Australia: The World H.Q of Order?

[The Good Reverend Roger]

For an Australian, it sure is funny how your IP shows you to be in New York

Its called VPN because I am in the "Go Dark" campaign you see? The mass surveillance laws are psychological rape: https://www.getup.org.au/campaigns/digital-freedom-and-privacy/go-dark-against-data-retention/go-dark-against-data-retention

Trolllolololo



Well played, you had me going for a while there.

Yeah, show's over.  Poptard achieved.

[Meunster]

For an Australian, it sure is funny how your IP shows you to be in New York

Its called VPN because I am in the "Go Dark" campaign you see? The mass surveillance laws are psychological rape: https://www.getup.org.au/campaigns/digital-freedom-and-privacy/go-dark-against-data-retention/go-dark-against-data-retention

Trolllolololo



Well played, you had me going for a while there.

Stop saying he's a troll.

I haven't ate all his bait yet.

Stop chewing and just gobble it down then. Christ Poptart, you used to be so much faster.

What if he says more stupid shit?

Who will be there to call him autistic once you label him a troll and ignore him?

[ChaosAdvocate]

So, if I understand this correctly, Chaos Advocate's one thing is that he's planning a hunger strike for gun rights? Can you elaborate on your methods? You already covered your reasons.

In the near future me and all pro-gun people will come together and agree to refuse to eat for a certain amount of time in some time. Then announce that a hunger strike is being done to protest against draconian gun control, to demand that it be abolished or loosened.

Are you coordinating with an existing group, or recruiting on your lonesome?

Yes, libertarian organizations and also anybody who hates gun control.

Okay, I'm a little confused by this answer. Is there a specific libertarian group or groups that you've started talking with about this? Or are you just assuming all these people will materialize when you announce your awesome idea because of how cool and smart you are?

If I told you how do I know you will not use it against me/us or do something to bring harm? I can tell you though that both Libertarian-Capitalists and the Libertarian/Democratic-Left(socialists) are in favor. They are nearly indistinguishable aside from different groups and economic beliefs. There is one new political party which has already been registered a few months ago that closely resembles the French Revolution ideology.

[ChaosAdvocate]

And you would sure as shit have to be in charge, because what you are talking about is illegal as fuck. As it should be, as it involves genetic experiments on human beings.

You have got to be trolling, nobody is actually this stupid.

I meant THEORETICALLY. And chances are that its highly likely the government is already doing it without you knowing.

[ChaosAdvocate]

Infact the U.S government may already be doing some experiments without public knowledge(A very unusual creature that looked like a mixture of different animal traits once washed up on a shore from an island where they do experiments).

Skull island?

Long island*. This specimen here looks to be a combination of human genes and another animal or something else entirely, the shore was also close to an island used for biological experiments by the U.S government: http://weirdthings.com/2011/02/creature-washes-up-on-long-island/

https://coolaggregator.wordpress.com/2008/07/30/mystery-creature-washes-up-on-long-island/

http://weekinweird.com/2015/05/21/camp-hero-americas-weirdest-state-park-is-haunted-by-strange-creatures-and-psychic-spy-experiments/

Animal testing center confirmed responsible: http://askville.amazon.com/Plum-Island-Animal-Center-responsible-strange-creature-washed-ashore/AnswerViewer.do?requestId=13733904

[ChaosAdvocate]

For an Australian, it sure is funny how your IP shows you to be in New York

Its called VPN because I am in the "Go Dark" campaign you see? The mass surveillance laws are psychological rape: https://www.getup.org.au/campaigns/digital-freedom-and-privacy/go-dark-against-data-retention/go-dark-against-data-retention

We have a rule about proxy IPs.

>he doesn't have two computers,  one for illegal shit
One for games and internet

I don't need any government in my life that treats all people as criminals, fuck the corporate government, their corporate puppet-masters and all authority figures(bosses). Look at how people in France deal with them, if only we were like them. I do not need their "protection" and I do not want them to do ANYTHING for me, I demand the right to defend myself. It is not a democracy:

http://www.businessinsider.com/afp-eurotunnel-services-suspended-after-french-protests-firm-2015-6?IR=T

http://www.forbes.com/sites/matthewfeeney2/2015/06/30/uber-execs-arrested-in-france-after-luddite-protests/

Fact is I do NOT consent and do not want to consent. It is illegally invading my right to privacy and democratic rights. It is STALKING and illegal invasion of my privacy. I do not consent to their data retention. I will resist Fascism with all my might. The fact I am not carrying out commerce with this computer should also give me the right to not consent to illegal stalking and spying on me. The government could also be a corporation in disguise as it is registered as one in Washington D.C, hence it does not obey the democracy + common law(eg. committing thuggery and kidnap: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZsoUArgpo9s) and does not act like one. Its also not illegal to use a proxy.

http://www.peoplesmandate.iinet.net.au/Government_as_Foreign_corporation.html

[Meunster]

For an Australian, it sure is funny how your IP shows you to be in New York

Its called VPN because I am in the "Go Dark" campaign you see? The mass surveillance laws are psychological rape: https://www.getup.org.au/campaigns/digital-freedom-and-privacy/go-dark-against-data-retention/go-dark-against-data-retention

We have a rule about proxy IPs.

>he doesn't have two computers,  one for illegal shit
One for games and internet

I don't need any government in my life that treats all people as criminals, fuck the corporate government, their corporate puppet-masters and all authority figures(bosses). Look at how people in France deal with them, if only we were like them. I do not need their "protection" and I do not want them to do ANYTHING for me, I demand the right to defend myself. It is not a democracy:

http://www.businessinsider.com/afp-eurotunnel-services-suspended-after-french-protests-firm-2015-6?IR=T

http://www.forbes.com/sites/matthewfeeney2/2015/06/30/uber-execs-arrested-in-france-after-luddite-protests/

Fact is I do NOT consent and do not want to consent. It is illegally invading my right to privacy and democratic rights. It is STALKING and illegal invasion of my privacy. I do not consent to their data retention. I will resist Fascism with all my might. The fact I am not carrying out commerce with this computer should also give me the right to not consent to illegal stalking and spying on me. The government could also be a corporation in disguise as it is registered as one in Washington D.C, hence it does not obey the democracy + common law(eg. committing thuggery and kidnap: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZsoUArgpo9s) and does not act like one. Its also not illegal to use a proxy.

http://www.peoplesmandate.iinet.net.au/Government_as_Foreign_corporation.html

>hates the government
>isn't a criminal

Holy fuck, atleast when I say "fuck the police " I have some dignity.
You the type of nigga who buys an anarchy cap at hottopic and brags about being anti big a.

[Q. G. Pennyworth]

So, if I understand this correctly, Chaos Advocate's one thing is that he's planning a hunger strike for gun rights? Can you elaborate on your methods? You already covered your reasons.

In the near future me and all pro-gun people will come together and agree to refuse to eat for a certain amount of time in some time. Then announce that a hunger strike is being done to protest against draconian gun control, to demand that it be abolished or loosened.

Are you coordinating with an existing group, or recruiting on your lonesome?

Yes, libertarian organizations and also anybody who hates gun control.

Okay, I'm a little confused by this answer. Is there a specific libertarian group or groups that you've started talking with about this? Or are you just assuming all these people will materialize when you announce your awesome idea because of how cool and smart you are?

If I told you how do I know you will not use it against me/us or do something to bring harm? I can tell you though that both Libertarian-Capitalists and the Libertarian/Democratic-Left(socialists) are in favor. They are nearly indistinguishable aside from different groups and economic beliefs. There is one new political party which has already been registered a few months ago that closely resembles the French Revolution ideology.

I am interested in activism tactics regardless of how fucking stupid the cause is. Obviously if there's something where posting it online will spoil the fun then don't, but this seems pretty straightforward and not like the government can a) arrest you for planning it or b) stop you from doing it with advanced notice.

You have two large(?) political groups that are in favor of gun rights, and a third recently established political party that thinks the reign of terror is a pretty good idea? Have you talked with leadership or influential members of any of these parties about the feasibility of a hunger strike as part of your campaign, and what were their responses? What I'm trying to get at with these questions is do you have a plan or just an idea?

[ChaosAdvocate]

For an Australian, it sure is funny how your IP shows you to be in New York

Its called VPN because I am in the "Go Dark" campaign you see? The mass surveillance laws are psychological rape: https://www.getup.org.au/campaigns/digital-freedom-and-privacy/go-dark-against-data-retention/go-dark-against-data-retention

We have a rule about proxy IPs.

>he doesn't have two computers,  one for illegal shit
One for games and internet

I don't need any government in my life that treats all people as criminals, fuck the corporate government, their corporate puppet-masters and all authority figures(bosses). Look at how people in France deal with them, if only we were like them. I do not need their "protection" and I do not want them to do ANYTHING for me, I demand the right to defend myself. It is not a democracy:

http://www.businessinsider.com/afp-eurotunnel-services-suspended-after-french-protests-firm-2015-6?IR=T

http://www.forbes.com/sites/matthewfeeney2/2015/06/30/uber-execs-arrested-in-france-after-luddite-protests/

Fact is I do NOT consent and do not want to consent. It is illegally invading my right to privacy and democratic rights. It is STALKING and illegal invasion of my privacy. I do not consent to their data retention. I will resist Fascism with all my might. The fact I am not carrying out commerce with this computer should also give me the right to not consent to illegal stalking and spying on me. The government could also be a corporation in disguise as it is registered as one in Washington D.C, hence it does not obey the democracy + common law(eg. committing thuggery and kidnap: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZsoUArgpo9s) and does not act like one. Its also not illegal to use a proxy.

http://www.peoplesmandate.iinet.net.au/Government_as_Foreign_corporation.html

>hates the government
>isn't a criminal

Holy fuck, atleast when I say "fuck the police " I have some dignity.
You the type of nigga who buys an anarchy cap at hottopic and brags about being anti big a.

Its called being a freeman-on-the-land.

[ChaosAdvocate]

So, if I understand this correctly, Chaos Advocate's one thing is that he's planning a hunger strike for gun rights? Can you elaborate on your methods? You already covered your reasons.

In the near future me and all pro-gun people will come together and agree to refuse to eat for a certain amount of time in some time. Then announce that a hunger strike is being done to protest against draconian gun control, to demand that it be abolished or loosened.

Are you coordinating with an existing group, or recruiting on your lonesome?

Yes, libertarian organizations and also anybody who hates gun control.

Okay, I'm a little confused by this answer. Is there a specific libertarian group or groups that you've started talking with about this? Or are you just assuming all these people will materialize when you announce your awesome idea because of how cool and smart you are?

If I told you how do I know you will not use it against me/us or do something to bring harm? I can tell you though that both Libertarian-Capitalists and the Libertarian/Democratic-Left(socialists) are in favor. They are nearly indistinguishable aside from different groups and economic beliefs. There is one new political party which has already been registered a few months ago that closely resembles the French Revolution ideology.

I am interested in activism tactics regardless of how fucking stupid the cause is. Obviously if there's something where posting it online will spoil the fun then don't, but this seems pretty straightforward and not like the government can a) arrest you for planning it or b) stop you from doing it with advanced notice.

You have two large(?) political groups that are in favor of gun rights, and a third recently established political party that thinks the reign of terror is a pretty good idea? Have you talked with leadership or influential members of any of these parties about the feasibility of a hunger strike as part of your campaign, and what were their responses? What I'm trying to get at with these questions is do you have a plan or just an idea?

I'm still waiting currently, also its better to have the element of surprise. I am very secretive in nearly everything I do so whoever I am up against cannot predict my moves. Also its risky in that if a revolution does break out they would know who to go after/target in order to weaken the people doing it.

The previous prime minister in power and financial guy messed up Australia's economy pretty badly apparently but they lost the leadership election before they could throw more monkey wrenches to clog the system. Unemployment percent that has overtaken the U.S by nearly 10x more in 1-2 years, ridiculously expensive housing bubble for first home buyers that exceeds the U.S and multiplied debt rate. The failed chocolate factory tour and upgrade deal also contributed.

Also its not one or two but a network of micro/minor parties up against the corporate funded 3 parties(Labor, Liberal and Greens who are all neoliberal, only difference is hardcore to most softcore). It works with a two party system("Two party preferred) identical to that of the U.S. The most funded parties get the highest change of taking power. The grassroots campaign is to first raise awareness in all people about this issue.

I also have my own methods. Encourage people to vote for somebody who is extremely stupid enough to be or will be a monkey wrench to the system + its foreign globalist/neo-colonial policies. Rand Paul/Trump are potential good candidates for the U.S as a monkey wrench to corporate globalization and Tony Abbott for Aus though I hope the Malcolm guy will also be a monkey wrench to the current system and mess it up.

From what I've read about chaos theory, chaos also is related to many different things going in different directions. In the "change" type of chaos, it requires a combination of many different factors. It might become possible soon since Australia's economic crisis severity has overtaken the U.S, possibly turning it into another "Greece" or perhaps even India/Africa(Economically and work rights due to lack of union militancy to defend from neocon attacks on it) if allowed to continue down that path. Hold the pendulum in one direction back enough for it to swing back violently.

[Q. G. Pennyworth]

Are we still talking about a hunger strike, or have you wandered off into revolutionland again?

[trippinprincezz13]

It's been real guys but the work day is ending and I've gotta home and thought-form up something to do my laundry for me while I go on a hunger strike and wait for the revolution to bring me a gun.

Yoink?

Go for it 

Mysteriously, my laundry went undone this weekend...

[Cainad (dec.)]

Infact the U.S government may already be doing some experiments without public knowledge(A very unusual creature that looked like a mixture of different animal traits once washed up on a shore from an island where they do experiments).

Skull island?

Long island*. This specimen here looks to be a combination of human genes and another animal or something else entirely, the shore was also close to an island used for biological experiments by the U.S government: http://weirdthings.com/2011/02/creature-washes-up-on-long-island/

https://coolaggregator.wordpress.com/2008/07/30/mystery-creature-washes-up-on-long-island/

http://weekinweird.com/2015/05/21/camp-hero-americas-weirdest-state-park-is-haunted-by-strange-creatures-and-psychic-spy-experiments/

Animal testing center confirmed responsible: http://askville.amazon.com/Plum-Island-Animal-Center-responsible-strange-creature-washed-ashore/AnswerViewer.do?requestId=13733904

Oh, you mean the thing that resembled exactly what a dead raccoon would look like after a few days in the ocean?


Also, anyone who considers the French Revolution an ideal model for political change is either trolling or monumentally stupid. Possibly both!

[ChaosAdvocate]

Infact the U.S government may already be doing some experiments without public knowledge(A very unusual creature that looked like a mixture of different animal traits once washed up on a shore from an island where they do experiments).

Skull island?

Long island*. This specimen here looks to be a combination of human genes and another animal or something else entirely, the shore was also close to an island used for biological experiments by the U.S government: http://weirdthings.com/2011/02/creature-washes-up-on-long-island/

https://coolaggregator.wordpress.com/2008/07/30/mystery-creature-washes-up-on-long-island/

http://weekinweird.com/2015/05/21/camp-hero-americas-weirdest-state-park-is-haunted-by-strange-creatures-and-psychic-spy-experiments/

Animal testing center confirmed responsible: http://askville.amazon.com/Plum-Island-Animal-Center-responsible-strange-creature-washed-ashore/AnswerViewer.do?requestId=13733904

Oh, you mean the thing that resembled exactly what a dead raccoon would look like after a few days in the ocean?


Also, anyone who considers the French Revolution an ideal model for political change is either trolling or monumentally stupid. Possibly both!

The French Revolution(1789-1790s) created a culture of anti-elitism, spitting on authority figures and constant protesting/rioting which still exists today. It led to the June Rebellion of 1832 and also to the first attempt at anarchism/social anarchy(Paris Commune 1871): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JAn8SB-BbdE

People today there still being fiercely defensive of their rights and reacting very aggressively such as blocking off tunnels or throwing molotovs when they are made to give up 1 or two freedoms/rights today there because of that revolution. The French Revolution was the first revolution where the general people slew the elites that held them back, the new replacing the old. So isn't that also kind of chaotic(From what I have learned about it so far because I am new to it)?

I hate the elites for holding us back including from any potential discovery of the unusual through coverups, I wish they all got guillotined too someday.

[ChaosAdvocate]

Are we still talking about a hunger strike, or have you wandered off into revolutionland again?

BOTH. Just as chaos(From what I've learned so far, I'm new to this) goes in both/many directions as its said? Hunger strike would open possibilities for people to make revolutions or protests easier.