Running my own take on The Temple of Elemental Evil.

[The Wizard Joseph]

I look forward to hearing the rest whenever you get the time.

[The Good Reverend Roger]

I look forward to hearing the rest whenever you get the time.

Oh, right.  Forgot.

So far, one party is dead, and the other - the less experienced party - now has to try to take down a bardic lich on their own.

It's not going to end well.

The campaign will be over - for good or for ill - the Saturday after next.  I'll post the shit then.

[Don Coyote]

I look forward to hearing the rest whenever you get the time.

Oh, right.  Forgot.

So far, one party is dead, and the other - the less experienced party - now has to try to take down a bardic lich on their own.

It's not going to end well.

The campaign will be over - for good or for ill - the Saturday after next.  I'll post the shit then.

bardic lich

Some how I want to say that you are an asshole for that. That just seems....unnatural.

[The Wizard Joseph]

I look forward to hearing the rest whenever you get the time.

Oh, right.  Forgot.

So far, one party is dead, and the other - the less experienced party - now has to try to take down a bardic lich on their own.

It's not going to end well.

The campaign will be over - for good or for ill - the Saturday after next.  I'll post the shit then.

bardic lich

Some how I want to say that you are an asshole for that. That just seems....unnatural.

Awesome Roger, whenever works for you. 


I agree Don Coyote. Bardic Lich makes my brain get the bad-tingle. It DOES sound like a great way to preserve a history in song FOREVER though. I only really buck at the notion of a "good" alignment lich. Lawful neutral would be about as decent as a lich conceptually gets IMO, and such a lich is doomed if the other liches discover such a "weakness".

[The Good Reverend Roger]

I look forward to hearing the rest whenever you get the time.

Oh, right.  Forgot.

So far, one party is dead, and the other - the less experienced party - now has to try to take down a bardic lich on their own.

It's not going to end well.

The campaign will be over - for good or for ill - the Saturday after next.  I'll post the shit then.

bardic lich

Some how I want to say that you are an asshole for that. That just seems....unnatural.

Awesome Roger, whenever works for you. 


I agree Don Coyote. Bardic Lich makes my brain get the bad-tingle. It DOES sound like a great way to preserve a history in song FOREVER though. I only really buck at the notion of a "good" alignment lich. Lawful neutral would be about as decent as a lich conceptually gets IMO, and such a lich is doomed if the other liches discover such a "weakness".

Liches are by definition evil.

[The Good Reverend Roger]

I look forward to hearing the rest whenever you get the time.

Oh, right.  Forgot.

So far, one party is dead, and the other - the less experienced party - now has to try to take down a bardic lich on their own.

It's not going to end well.

The campaign will be over - for good or for ill - the Saturday after next.  I'll post the shit then.

bardic lich

Some how I want to say that you are an asshole for that. That just seems....unnatural.

Anyone with CL11 qualifies to be a lich.

So, like, a 14th level ranger with the natural weapons fighting style option.  Yeah, his spell suck, but he's a fear-mongering, permanent paralysis delivery device.  And you can't see him coming, and you can't really run away.

[Don Coyote]

I look forward to hearing the rest whenever you get the time.

Oh, right.  Forgot.

So far, one party is dead, and the other - the less experienced party - now has to try to take down a bardic lich on their own.

It's not going to end well.

The campaign will be over - for good or for ill - the Saturday after next.  I'll post the shit then.

bardic lich

Some how I want to say that you are an asshole for that. That just seems....unnatural.

Anyone with CL11 qualifies to be a lich.

So, like, a 14th level ranger with the natural weapons fighting style option.  Yeah, his spell suck, but he's a fear-mongering, permanent paralysis delivery device.  And you can't see him coming, and you can't really run away.

You sir, are an ass, and I salute you.

[The Good Reverend Roger]

I look forward to hearing the rest whenever you get the time.

Oh, right.  Forgot.

So far, one party is dead, and the other - the less experienced party - now has to try to take down a bardic lich on their own.

It's not going to end well.

The campaign will be over - for good or for ill - the Saturday after next.  I'll post the shit then.

bardic lich

Some how I want to say that you are an asshole for that. That just seems....unnatural.

Anyone with CL11 qualifies to be a lich.

So, like, a 14th level ranger with the natural weapons fighting style option.  Yeah, his spell suck, but he's a fear-mongering, permanent paralysis delivery device.  And you can't see him coming, and you can't really run away.

You sir, are an ass, and I salute you.

If I lived in my campaign world, I'd just curl into a ball and wait to die.

[Don Coyote]

I look forward to hearing the rest whenever you get the time.

Oh, right.  Forgot.

So far, one party is dead, and the other - the less experienced party - now has to try to take down a bardic lich on their own.

It's not going to end well.

The campaign will be over - for good or for ill - the Saturday after next.  I'll post the shit then.

bardic lich

Some how I want to say that you are an asshole for that. That just seems....unnatural.

Anyone with CL11 qualifies to be a lich.

So, like, a 14th level ranger with the natural weapons fighting style option.  Yeah, his spell suck, but he's a fear-mongering, permanent paralysis delivery device.  And you can't see him coming, and you can't really run away.

You sir, are an ass, and I salute you.

If I lived in my campaign world, I'd just curl into a ball and wait to die.

At least your players seen to enjoy your brand of hell. My last PF group crashed and burned so hard that I haven't run PF in 9 months.

[Prelate Diogenes Shandor]

I look forward to hearing the rest whenever you get the time.

Oh, right.  Forgot.

So far, one party is dead, and the other - the less experienced party - now has to try to take down a bardic lich on their own.

It's not going to end well.

The campaign will be over - for good or for ill - the Saturday after next.  I'll post the shit then.

bardic lich

Some how I want to say that you are an asshole for that. That just seems....unnatural.

Awesome Roger, whenever works for you. 


I agree Don Coyote. Bardic Lich makes my brain get the bad-tingle. It DOES sound like a great way to preserve a history in song FOREVER though.

I think y'all are looking at this the wrong way. You need to think like Rob Zombie, Ozzy Osbourne, GWAR type shit. Especially Rob Zombie.

[The Wizard Joseph]

I look forward to hearing the rest whenever you get the time.

Oh, right.  Forgot.

So far, one party is dead, and the other - the less experienced party - now has to try to take down a bardic lich on their own.

It's not going to end well.

The campaign will be over - for good or for ill - the Saturday after next.  I'll post the shit then.

bardic lich

Some how I want to say that you are an asshole for that. That just seems....unnatural.

Awesome Roger, whenever works for you. 


I agree Don Coyote. Bardic Lich makes my brain get the bad-tingle. It DOES sound like a great way to preserve a history in song FOREVER though. I only really buck at the notion of a "good" alignment lich. Lawful neutral would be about as decent as a lich conceptually gets IMO, and such a lich is doomed if the other liches discover such a "weakness".

Liches are by definition evil.

Yeah. I've seen rules for other variants and still haven't stopped screaming. I only imagine a neutral one at the furthest end of plot wankery involving gods and crap. But from a story perspective a high end mummy is what I think I'd use if I was going for a gods and shit type of plot.

Liches are always evil. If a Lich seems not evil, sucks to be you fool.