News:

Not just a bunch of "Trotskyist, car-hating, Hugo Chavez idolising, newt-fancying hypocrites and bendy bus fetishists."

Main Menu

War on Cops

Started by babyjesus, July 08, 2016, 03:00:12 PM

Previous topic - Next topic

East Coast Hustle

Quote from: AIbrdwthulrdy on July 09, 2016, 06:19:48 AM
Quote from: East Coast Hustle on July 09, 2016, 04:15:23 AM
Dude, stop spamming links to zerohedge. I can tell when someone's just trying to drive traffic to a site and I won't tolerate it. Consider this your one warning.

You can't have liberty and security, the two are mutually exclusive.

But you can have liberty and death at once, although only momentarily. Que Sera!

You're a bit dim, aren't you? The two are only mutually exclusive if you rely on someone else for your security.
Rabid Colostomy Hole Jammer of the Coming Apocalypse™

The Devil is in the details; God is in the nuance.


Some yahoo yelled at me, saying 'GIVE ME LIBERTY OR GIVE ME DEATH', and I thought, "I'm feeling generous today.  Why not BOTH?"

babyjesus

Quote from: East Coast Hustle on July 09, 2016, 03:40:42 PM
Quote from: AIbrdwthulrdy on July 09, 2016, 06:19:48 AM
Quote from: East Coast Hustle on July 09, 2016, 04:15:23 AM
Dude, stop spamming links to zerohedge. I can tell when someone's just trying to drive traffic to a site and I won't tolerate it. Consider this your one warning.

You can't have liberty and security, the two are mutually exclusive.

But you can have liberty and death at once, although only momentarily. Que Sera!

You're a bit dim, aren't you? The two are only mutually exclusive if you rely on someone else for your security.

any kind of real security demands that you forfeit some or all liberty.

P3nT4gR4m

#17
There is no "real" security. I'll see your six point locking mechanism and raise you a thermonuclear warhead  :lulz:

I'm up to my arse in Brexit Numpties, but I want more.  Target-rich environments are the new sexy.
Not actually a meat product.
Ass-Kicking & Foot-Stomping Ancient Master of SHIT FUCK FUCK FUCK
Awful and Bent Behemothic Results of Last Night's Painful Squat.
High Altitude Haggis-Filled Sex Bucket From Beyond Time and Space.
Internet Monkey Person of Filthy and Immoral Pygmy-Porn Wart Contagion
Octomom Auxillary Heat Exchanger Repairman
walking the fine line line between genius and batshit fucking crazy

"computation is a pattern in the spacetime arrangement of particles, and it's not the particles but the pattern that really matters! Matter doesn't matter." -- Max Tegmark

POFP

Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on July 09, 2016, 03:59:44 PM
There is no "real" security. I'll see your six point locking mechanism and raise you a thermonuclear warhead  :lulz:

I think he means the nuclear warhead would be a form of security, which of course would be rendered moot by another 100 years of Global Warming, or an asteroid.
This Certified Pope™ reserves the Right to, on occasion, "be a complete dumbass", and otherwise ponder "idiotic" and/or "useless" ideas and other such "tomfoolery." [Aforementioned] are only responsible for the results of these actions and tendencies when they have had their addictive substance of choice for that day.

Being a Product of their Environment's Collective Order and Disorder, [Aforementioned] also reserves the Right to have their ideas, technologies, and otherwise all Intellectual Property stolen, re-purposed, and re-attributed at Will ONLY by other Certified Popes. Corporations, LLC's, and otherwise Capitalist-based organizations are NOT capable of being Certified Popes.

Battering Rams not included.

P3nT4gR4m

Is my point. Security is a degree of scale. There is no absolute. Which kinda fucks with his Liberty for Security theory. Liberty for security may well be the pitch that government inc are making and sure as fuck they'll take their payment in advance but that doesn't make it any less bullshit. I'm with ECH - I got plenty of both, go sell snake oil somewhere else.  8)

I'm up to my arse in Brexit Numpties, but I want more.  Target-rich environments are the new sexy.
Not actually a meat product.
Ass-Kicking & Foot-Stomping Ancient Master of SHIT FUCK FUCK FUCK
Awful and Bent Behemothic Results of Last Night's Painful Squat.
High Altitude Haggis-Filled Sex Bucket From Beyond Time and Space.
Internet Monkey Person of Filthy and Immoral Pygmy-Porn Wart Contagion
Octomom Auxillary Heat Exchanger Repairman
walking the fine line line between genius and batshit fucking crazy

"computation is a pattern in the spacetime arrangement of particles, and it's not the particles but the pattern that really matters! Matter doesn't matter." -- Max Tegmark

babyjesus

Meet the cute little drone that nuked the Dallas sniper:

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-07-09/due-process-drone-was-used-blow-us-citizen-without-trial-week

I love the handle!

If I wonder about this extrajudicial assassination at all I wonder "why a bomb?"

Why not a smoke bomb or pepper spray, or even live wasps released onto the sniper?

I think the answer is pretty simple. DON"T KILL FUCKING COPS!

Cops in the US have always gone after cop killers intending to kill them, rather than take them alive. And they do it manhunt style with all the fixins.

They have to maintain a state monopoly on the use of force.

I fought the law, and the law won. Duh!

Salty

Quote from: AIbrdwthulrdy on July 09, 2016, 06:22:43 PM
ZEROHEDGE ZEROHEDGE ZEROHEDGE ZEROHEDGE ZEROHEDGE ZEROHEDGE ZEROHEDGE ZEROHEDGE ZEROHEDGE ZEROHEDGE ZEROHEDGE ZEROHEDGE ZEROHEDGE ZEROHEDGE ZEROHEDGE ZEROHEDGE ZEROHEDGE ZEROHEDGE ZEROHEDGE ZEROHEDGE ZEROHEDGE ZEROHEDGE ZEROHEDGE ZEROHEDGE ZEROHEDGE ZEROHEDGE ZEROHEDGE ZEROHEDGE ZEROHEDGE ZEROHEDGE ZEROHEDGE ZEROHEDGE ZEROHEDGE ZEROHEDGE ZEROHEDGE ZEROHEDGE ZEROHEDGE ZEROHEDGE ZEROHEDGE ZEROHEDGE ZEROHEDGE ZEROHEDGE
The world is a car and you're the crash test dummy.

babyjesus

Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on July 09, 2016, 06:20:51 PM
Is my point. Security is a degree of scale. There is no absolute. Which kinda fucks with his Liberty for Security theory. Liberty for security may well be the pitch that government inc are making and sure as fuck they'll take their payment in advance but that doesn't make it any less bullshit. I'm with ECH - I got plenty of both, go sell snake oil somewhere else.  8)

actually the fact that there is no absolute security only strengthens my point. But as you progress up any scale of security from 0 to infinity you likewise lose liberty en route.


babyjesus

to put this in perspective:  "We are all Palestinians now", or if you prefer "first they came droning Waziristanians and I said nothing because I wasn't Waziristani"

The ghost of John Belushi is not amused!

Salty

Quote from: AIbrdwthulrdy on July 09, 2016, 06:46:35 PM
to put this in perspective:  ZEROHEDGE ZEROHEDGE ZEROHEDGE ZEROHEDGE ZEROHEDGE ZEROHEDGE ZEROHEDGE ZEROHEDGE ZEROHEDGE ZEROHEDGE ZEROHEDGE ZEROHEDGE ZEROHEDGE ZEROHEDGE ZEROHEDGE ZEROHEDGE ZEROHEDGE ZEROHEDGE ZEROHEDGE ZEROHEDGE ZEROHEDGE ZEROHEDGE ZEROHEDGE ZEROHEDGE ZEROHEDGE ZEROHEDGE ZEROHEDGE ZEROHEDGE ZEROHEDGE ZEROHEDGE ZEROHEDGE ZEROHEDGE ZEROHEDGE ZEROHEDGE ZEROHEDGE ZEROHEDGE ZEROHEDGE ZEROHEDGE ZEROHEDGE ZEROHEDGE ZEROHEDGE ZEROHEDGE
The world is a car and you're the crash test dummy.

Salty

So, do you have *any* thoughts of your own, or do you just regurgitate useless shit *all* the time?
The world is a car and you're the crash test dummy.

Mesozoic Mister Nigel

Will you quit spamming your stupid blog

Nobody cares.
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


Mesozoic Mister Nigel

Quote from: Vivat Alty on July 09, 2016, 06:50:42 PM
So, do you have *any* thoughts of your own, or do you just regurgitate useless shit *all* the time?

I suspect he's one of the stupid authors of the lame blog he keeps spamming links to.
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


POFP

Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on July 09, 2016, 06:20:51 PM
Is my point. Security is a degree of scale. There is no absolute. Which kinda fucks with his Liberty for Security theory. Liberty for security may well be the pitch that government inc are making and sure as fuck they'll take their payment in advance but that doesn't make it any less bullshit. I'm with ECH - I got plenty of both, go sell snake oil somewhere else.  8)

Oh, yes. Sorry, I was specifying a proposed distinction in the first part of my statement, and agreeing with you in the next part. Kinda made it seem like I was disagreeing all the way around.
This Certified Pope™ reserves the Right to, on occasion, "be a complete dumbass", and otherwise ponder "idiotic" and/or "useless" ideas and other such "tomfoolery." [Aforementioned] are only responsible for the results of these actions and tendencies when they have had their addictive substance of choice for that day.

Being a Product of their Environment's Collective Order and Disorder, [Aforementioned] also reserves the Right to have their ideas, technologies, and otherwise all Intellectual Property stolen, re-purposed, and re-attributed at Will ONLY by other Certified Popes. Corporations, LLC's, and otherwise Capitalist-based organizations are NOT capable of being Certified Popes.

Battering Rams not included.

babyjesus

QuoteTwo Houston Police Officers Kill Gunman Who Aimed At Cops While Obama Tries To Talk Down Social Divide

According to ACB13, two Houston officers shot and killed an armed man on the city's south side early this morning. Police says the officers involved were wearing body cameras and they each fired multiple shots.

Houston Police Department officials say the shooting happened on Cullen near Ward around 12:40am. Officers say they saw a man with a revolver standing in the road. There were two officers in one vehicle and they asked the man to put the revolver down. Police say a witness also asked him to drop the weapon. Officers say instead of dropping the gun, the man raised his weapon pointing it in the air. He then lowered it and pointed it at the two officers.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-07-09/latest-shooting-two-houston-police-officers-kill-gunman-who-aimed-gun-cops