UK General Election 8th June: Shake it all about?

[Faust]

It's already started.

Farage accuses them of delaying the process, others complaining it is ignoring the will of the people.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4150822/Judges-ruling-PM-executive-powers-trigger-Brexit.html

The worst is, a strong foundation of governance is required in or out of the EU, if anything it shows the process on the balance of power is there to stop rash decisions by the Prime Minister

Now its probably all hot air as parliament will likely vote to accept whatever is put in front of them, but it is important that vote happens.

[Cain]

Depends on how badly Parliament wants to assert its independence.  There are arguments that the process thus far has been secretive and without input from key sectors of government and civil society....refusing to vote pending further input could give Parliament greater control over preceedings.  But then we have to balance that against character and actual assassination threats...

And why do we still let that tosspot Farage speak on anything?  Didn't he run off to America to be FOX News' new coffee boy?

[Cain]

Labour and Tory rebels are pushing for a white paper on Brexit.

[Faust]

Well at least it means brexit wont be happening this year. How long do inquiries take?

[Cain]

Over something as complex as Brexit?  Could be years.  Of course, it's not a given yet, but if they did get it, it would be a big win for accountability.

[Junkenstein]

Blair making anti brexit statements. Guess that's fucked it then. Support for this idiocy will be at a record high by Monday.

In next weeks news, Charlie Manson explaining why you should have voted for Clinton.

[Junkenstein]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-39042876

European Commission President Jean-Claude Juncker has warned the UK it faces a "very hefty" bill for Brexit.
He promised two years of "tough negotiation", when discussions on leaving terms get under way between the government and the European Union.
Exit will not come "at a discount or at zero cost", he said in a speech to the Belgian Federal Parliament.
Reports suggest the UK could have to pay the EU up to 60 billion euros (£51bn) after Brexit talks start.

As with any figure quoted in news like this, it's almost certainly going to be higher. 80bn+ would be my guess by the time the current incompetent mob finish the deal, around 90bn by the time the public get to know about it.

Austerity on meth is coming, and yet still half the country are just screaming to get on with it because they're damn fools with no understanding of political realities. May's legacy at this rate will be fucking the country to the nth generation. When the bill lands, that legacy may well expand to include the breakaway of scotland from this idiocy too. I wonder what kind of bill they'll try to level to those north of the border? I'd guess at least a quarter which will be treated in a similar fashion to poll tax demands.

I'm starting to think that making a few Canadian connections might not be the worst move I could make around now.

[P3nT4gR4m]

I wouldn't bank on scotland leaving the UK. We are a nation comprised almost exclusively of dumb fucks who already voted to remain based on the fact that our position in europe might be compromised if we left. I'm guessing they could state the same case this time around and we'd still fucking vote to stay an occupied territory. We, as a nation, are that stupid 

[Junkenstein]

I'm not so sure. It depends on just how big a shitshow brexit becomes to a degree. With idiot nationalism on the rise everywhere we might just join in.

When the brexit bill lands it'll force the conversation again at the least. A few more nhs and social care fuckups may just tip it.

[Cain]

Meanwhile...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-39099574

A woman married to a British man for 27 years has been sent back to Singapore.

Irene Clennell told the BBC she has been removed without warning.

She had been living near Durham with her husband, and has two British sons, as well as a granddaughter, in the UK.

Periods spent abroad caring for her parents are thought to have invalidated her residential status.

Note that this is under pre-Brexit rules.  This country is going to be a complete clusterfuck by April 2018

[Cain]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-39200658

The amendment, which was carried by a majority of 98, would require the final terms of the UK's withdrawal from the EU to be put to separate votes in the Commons and the Lords.

Some peers believe this would amount to a veto but ministers insist the UK would leave the EU anyway irrespective of whether it was approved or not.

That constitutional crisis is still a possibility.

[Junkenstein]

Second referendum coming for Scotland it seems.

There's no good outcome here. It's difficult to assess which is going to be worse.

A-union and following the Tories off the cliff.

B-separation and a solo jump from a slightly different cliff.

All I'm sure about is we'll pick the worst possible option. It's inevitable.

[Faust]

Not to revel but a lot of Irish people have been joking about setting up The union of Craic, where The republic, Northern Ireland and Scotland form a state.

[Junkenstein]

That would stand a chance at being viable, if only there was a chance at stopping arguing which sect of Christianity is the right one.

So no hope there then.

[Faust]

That would stand a chance at being viable, if only there was a chance at stopping arguing which sect of Christianity is the right one.

So no hope there then.

For the time being, we recently discovered a mass grave of 700 bodies in a nunnery, even before that less then 30% of people are religious, We'll see what happens in the next few years. That said Northern Ireland is a massive money pit, it would probably take the Republic and the Scotts just to cover its day to day expenses.