UK General Election 8th June: Shake it all about?

[Cain]

Tories screeching about anyone stabbing anyone else in the back is hilarious.  They practically pride themselves on that being the way you climb through the party.

And that's putting aside, you know, the constant leadership race and politicking since Cameron stood down.

[Faust]

Tories screeching about anyone stabbing anyone else in the back is hilarious.  They practically pride themselves on that being the way you climb through the party.

It seems to oscilate between "you owe us, ungrateful uppity bogtrotters", to accusing us of trying to "undermine" the will of the UK by pointing out the side effects of a no deal scenario, which is immediately followed up by threats.

And yeah, the tories seem to be modelled on the roman senate model of treachery as virtue but none of the fun stuff like drunk orgies and bestiality.
Oh. Wait.

[Doktor Howl]

Apologies for stabbing everyone in the back

Bloody Irish! 

[Cain]

"We will have adequate food" is the Brexit dream, apparently.  We've gone a long way from "unleashing the engine of productivity" and "£400 million extra for the NHS every week" to "you will totally probably be able to eat" and "you may see the benefits of independence from the EU within 50 years".

This country is so fucked.

[Doktor Howl]

"We will have adequate food" is the Brexit dream, apparently.  We've gone a long way from "unleashing the engine of productivity" and "£400 million extra for the NHS every week" to "you will totally probably be able to eat" and "you may see the benefits of independence from the EU within 50 years".

This country is so fucked.

Is it too late to un-Brexit?

[Cain]

The EU has said, repeatedly, that we can stop it any time before Article 50 goes into effect on March 29th, 2019.

Naturally, this has led to both of the major parties ruling out ever stopping Brexit under any circumstances because a 2% margin is the will of the people.  If the people willed us to jump off a cliff, we'd have no choice but to do it.

[Faust]

"We will have adequate food" is the Brexit dream, apparently.  We've gone a long way from "unleashing the engine of productivity" and "£400 million extra for the NHS every week" to "you will totally probably be able to eat" and "you may see the benefits of independence from the EU within 50 years".

This country is so fucked.

Yeah, I don't like talking about doomsday scenarios, although that is now the default outcome of no agreement reached. Normally in negotiations if they go stale or reach an impasse you default to the status quo, in this case if everyone fails to agree to an outcome, we all douse ourselves in gasoline and light a match.
Not talking about doomsday aside... It looks like grid of the Republic of Ireland would need to disconnect Northern Ireland in a crash out scenario, as it would be uncontrolled lines attached to a grid with no guarantee at the other side that it will keep system integrity.

NI Cannot power itself, it will all need to come from the north-east interconnect... which results in two outcomes: Rolling blackouts in the whole of the UK or cut NI from the interconnect and deal with the backlash of a first world country in Europe with no power.
Because the best thing for a fragile region with two active opposing terrorist groups, is to put them in total darkness and cut off the phones for the emergency services.

[Doktor Howl]

The EU has said, repeatedly, that we can stop it any time before Article 50 goes into effect on March 29th, 2019.

Naturally, this has led to both of the major parties ruling out ever stopping Brexit under any circumstances because a 2% margin is the will of the people.  If the people willed us to jump off a cliff, we'd have no choice but to do it.

We'll see.  This is like playing chicken with the entire world's economy.

[Cain]

They're more afraid of the hard right than anything else.  It's a persistent theme in UK politics - they'd rather try and please the completely unpleasable knobs of the Daily Mail/Sun editorial team, the 1922 Committee and UKIP than they will take a chance on not fucking over 90% of the country.

Of course that also misses the point that Brexit wont please said knobs because Brexit isn't going to be the panacea they keep promising it is.  It won't be throwing Muslims out of the country, bringing back National Service or making homosexuality illegal again.  And when they realise that, they'll go beserk, regardless of how Brexit turns out.

[Doktor Howl]

They're more afraid of the hard right than anything else.  It's a persistent theme in UK politics - they'd rather try and please the completely unpleasable knobs of the Daily Mail/Sun editorial team, the 1922 Committee and UKIP than they will take a chance on not fucking over 90% of the country.

Of course that also misses the point that Brexit wont please said knobs because Brexit isn't going to be the panacea they keep promising it is.  It won't be throwing Muslims out of the country, bringing back National Service or making homosexuality illegal again.  And when they realise that, they'll go beserk, regardless of how Brexit turns out.

Good times.

[Cain]

There's also a good likelihood of all 3 major parties breaking apart (roughly along pro and anti-Brexit lines - the leader of the Lib Dems was attending a secret meeting about setting up a new centrist party to appeal to both Tory moderates and Labour MPs fed up with Corbyn), at least two constitutional crises and the return of terrorism to Northern Ireland.

Against a backdrop of increasing unemployment and food/medical shortages.  On a state that has suffered 8 years of crippling austerity measures that have, among other things, seen police and military leaving public service in droves.

[Junkenstein]

Are we formally taking bets on the next PM yet then? It's surely getting close to time for May to bail and leave the next sucker to be properly responsible. Can't these people even work out how to leave someone else holding the fucking bag?

Also, resignation rate in strong and shitty gov. is approx .63/week for various incompetence.

Have we had a laugh about Tommy robinson yet? Need to catch up on a few threads.

[Cain]

We've not had a specific laugh on him so far, but on the subject of both him and the next PM, it's worth noting that Bannon is becoming increasingly involved behind the scenes on the UK far right fringe.  Bannon was apparently losing it in an interview for LBC Radio about how this country didn't deserve someone as great as Tommy Robinson and we weren' fit to lick his boots, or words to that effect.  Even Farage was sounding reasonable in comparison, pointing out he had, in fact, committed a crime.

That is important because Bannon is also apparently offering support to none other than Boris Johnson, whose naked desire to become PM, regardless of the circumstances or consequences should be pretty apparent to everyone by now.  There were meetings between the two recently, though the topic of conversation is only speculated upon.

I think Priti Patel may also be considering it.  She's going into retarded campaign mode all of a sudden, trying to crowdfund payment of legal fees to a Tory activist who broke electoral law.  Given the general public apathy over the case, the only reason she could be doing it is to bolster some internal support.

Sajid Javid is also playing the populist card at the Home Office.  Refusing to intervene on the British ISIS detainees held by the Americans and facing the death penalty, ordering research into the ethnicity of "grooming gangs", reviewing and rewriting elements of the Prevent strategy....he's out to prove he will be harder on Islamic extremists than any white racist, and I can only assume this is as a step towards becoming PM.

Jeremy Hunt is also rumoured to have ambitions, for some godawful reason.

[Doktor Howl]

We've not had a specific laugh on him so far, but on the subject of both him and the next PM, it's worth noting that Bannon is becoming increasingly involved behind the scenes on the UK far right fringe.  Bannon was apparently losing it in an interview for LBC Radio about how this country didn't deserve someone as great as Tommy Robinson and we weren' fit to lick his boots, or words to that effect.  Even Farage was sounding reasonable in comparison, pointing out he had, in fact, committed a crime.

STEVE Bannon?

Jesus Christ, dude, chain the cunt to Traitor's Gate and wait for the tide.  Don't delay.

[Cain]

He is a major shareholder in Cambridge Analytica after all, a great British company.  Not to mention all those Brexiteers who credit CA with producing a victory for them...