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UK General Election 8th June: Shake it all about?

Started by Vanadium Gryllz, February 23, 2016, 02:54:34 PM

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Faust

12th of April is the new cliff edge, I'd imagine that will get kicked out a couple of times, but wont go past may 23rd and the EU elections.

Quote from: Cain on March 21, 2019, 06:28:21 PM
Quote from: Faust on March 21, 2019, 08:03:12 AM
People in downing street frantically googling "What is a supply chain", followed by "gravity of trade" followed by "what to stockpile in a zombie apocalypse"

If only.  They were too busy making a video to own Parliament and spam on Facebook of her speech last night.

I wish I were making this up.
That was the most unsettling speech I've seen in years. Whole bunch of complex emotions watching it. Revolting, incitement of violence against MPs, odes to fascism without the charisma or good dress sense of fascism. Alternating between outraged with her, and wanting to go up and hug her.
Sleepless nights at the chateau

Doktor Howl

Quote from: Faust on March 21, 2019, 11:45:39 PM
12th of April is the new cliff edge, I'd imagine that will get kicked out a couple of times, but wont go past may 23rd and the EU elections.

Quote from: Cain on March 21, 2019, 06:28:21 PM
Quote from: Faust on March 21, 2019, 08:03:12 AM
People in downing street frantically googling "What is a supply chain", followed by "gravity of trade" followed by "what to stockpile in a zombie apocalypse"

If only.  They were too busy making a video to own Parliament and spam on Facebook of her speech last night.

I wish I were making this up.
That was the most unsettling speech I've seen in years. Whole bunch of complex emotions watching it. Revolting, incitement of violence against MPs, odes to fascism without the charisma or good dress sense of fascism. Alternating between outraged with her, and wanting to go up and hug her.

I loved the whole "we can vote on my plan until people do it" and in the same breath "no second referendum".  :lulz:

I wonder what Putin has on the silly old bag?
Molon Lube

altered

At this point it's either stratospheric to the point of sounding like fevered conspiracy nut psychosis or she's so stupid he needn't have anything on her at all.

Children and dogs are going to be chasing her through the streets, barefoot and clutching shivs of broken glass. She is going to be a pariah, and she just keeps digging. There isn't any rational reason to do this unless the alternative is worse, or she's too dumb to be permitted to breathe without a handler.
"I am that worst of all type of criminal...I cannot bring myself to do what you tell me, because you told me."

There's over 100 of us in this meat-suit. You'd think it runs like a ship, but it's more like a hundred and ten angry ghosts having an old-school QuakeWorld tournament, three people desperately trying to make sure the gamers don't go hungry or soil themselves, and the Facilities manager weeping in the corner as the garbage piles high.

Cain

The EU did basically lowkey tell us to overthrow her yesterday.  Obviously they can't explicitly call for regime change, they're not Americans...but it was nevertheless very telling.

Doktor Howl

Quote from: Cain on March 22, 2019, 05:42:13 PM
The EU did basically lowkey tell us to overthrow her yesterday.  Obviously they can't explicitly call for regime change, they're not Americans...but it was nevertheless very telling.

She's sort of like Thatcher chewing on paint chips, really.
Molon Lube

altered

Quote from: Doktor Howl on March 22, 2019, 06:45:46 PM
Quote from: Cain on March 22, 2019, 05:42:13 PM
The EU did basically lowkey tell us to overthrow her yesterday.  Obviously they can't explicitly call for regime change, they're not Americans...but it was nevertheless very telling.

She's sort of like Thatcher chewing on paint chips, really.

Good to know I wasn't mistaken. I wasn't alive for that time period but the impression I got from The Stories was that May is Thatcher's self destructive, idiotic sister.
"I am that worst of all type of criminal...I cannot bring myself to do what you tell me, because you told me."

There's over 100 of us in this meat-suit. You'd think it runs like a ship, but it's more like a hundred and ten angry ghosts having an old-school QuakeWorld tournament, three people desperately trying to make sure the gamers don't go hungry or soil themselves, and the Facilities manager weeping in the corner as the garbage piles high.

Faust

So, this coup... Can May literally just say "no", because they cant no confidence her? Or just say, fine, I will stand down after the exit date?
Sleepless nights at the chateau

Cain

Yup, she can.

And from the sounds of it, that is exactly what she will do.  Her chief whip, and all the other whips, told her yesterday they had no confidence in her leadership any more...and, perhaps more crucially, that the vote for her deal will not pass unless she stands down.

She basically said "thank you for your thoughts" and carried on as though nothing had happened.  So I see no reason to think she will react differently to, say, the Cabinet threatening to resign.

Faust

The ERG were so menacing with their threats of no confidence. They really should have waited if they wanted any kind of effective way of removing her.
I don't see a change of guard having any real effect other then whoever come in, being presented with the same choices.
Sleepless nights at the chateau

Cain

With the ERG you have to remember they have to balance May against the idea that someone like Corbyn might seize power and pursue an even closer relationship to Europe than May.  I'm half-convinced they did it at this point to prevent anyone else doing it and succeeding.

This is the closest the UK has been to a dictatorship since universal suffrage.  She has no political or public support, yet she just keeps on going.

Faust

Quote from: Cain on March 24, 2019, 04:09:56 PM
With the ERG you have to remember they have to balance May against the idea that someone like Corbyn might seize power and pursue an even closer relationship to Europe than May.  I'm half-convinced they did it at this point to prevent anyone else doing it and succeeding.

This is the closest the UK has been to a dictatorship since universal suffrage.  She has no political or public support, yet she just keeps on going.
She won the vote, the people have spoken. And have no right to change their mind. Christ she has become the physical manifestation of Brexit itself
Sleepless nights at the chateau

P3nT4gR4m

Quote from: nullified on March 22, 2019, 07:36:31 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on March 22, 2019, 06:45:46 PM
Quote from: Cain on March 22, 2019, 05:42:13 PM
The EU did basically lowkey tell us to overthrow her yesterday.  Obviously they can't explicitly call for regime change, they're not Americans...but it was nevertheless very telling.

She's sort of like Thatcher chewing on paint chips, really.

Good to know I wasn't mistaken. I wasn't alive for that time period but the impression I got from The Stories was that May is Thatcher's self destructive, idiotic sister.

She's essentially Thatcher, minus the cock and balls.

I'm up to my arse in Brexit Numpties, but I want more.  Target-rich environments are the new sexy.
Not actually a meat product.
Ass-Kicking & Foot-Stomping Ancient Master of SHIT FUCK FUCK FUCK
Awful and Bent Behemothic Results of Last Night's Painful Squat.
High Altitude Haggis-Filled Sex Bucket From Beyond Time and Space.
Internet Monkey Person of Filthy and Immoral Pygmy-Porn Wart Contagion
Octomom Auxillary Heat Exchanger Repairman
walking the fine line line between genius and batshit fucking crazy

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Pergamos

I had the impression Thatcher was far more politically skilled.  She had the support of her party and the public.   May has neither.

The Johnny

<<My image in some places, is of a monster of some kind who wants to pull a string and manipulate people. Nothing could be further from the truth. People are manipulated; I just want them to be manipulated more effectively.>>

-B.F. Skinner

MMIX

Quote from: The Johnny on March 25, 2019, 03:06:20 AM

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Yep :( that's all we have got to look forward to . . . a whole steaming pile of Zigazig aaaah
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