuspace

Mr. Penrose, please accept our wishes for a quick recovery of your wife.  May the currents change to rising lift beneath your wings right now!

The Good Reverend Roger

Quote from: LuciferX on September 27, 2015, 07:52:03 AM
Mr. Penrose, please accept our wishes for a quick recovery of your wife.  May the currents change to rising lift beneath your wings right now!

Thanks.  But why are you using unlisted personal information in your post?
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

minuspace

Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on September 27, 2015, 07:57:13 AM
Quote from: LuciferX on September 27, 2015, 07:52:03 AM
Mr. Penrose, please accept our wishes for a quick recovery of your wife.  May the currents change to rising lift beneath your wings right now!

Thanks.  But why are you using unlisted personal information in your post?

To remnd myself of the promotional sale on smashwords available through September, of course.