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Re: UNLIMITED Immigration Nutbaggery Thread
« Reply #150 on: October 03, 2019, 06:12:58 pm »
The only way to get worse than concentration camps is private sector for-profit concentration camps run by the lowest bidder as far below budget as physically possible, after all.
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« Reply #151 on: October 03, 2019, 06:13:22 pm »
Also the DNA samples being taken. They say it's "just" for future crime prevention, but I have a very bad feeling about where that can go....

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« Reply #152 on: October 03, 2019, 06:15:09 pm »
Just a feeling? It’s a fucking certainty.
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Re: UNLIMITED Immigration Nutbaggery Thread
« Reply #153 on: October 03, 2019, 06:21:23 pm »
You don't know how bad my imagination can get. One thing government functionaries, especially in security, and terrorists have in common is a distinct lack of imagination. They'll do something hurr-durr stupid and evil with it, of course. What I worry is that now they're putting ideas in the mind of people who don't default to hurr-durr stupid, who will do something horrifically evil with it, further down the line.

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« Reply #154 on: October 03, 2019, 07:00:25 pm »
I am pretty sure you and I are on the same page. More or less on the lines of eugenics as a proactive approach to crime management. Nazi Germany meets Big Data. Maybe you have worse ideas, but there are shades of badness and that’s close to the worse end of things.

The thing is, that sort of deal is all over the Trump admin’s propaganda already. Trump his own stupid self has said things in that neighborhood. I’m not worried about it possibly happening, because I’m 100% certain it will go down that route if not actively prevented, and I’m pretty sure that they’ll do everything they can to entrench it in there firmly.
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« Reply #155 on: October 04, 2019, 12:05:29 am »
Yeah, the intersection of genetic databases, the surveillance state and big data has so many unpleasant implications my skin is crawling.

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Re: UNLIMITED Immigration Nutbaggery Thread
« Reply #156 on: October 04, 2019, 12:11:23 am »
I think we basically agree here, yeah. I just think it’s guaranteed to be used for the worst possible things, and that the sick imaginations you worry about are in fact behind the push for it. It’s not about not giving them ideas, it’s about taking their toys away before they get to open the package, which is a very different problem space.
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« Reply #157 on: October 04, 2019, 01:24:15 am »
Yeah, the intersection of genetic databases, the surveillance state and big data has so many unpleasant implications my skin is crawling.

So, like China and how they officially launched their social credit system this year?
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« Reply #158 on: October 31, 2019, 03:59:07 pm »
https://apnews.com/b16a8caa88fa45ddb08474d6ccd71006

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BOSTON (AP) — A top federal immigration official said Wednesday that he takes responsibility for and regrets how the Trump administration’s now rescinded decision to stop considering requests from immigrants seeking to defer deportation for medical treatment and other hardships played out.

Acting U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services Director Ken Cuccinelli told congressional lawmakers he was solely responsible for the widely criticized Aug. 7 policy change.

He deflected pointed questions from Democratic Rep. Ayanna Pressley of Massachusetts about whether the directive came from Trump or prominent members of the Republican president’s White House staff.

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« Reply #160 on: Today at 08:37:42 pm »
While I was disgusted at the whole thing, this paragraph pissed me off the most

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There is no uniformed security guard at the entrance. The residents, girls 13-17, can call their families as needed, staff say, and there are more therapeutic services — including intensive treatment for victims of trafficking and abuse — throughout the week. They sleep two to a room, and are free to wander in a large, outdoor area, or “shop” in a store filled with donated items. Case workers hustle to reunite them with family in the U.S. quickly, averaging four weeks. And costs to taxpayers are a third of the $775 per day costs at large, emergency shelters where kids sleep 100 to a room.

It's still a prison. For children. Who have committed no crime.

Just because you've applied white collar day prison standards to how it's run do not negate those very basic facts.