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UK General Election 8th June: Shake it all about?

Started by Vanadium Gryllz, February 23, 2016, 02:54:34 PM

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Cain

To be fair, May did warn us this election could lead of a coalition of chaos propped up by terrorist sympathizers

:lulz:

Cain

Oh great.

Sinn Fein say the DUP being part of government contravenes the Good Friday Agreement.  And they're actually probably right.  Especially with the Stormont Assembly's breakdown of the power-sharing arrangement.  This puts the Tories unequivocally on the side of the unionists, when it promised under the agreement to remain impartial between unionists and republicans.


Junkenstein

Oh, that's nicely done. And given the ignorance of all involved it probably won't be the last breach either.

The headlines, particularly the Murdoch ones, are not kind.   And Diana nonsense, because UK press.
Nine naked Men just walking down the road will cause a heap of trouble for all concerned.

Junkenstein

May's two top aides gone taking all the blame they can. And would you believe one used to work for sky news as a journalist? Of course you would, it happens to be true. Will be fun to see how the Sunday rags spin that as once again  an ex Murdoch pr guru is shown the door. If her own party doesn't get her the vindictive old Australian will make any negotiations a ballache.
Nine naked Men just walking down the road will cause a heap of trouble for all concerned.

Cain

Apparently the departure was a sop to the Party who demanded that at least someone's head roll over the disastrous election campaign.

Meanwhile, we wont have a Cabinet announcement until Monday.  Why?  Our glorious Unionist overlords can't work on Sundays - too busy praying for god to smite homosexuals, abortionists and papists.  In other NI related news, marching season is almost upon us, which I'm sure won't go horribly wrong as a newly empowered DUP seek to flex their muscles and an already angry Sinn Fein become increasingly incensed.

I actually feel pretty sorry for Ruth Davidson right about now.  Her work in Scotland saved May's government from further defeats, and how is she rewarded for her effort?  With May creating a coalition with a party who think she's a sinner and abomination.  She's already ruled out splitting the Scottish Conservatives from the Tory Party, but if she did I don't think anyone would blame her right now.

I also feel kinda sorry for Alistair Campbell and Jonathan Powell.  For their many failings, they poured so much hard work into Northern Ireland, and they really did give a fuck about finding a solution and stopping the fighting.  And they've kept engaged in the process over the years, even out of government.  Watching May piss it all away for a lame duck Parliament must be infuriating.

P3nT4gR4m

Falls road is gonna be total gigglefest this year :popcorn:

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Faust

SF are right in that a rule in westminster (should a government fail to be formed in NI) means indirect rule by the DUP which contravenes the good friday agreement and powersharing. However that is only because of their policy of Absenteeism. Considering we have SF in the Republic too, I unfortunatly cant blame the DUP for entering a partnership they are allowed to do.

The absenteeism leads to a bit of an impass; If SF were to have equal representation, they would need to take up their seats and the tories would have to take both parties in, such a goverment would likely last about a day before the countries are going to the polls again. The alternative is the rainbow party of SF putting Corbyn in power, in which case everyone gets what they want:
Votes on independence in Scottland and Northern Ireland, nuclear disarmerment, whatever the hell the lib dems want and of course, another referrendum on brexit to potentially hault that problem.

I don't envy the UK right now, but at the very least it might raise awareness of Northern Ireland, and for once its the DUP getting accused of terrorism from their masters which is hilarous.
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Cain


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I'm up to my arse in Brexit Numpties, but I want more.  Target-rich environments are the new sexy.
Not actually a meat product.
Ass-Kicking & Foot-Stomping Ancient Master of SHIT FUCK FUCK FUCK
Awful and Bent Behemothic Results of Last Night's Painful Squat.
High Altitude Haggis-Filled Sex Bucket From Beyond Time and Space.
Internet Monkey Person of Filthy and Immoral Pygmy-Porn Wart Contagion
Octomom Auxillary Heat Exchanger Repairman
walking the fine line line between genius and batshit fucking crazy

"computation is a pattern in the spacetime arrangement of particles, and it's not the particles but the pattern that really matters! Matter doesn't matter." -- Max Tegmark

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- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

Junkenstein

Major and Irish pm now also saying this will bugger up peace process if a deal is done with dup.

Rumors that the main dup demand is that it keeps getting the same money that it was getting when in the eu, apparently around 350 million/year. If that's true it's hilarious, if it's not then whatever deal is done will be using that as a benchmark, which will also be hilarious as one of the loons will leak the details.

Queens speech delayed until deal is done, as everyone involved is fucking clueless.

Right wing rags accusing junker and the eu of this whole mess, apparently poor may was tricked by nasty Euro types. Eu sticking boot in suggesting that all the delays may result in no deal due to no time.

In short, incompetence rules the foreseeable future.

Oh and "no climate change" gove is back and in charge of environment, because that's what was good enough for America so it's good enough here too.
Nine naked Men just walking down the road will cause a heap of trouble for all concerned.

Cain

The tabloids are also running scaremongering rumours that Sinn Fein are coming to London to take up their seats in Parliament and put Corbyn into power.

I'm pretty sure that, after a week of constantly pointing out that a NI party joining government would destroy the peace process, the last thing SF would do is do exactly the same.

Faust

SF are perfectly happy now, all they need to do is say very little and every move the DUP make will make them look better. They aren't interested in putting Corbyn in power unless it guarantees them a United Ireland, which could actually be less in the forefront of everyone's mind if they were to take up their seats, they would look weak, pleading for something that shouldn't need to be asked for.

In this position, they stand to gain the most, look at the DUP, they expect post Brexit they will get the same funding, most of the north is wondering that. It only takes the loyalist agricultural community (already pissed off over the co-op meat issue), who are heavily propped up by the EU to lose faith that England will protect their interests and a vote on re-joining the Republic will start seeming like an eventuality.

I'll be honest here, I would love to see a United Ireland within my lifetime. I know that seems stupid considering its a money pit, that its saddled with fringe nationalist lunatics on both sides of the scale, I think it's the only road to lasting peace, and for yourselves over in the UK, these bizarre purgatorial situations are less likely to happen

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Cain

You can accuse Gerry Adams of many things, but stupidity would not be the first thing that comes to mind.  He'll play it smart, with the longterm goal in mind.

Cain

No government for at least another week, according to latest reports.  But you know, strong and stable and all that.