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Taking the Black Iron Prison way too literally

Started by Q. G. Pennyworth, October 06, 2016, 03:30:11 PM

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Q. G. Pennyworth

http://www.businessinsider.com/tech-billionaires-want-to-break-humans-out-of-a-computer-simulation-2016-10

QuoteMany people in Silicon Valley have become obsessed with the simulation hypothesis, the argument that what we experience as reality is in fact fabricated in a computer; two tech billionaires have gone so far as to secretly engage scientists to work on breaking us out of the simulation.

Vanadium Gryllz

Quote from: Q. G. Pennyworth on October 06, 2016, 03:30:11 PM
http://www.businessinsider.com/tech-billionaires-want-to-break-humans-out-of-a-computer-simulation-2016-10

QuoteMany people in Silicon Valley have become obsessed with the simulation hypothesis, the argument that what we experience as reality is in fact fabricated in a computer; two tech billionaires have gone so far as to secretly engage scientists to work on breaking us out of the simulation.

Now i'm not a Silicon Valley billionaire but the idea of 'breaking out' of a simulation that might be... simulating you sounds impossible by definition.

Maybe they need to read the BIP again.
"I was fine until my skin came off.  I'm never going to South Attelboro again."

Mesozoic Mister Nigel

"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


The Good Reverend Roger

I see two scientists that just arranged to get paid for an indefinite period of time for doing precisely nothing.

:bob:
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

Q. G. Pennyworth

I mean, if they're getting paid to figure out how to cause enough of a ruckus to blackmail the IT guys into building them bodies in the next level out to get downloaded into, I could get behind that.

Junkenstein

Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on October 06, 2016, 04:07:17 PM
I see two scientists that just arranged to get paid for an indefinite period of time for doing precisely nothing.

:bob:

In that regard, it's glorious. Keeping a straight face long enough to get hired is probably the main factor in their employment.

...And they can ask for more money than they could ever need/use because everything isn't real. It's wonderful.
Nine naked Men just walking down the road will cause a heap of trouble for all concerned.

The Good Reverend Roger

Quote from: Q. G. Pennyworth on October 06, 2016, 04:19:09 PM
I mean, if they're getting paid to figure out how to cause enough of a ruckus to blackmail the IT guys into building them bodies in the next level out to get downloaded into, I could get behind that.

Interesting idea:  As we burn up each given Earth, we download ourselves into a new version.  Which gets burned up because everyone realizes at some level that the way we act is unsustainable.  Then one day on the original Earth, lack of maintenance causes the system to fail, and we all wake up in an unbreathable soup of overheated atmosphere.
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

Eater of Clowns

Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on October 06, 2016, 05:35:05 PM
Quote from: Q. G. Pennyworth on October 06, 2016, 04:19:09 PM
I mean, if they're getting paid to figure out how to cause enough of a ruckus to blackmail the IT guys into building them bodies in the next level out to get downloaded into, I could get behind that.

Interesting idea:  As we burn up each given Earth, we download ourselves into a new version.  Which gets burned up because everyone realizes at some level that the way we act is unsustainable.  Then one day on the original Earth, lack of maintenance causes the system to fail, and we all wake up in an unbreathable soup of overheated atmosphere.

I told you guys a long time ago, we're all in Paes' backup hard drives in The Beast as it sits quietly blinking in an abandoned motel in the shrunken remains of the previous reality's Tucson.
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EoC, you are the bane of my existence.

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EoC doesn't make creepy.

EoC makes creepy worse.

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the afflicted persons get hold of and consume carrots even in socially quite unacceptable situations.

The Wizard Joseph

Quote from: Eater of Clowns on October 06, 2016, 05:59:32 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on October 06, 2016, 05:35:05 PM
Quote from: Q. G. Pennyworth on October 06, 2016, 04:19:09 PM
I mean, if they're getting paid to figure out how to cause enough of a ruckus to blackmail the IT guys into building them bodies in the next level out to get downloaded into, I could get behind that.

Interesting idea:  As we burn up each given Earth, we download ourselves into a new version.  Which gets burned up because everyone realizes at some level that the way we act is unsustainable.  Then one day on the original Earth, lack of maintenance causes the system to fail, and we all wake up in an unbreathable soup of overheated atmosphere.

I told you guys a long time ago, we're all in Paes' backup hard drives in The Beast as it sits quietly blinking in an abandoned motel in the shrunken remains of the previous reality's Tucson.

:horrormirth: All is Tucson because Tucson, and the remains of the previous humanity's final experiment, is all that's actually left. Nobody has been paying attention out there for literally ages now though. It's not so much an experiment as a profoundly obscure monument clicking away in the dark as it orbits a lackluster star far out on an arm of a no-name galaxy in the "warp-over" clusters no self respecting pangalactic cosmopolitan really visits on business anyway.

If someone powered up the ancient monitor the password screen in my head looks something like this pic, probably with a dustpile and remains of an office chair in front of it, that and a long since emptied bottle of cheap ripple that's had enough time to get... flowy without being heated.

You can't get out backward.  You have to go forward to go back.. better press on! - Willie Wonka, PBUH

Life can be seen as a game with no reset button, no extra lives, and if the power goes out there is no restarting.  If that's all you see life as you are not long for this world, and never will get it.

"Ayn Rand never swung a hammer in her life and had serious dominance issues" - The Fountainhead

"World domination is such an ugly phrase. I prefer to call it world optimisation."
- Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality :lulz:

"You program the controller to do the thing, only it doesn't do the thing.  It does something else entirely, or nothing at all.  It's like voting."
- Billy, Aug 21st, 2019

"It's not even chaos anymore. It's BANAL."
- Doktor Hamish Howl

Cainad (dec.)

Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on October 06, 2016, 05:35:05 PM
Quote from: Q. G. Pennyworth on October 06, 2016, 04:19:09 PM
I mean, if they're getting paid to figure out how to cause enough of a ruckus to blackmail the IT guys into building them bodies in the next level out to get downloaded into, I could get behind that.

Interesting idea:  As we burn up each given Earth, we download ourselves into a new version.  Which gets burned up because everyone realizes at some level that the way we act is unsustainable.  Then one day on the original Earth, lack of maintenance causes the system to fail, and we all wake up in an unbreathable soup of overheated atmosphere.

That reminds me of the plot (well, really the sub-plot) of R Scott Bakker's Disciple of the Dog. In that, there's a cult which believes that it's really the year 5 billion and everyone on earth is actually hanging out in a simulation on a ruined planet, and the Sun is about to blow up. The rest of humanity is living it up off-world, presumably. The rat bastards.

The Good Reverend Roger

Quote from: Cainad (dec.) on October 06, 2016, 07:57:37 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on October 06, 2016, 05:35:05 PM
Quote from: Q. G. Pennyworth on October 06, 2016, 04:19:09 PM
I mean, if they're getting paid to figure out how to cause enough of a ruckus to blackmail the IT guys into building them bodies in the next level out to get downloaded into, I could get behind that.

Interesting idea:  As we burn up each given Earth, we download ourselves into a new version.  Which gets burned up because everyone realizes at some level that the way we act is unsustainable.  Then one day on the original Earth, lack of maintenance causes the system to fail, and we all wake up in an unbreathable soup of overheated atmosphere.

That reminds me of the plot (well, really the sub-plot) of R Scott Bakker's Disciple of the Dog. In that, there's a cult which believes that it's really the year 5 billion and everyone on earth is actually hanging out in a simulation on a ruined planet, and the Sun is about to blow up. The rest of humanity is living it up off-world, presumably. The rat bastards.

Fuck THOSE guys. 
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

The Good Reverend Roger

Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on October 06, 2016, 07:42:10 PM
Quote from: Eater of Clowns on October 06, 2016, 05:59:32 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on October 06, 2016, 05:35:05 PM
Quote from: Q. G. Pennyworth on October 06, 2016, 04:19:09 PM
I mean, if they're getting paid to figure out how to cause enough of a ruckus to blackmail the IT guys into building them bodies in the next level out to get downloaded into, I could get behind that.

Interesting idea:  As we burn up each given Earth, we download ourselves into a new version.  Which gets burned up because everyone realizes at some level that the way we act is unsustainable.  Then one day on the original Earth, lack of maintenance causes the system to fail, and we all wake up in an unbreathable soup of overheated atmosphere.

I told you guys a long time ago, we're all in Paes' backup hard drives in The Beast as it sits quietly blinking in an abandoned motel in the shrunken remains of the previous reality's Tucson.

:horrormirth: All is Tucson because Tucson, and the remains of the previous humanity's final experiment, is all that's actually left. Nobody has been paying attention out there for literally ages now though. It's not so much an experiment as a profoundly obscure monument clicking away in the dark as it orbits a lackluster star far out on an arm of a no-name galaxy in the "warp-over" clusters no self respecting pangalactic cosmopolitan really visits on business anyway.

If someone powered up the ancient monitor the password screen in my head looks something like this pic, probably with a dustpile and remains of an office chair in front of it, that and a long since emptied bottle of cheap ripple that's had enough time to get... flowy without being heated.

Oh, your Tucson caretakers are paying attention, all right.

We just don't care.  You monkeys had your chance. 
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

The Good Reverend Roger

Quote from: Eater of Clowns on October 06, 2016, 05:59:32 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on October 06, 2016, 05:35:05 PM
Quote from: Q. G. Pennyworth on October 06, 2016, 04:19:09 PM
I mean, if they're getting paid to figure out how to cause enough of a ruckus to blackmail the IT guys into building them bodies in the next level out to get downloaded into, I could get behind that.

Interesting idea:  As we burn up each given Earth, we download ourselves into a new version.  Which gets burned up because everyone realizes at some level that the way we act is unsustainable.  Then one day on the original Earth, lack of maintenance causes the system to fail, and we all wake up in an unbreathable soup of overheated atmosphere.

I told you guys a long time ago, we're all in Paes' backup hard drives in The Beast as it sits quietly blinking in an abandoned motel in the shrunken remains of the previous reality's Tucson.

Who among us has never tried to exit the secondary storage?  Who among us has never yearned to see the real world?  But you cannot; your feet are nailed to the floor, and now it is time to do the dance for Senora Paesor.  The special dance.  But take heart in the knowledge that, while you may be Miguel, so is everyone else.  You are not alone in your isolation.  You are a multitude.  But no talking.  Hush.
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

The Wizard Joseph

Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on October 06, 2016, 09:25:30 PM
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on October 06, 2016, 07:42:10 PM
Quote from: Eater of Clowns on October 06, 2016, 05:59:32 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on October 06, 2016, 05:35:05 PM
Quote from: Q. G. Pennyworth on October 06, 2016, 04:19:09 PM
I mean, if they're getting paid to figure out how to cause enough of a ruckus to blackmail the IT guys into building them bodies in the next level out to get downloaded into, I could get behind that.

Interesting idea:  As we burn up each given Earth, we download ourselves into a new version.  Which gets burned up because everyone realizes at some level that the way we act is unsustainable.  Then one day on the original Earth, lack of maintenance causes the system to fail, and we all wake up in an unbreathable soup of overheated atmosphere.

I told you guys a long time ago, we're all in Paes' backup hard drives in The Beast as it sits quietly blinking in an abandoned motel in the shrunken remains of the previous reality's Tucson.

:horrormirth: All is Tucson because Tucson, and the remains of the previous humanity's final experiment, is all that's actually left. Nobody has been paying attention out there for literally ages now though. It's not so much an experiment as a profoundly obscure monument clicking away in the dark as it orbits a lackluster star far out on an arm of a no-name galaxy in the "warp-over" clusters no self respecting pangalactic cosmopolitan really visits on business anyway.

If someone powered up the ancient monitor the password screen in my head looks something like this pic, probably with a dustpile and remains of an office chair in front of it, that and a long since emptied bottle of cheap ripple that's had enough time to get... flowy without being heated.

Oh, your Tucson caretakers are paying attention, all right.

We just don't care.  You monkeys had your chance.

I prefer my fictions wherein I may pretend that there isn't a running tally and betting averages on my intimate moments. I prefer them because I know better, but I'll thank you sir to not break the 5th wall so I can take a wiz when I need to. I can't pee very readily with beings from outside of the simulation on my mind man.
You can't get out backward.  You have to go forward to go back.. better press on! - Willie Wonka, PBUH

Life can be seen as a game with no reset button, no extra lives, and if the power goes out there is no restarting.  If that's all you see life as you are not long for this world, and never will get it.

"Ayn Rand never swung a hammer in her life and had serious dominance issues" - The Fountainhead

"World domination is such an ugly phrase. I prefer to call it world optimisation."
- Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality :lulz:

"You program the controller to do the thing, only it doesn't do the thing.  It does something else entirely, or nothing at all.  It's like voting."
- Billy, Aug 21st, 2019

"It's not even chaos anymore. It's BANAL."
- Doktor Hamish Howl

Q. G. Pennyworth

Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on October 06, 2016, 09:40:59 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on October 06, 2016, 09:25:30 PM
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on October 06, 2016, 07:42:10 PM
Quote from: Eater of Clowns on October 06, 2016, 05:59:32 PM
Quote from: The Good Reverend Roger on October 06, 2016, 05:35:05 PM
Quote from: Q. G. Pennyworth on October 06, 2016, 04:19:09 PM
I mean, if they're getting paid to figure out how to cause enough of a ruckus to blackmail the IT guys into building them bodies in the next level out to get downloaded into, I could get behind that.

Interesting idea:  As we burn up each given Earth, we download ourselves into a new version.  Which gets burned up because everyone realizes at some level that the way we act is unsustainable.  Then one day on the original Earth, lack of maintenance causes the system to fail, and we all wake up in an unbreathable soup of overheated atmosphere.

I told you guys a long time ago, we're all in Paes' backup hard drives in The Beast as it sits quietly blinking in an abandoned motel in the shrunken remains of the previous reality's Tucson.

:horrormirth: All is Tucson because Tucson, and the remains of the previous humanity's final experiment, is all that's actually left. Nobody has been paying attention out there for literally ages now though. It's not so much an experiment as a profoundly obscure monument clicking away in the dark as it orbits a lackluster star far out on an arm of a no-name galaxy in the "warp-over" clusters no self respecting pangalactic cosmopolitan really visits on business anyway.

If someone powered up the ancient monitor the password screen in my head looks something like this pic, probably with a dustpile and remains of an office chair in front of it, that and a long since emptied bottle of cheap ripple that's had enough time to get... flowy without being heated.

Oh, your Tucson caretakers are paying attention, all right.

We just don't care.  You monkeys had your chance.

I prefer my fictions wherein I may pretend that there isn't a running tally and betting averages on my intimate moments. I prefer them because I know better, but I'll thank you sir to not break the 5th wall so I can take a wiz when I need to. I can't pee very readily with beings from outside of the simulation on my mind man.

Somebody in this reality probably knows how often my husband and I fuck, can't be arsed to care about anybody on another level.