UK General Election 8th June: Shake it all about?

[Doktor Howl]

So on January 1st, the UK will learn what "trade velocity" means.

I am quite positive that Farage and Johnson and their creatures knew this was going to happen, and are in fact counting on it.

[Faust]

Yeah, basically, I think they have shorted everything in the UK.
Like trump devaluing specific industries with tariffs and I wouldn't be surprised that is what they were doing. On the other side I'm fairly certain that this is what the EU want as well, Boris is adamant that he wont have the level playing field, but a week after no deal the same offer will be there.

[P3nT4gR4m]

This is shaping up to be almost as fucking hilarious as a second trump term

[Faust]

https://old.reddit.com/r/ukpolitics/comments/int00t/uk_plan_to_undermine_withdrawal_treaty_threatens/

Floating the idea of overriding the withdrawal agreement (an international treaty), by not following through with the commitment to NI.

This will:
Immediately end negotiations, resulting in no deal. New negotiations will be vetoed until the UK reverses this position.

Have Ireland seek sanctions from the guarantors of the good friday agreement, including the U.S

Force the need for borders in NI which will Immediately lead to the restarting of the troubles.

Destroy any little faith in the international community that the uk intends to follow its agreements, the same international community it now wants to sign trade deals with

[Cain]

And yet, this is also absolutely no surprise to anyone who has been following Brexit in any level of detail. It's been all but inevitable for a while now.

Johnson is also saying tonight that if there's no agreement by October 15th that we should "move on", because of course a trade deal with our closest nations is purely optional and definitely not a necessity in the 21st century. Especially when you're an island.

[MMIX]

And yet, this is also absolutely no surprise to anyone who has been following Brexit in any level of detail. It's been all but inevitable for a while now.

Johnson is also saying tonight that if there's no agreement by October 15th that we should "move on", because of course a trade deal with our closest nations is purely optional and definitely not a necessity in the 21st century. Especially when you're an island.

Yeah, but not just any old island, eh?

Fairest Isle, All Isles Excelling
Fairest isle, all isles excelling,
Seat of pleasure and of love
Venus here will choose her dwelling,
And forsake her Cyprian grove.
Cupid from his fav'rite nation
Care and envy will remove;
Jealousy, that poisons passion,
And despair, that dies for love.

Gentle murmurs, sweet complaining,
Sighs that blow the fire of love
Soft repulses, kind disdaining,
Shall be all the pains you prove.
Ev'ry swain shall pay his duty,
Grateful ev'ry nymph shall prove;
And as these excel in beauty,
Those shall be renown'd for love.

https://lyricstranslate.com

Pretty sure the last line confirms we are well on the way to being royally fucked!

[Cain]

Sorry, that's not Rule Britannia, the most patriotic song of all time. Your dedication to the cause and fighting Intolerant Left Wokeism is now suspect, citizen.

[Cain]

I wonder if this comes close enough to "wrecking the Good Friday agreement" for US congress? Remember, Pelosi has said before now that if the Good Friday agreement is undermined, a trade deal with the UK will be vetoed. I don't trust the Democrats to not sell us all out to Big Pharma and Big Insurance in any eventual trade deal, but given Good Friday is part of Clinton's legacy and the large Irish-American voting constituences on the east coast, I can certainly see a logic in being invested in that aspect of Brexit.

[Faust]

Several republicans have as well, while it was Clintons legacy there are a lot of republicans appeal to Irish American voters.
It's speculative, to be honest I could just see trump putting the sanctions on to the UK to force the gov into a position of further desperation and more favorable terms for him in a trade deal, and reneging on the WA and GFA give him the leverage to do so while looking like he is doing it to be a good guy.

I wouldn't be surprised if other countries followed suit, for that same predatory purpose

[Cain]

Oh yeah, definitely. With exemptions for Trump's own UK-based business interests, of course. And other countries are not going to be impressed by our continual bad faith negotiating and apparent willingness to run roughshod over past and present agreements. Japan, for example. Hell, Australia and India are not going to be impressed either.

And in other good news

[Cain]

Get ready for lockdown 2, electric boogaloo.

[Doktor Howl]

Oh yeah, definitely. With exemptions for Trump's own UK-based business interests, of course. And other countries are not going to be impressed by our continual bad faith negotiating and apparent willingness to run roughshod over past and present agreements. Japan, for example. Hell, Australia and India are not going to be impressed either.

And in other good news

Well, that's the thing, isn't it?  I would not trade with the USA or the UK if I had any other option, because they have both demonstrated that they will break a deal on a whim.

[Doktor Howl]

Get ready for lockdown 2, electric boogaloo.

https://apnews.com/f5393ade3062dd44fb5f28769c48c679

[Cain]

Well, that's the thing, isn't it?  I would not trade with the USA or the UK if I had any other option, because they have both demonstrated that they will break a deal on a whim.

Alexa, what's a "stable regulatory environment for foreign investors"?

[Faust]

The following extensions are up in January;
Open skies - ability to fly and land in europe
Euratom - access to radio isotopes such as the ones used in MRI machines
ISEM - the ability to buy and sell electricity on the European market

Its shit, its vindictive, but if the WA isnt implemented and a border is needed in NI. the temporary extension of each of these will end.
There is a security clause in each that allows member states to block non eu members.
Greece used it on Turkey to a lesser extent.

The hope would  be that by ramping up the pressure the UK would revisit the commitment it already made for NI.