UK General Election 8th June: Shake it all about?

[Junkenstein]

Hey Cain,

I'm becoming more suspicious about some of the public faces of the leave side. I'm fairly sure that some of these have actually made quite a bit of cash during this "austerity" bullshit and are likely to make more money with further cut-backs and restrictive measures. Am I on the right line of thinking here?


In other news, Geldof and Farage buggered about on boats. This is one of the few times when it's tragic not to hear the phrase "...there were no survivors"

[Cain]

Possibly, depends on the faces you have in mind.

And true.  Fuck me, it'd take Farage for me to like Geldof, the self-important, sanctimonious twat that he is.

[Junkenstein]

Boris and gove mainly, pretty sure every corporate figure to throw around a leave letter would also fit the bill. Jcb in particular there.

[Vanadium Gryllz]

Did anyone watch Gove being a cunt (on Question Time) for about 90 minutes straight the other day?

He had about 3 lines - "Immigrants", "faith in the British people" and "Make Britain great again" and just proceeded to completely ignore most of the points the audience brought up.

I am honestly getting more and more worried - I have heard a number of the people that I work with saying straight-faced they thing that leaving is the right thing to do because 'well, we'll be able to control our borders.'

Also am I the only one who has heard -nothing- from the remain side? Surely they could be doing more work picking apart the bullshit that Leave is spouting.

[Cain]

I didn't see Gove, but the Remain campaign are honestly awful.  In theory it should be easy to rip apart the leave campaign, but instead they're relying on bullshit scare stories to counter Leave's bullshit scare stories.

[P3nT4gR4m]

Problem with the politics of fear is that it's damnably effective so why bother using anything else?, From a casual spectator's perspective it gets right fucking boring, tho. 

[P3nT4gR4m]

Johnathan Pie pretty much nails it 

[Prelate Diogenes Shandor]

http://www.economist.com/blogs/bagehot/2016/02/meaning-brexit?force=scn%2Ffb%2Fte%2Fbl%2Fed%2Faninterviewwithianbremmer

Brexit would bring the “further marginalisation of Britain as a power with influence”
the prospects of TTIP (the Transatlantic Trade and Investment Partnership) and the attractiveness of the British market would be hit “very dramatically” by Brexit

I'm in favor of anything that will sink the TTIP

[Cain]

Yes, we know, you're a one-issue fanatic and it's terribly tiresome.

Never mind the hundreds of other issues that the British exit from the EU might have.  All the foreign workers in the UK, all the UK citizens overseas who will lose their residency rights.  Never mind pretty much all the predictions showing the economy will go into a sharp recession.  Never mind the shock to the already fragile looking global economy.  Never mind all of that...your pet issue will be addressed, and that is all that matters.

[The Good Reverend Roger]

http://www.economist.com/blogs/bagehot/2016/02/meaning-brexit?force=scn%2Ffb%2Fte%2Fbl%2Fed%2Faninterviewwithianbremmer

Brexit would bring the “further marginalisation of Britain as a power with influence”
the prospects of TTIP (the Transatlantic Trade and Investment Partnership) and the attractiveness of the British market would be hit “very dramatically” by Brexit

I'm in favor of anything that will sink the TTIP

This is what fanaticism is, same as ISIS, Trump voters, and Justin Beiber groupies.

well done, that man.

[Cain]

3 days to go.

I'm actually working Wednesday night, so I suppose Thursday morning I'll go to a polling station, sleep the rest of the day off and see what the polls are saying while I'm on the night shift.

They reckon all the ballots will be counted by Friday, but I wouldn't hold my breath.  This is going to be very close.

[Cain]

Well, I discharged my democratic duties around 7am.

Normally this would call for a drink, but even though I had just finished work it was still only 7am, and given what the results may be tomorrow morning, I may need to drink then instead.

It's worth remembering this vote isn't, strictly speaking legally binding.  Of course, no government is going to go against it because that would be political suicide, but this does bring up the potential (if unlikely) scenario of there being a dead heat.  As the head of the Electoral Commission said, this is an "advisory referendum", so if it's a dead heat, she will declare that.  Then the politicians will have to decide.

[LMNO]

What's the time difference?  I hear first results will be coming in around midnight, London time.

[Vanadium Gryllz]

I voted without having to provide any i.d. Seems prone to voter fraud. Just "name, address?" *crosses out my name on a big list* "there you go."

LMNO - Individual constituencies will start announcing their votes at midnight but it won't all be fully accounted for until about 7am apparently. That might be.. 1 or 2am for you?

[Vanadium Gryllz]

Oh, and apparently half of London (and probably the rest of the country) is flooded so it's chaos.

Cain made a smart move voting earlier.