UK General Election 8th June: Shake it all about?

[Cain]

The SNP would fuck the entire country over on the promise on a referendum. 

[Junkenstein]

Hey now, that's not fair. By which I mean you're being far too kind.

The SNP would fuck the country over for a packet of sweets and feeling of momentary relevance.

[Cain]

Politico poll is projecting a slaughter for Labour atm.  70 lost seats, with the Tories picking up 69.  That would give the Tories a majority of 150 seats.

[Cain]

Oh ho ho!

Crown Prosecution Service has just confirmed it intends to charge 30 people over the Tory election expenses scandal.  This could get interesting

[Vanadium Gryllz]

Oh ho ho!

Crown Prosecution Service has just confirmed it intends to charge 30 people over the Tory election expenses scandal.  This could get interesting

What are the implications of this?

[Cain]

Scandal for the Tories.  Maybe a fine.  But mostly scandal.

[Cain]

On the plus side, we will get treated to the spectacle of Theresa May being utterly skewered in the debates.  Corbyn tends not to go for gotcha moments, but Farron and rather formidable Sturgeon will in his absence.  My email from the Lib Dems also suggests they are going scorched earth, to try and make this Brexitref 2.0 - a good tactic for them, but possibly not for the country.

[Junkenstein]

The debates may is apparently not bothering with you mean? Makes a lot more sense why now.

[Cain]

Hah, what a coward.

[Vanadium Gryllz]

And I thought 2017 couldn't get any more fun 

If the debates go ahead and May isn't there that wouldn't be a good look either though right? I guess she's gotta weigh up how much of a savaging she's gonna get vs. not putting her point across at all.

Pretty sure the Tories don't give a damn about scandal any more.

[P3nT4gR4m]

And I thought 2017 couldn't get any more fun 

If the debates go ahead and May isn't there that wouldn't be a good look either though right? I guess she's gotta weigh up how much of a savaging she's gonna get vs. not putting her point across at all.

Pretty sure the Tories don't give a damn about scandal any more.

Why should they? The electorate are conditioned to accept pretty much any shit their rulers want to throw them. Same as it was in the dark ages only now the peasants are much more docile and accepting of the situation. Revolution is less likely and any glimmer of activism can be deflected with a keypress. What's changed in the last couple of hundred years? Only one thing - propaganda is now 110% effective. Human beings are programmable drones. They always were but it took a while to figure out how to hack them. The exceptions to this rule? Outnumbered millions to one. You want to stand up and do something to change the situation? Good luck. Government inc. will flick a switch and the ten thousand people nearest you will start attacking you with clubs.

[Junkenstein]

Let's put it another way: they simply don't need to. Murdoch press and others are rabidly pro Tory so as at a bare minimum the sun, express, times and mail will either ignore or mock the debates with no torys present. The BBC will include their comments on any debate without hard questions due to the non biased stance.

Why bother turning up to something that you win easily by not attending? Much more cost effective to let your rivals beat each other up and let mass media make all your points for you.

The seriously concerning thing is this effectively turns the UK into a one party state for the next 5 years at a minimum. The only real opposition will be from the snp and that can be dismissed with ease.

[Vanadium Gryllz]

I actually can't even tell if May has a point to make.

Seems like she wants bigger 'mandate' for Brexit process without all that pesky opposition. I wonder what kind of crazy shit she's planning that she has got to burn away the last vestiges of the left before she carries it out.

I wonder what crazy shit she's doing right now while we're all distracted.

[Junkenstein]

If it's any consolation, probably less than you may think.

Why be sneaky when you can just wait 8 weeks and get applauded for the exact same shit?

Anyone making predictions for the coming of Austerity 3.0? I'm guessing the NHS sold wholesale to US firms to begin with. They're already talking about selling the RBS stake "at a loss". I assume that will get sold to the usual suspects. Crapita and G4S are probably in line for some very tasty contracts in the near future too, as usual.

[Faust]

The RBS thing gives me a bit of schadenfreude, over the last few months there have been a contingent pushing that Ireland should rejoin the commonwealth and that as a Independent nation state we had a failed banking sector because we had to nationalise AIB by 96%, the states stake is going up for IPO in the next few months, expecting a profit of about 30% on it.