General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread

[Doktor Howl]

I don't want people to suffer "to teach them a lesson". I just want them to suffer.

Then this is your time, and our nation is doing the work of the angels.

[Doktor Howl]

Francisco Goya was right.

"I have now established myself in a most enviable manner. Those who require something of me must seek me out - I remain apart. I work for no one unless he is a high-ranking personality or a friend."

[LMNO]

http://www.richardharrisartcollection.com/portfolio-view/francisco-goya-2/

[Doktor Howl]

http://www.richardharrisartcollection.com/portfolio-view/francisco-goya-2/

Well, yes.  The act of brutalizing someone always brutalizes more than one person, because the person doing it is brutalized as well.

[Doktor Howl]

On the flip side, you have Elin Ersson, a name worth googling today.

[LMNO]

Wow.  That takes some considerable strength.

[Doktor Howl]

Wow.  That takes some considerable strength.

Yes, it does.  Fortunately, she lives in a semi-civilized nation.  If she did it here, she'd never be seen again.

[Doktor Howl]

And then this.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/trump-pushes-25-percent-auto-tariff-as-top-advisers-scramble-to-stop-him/2018/07/25/f7b9af04-8f8a-11e8-8322-b5482bf5e0f5_story.html?utm_term=.98203f83d420

[chaotic neutral observer]

It should be a capital offense to own, operate, work at, or view from afar any farm that isn't a 100+ story self-sufficient solar-powered skyscraper using the latest in hydroponic technology.

Since solar power scales with area, and power usage scales with volume (proportional to the height of the skyscraper), this seems counter-intuitive.  What numbers are you using in your power budget that gets you to 100 stories?

I have a sizable vegetable garden, and rent out two quarters of land.  I'd rather not be killed over an engineering error.

[Doktor Howl]

It should be a capital offense to own, operate, work at, or view from afar any farm that isn't a 100+ story self-sufficient solar-powered skyscraper using the latest in hydroponic technology.

Since solar power scales with area, and power usage scales with volume (proportional to the height of the skyscraper), this seems counter-intuitive.  What numbers are you using in your power budget that gets you to 100 stories?

I have a sizable vegetable garden, and rent out two quarters of land.  I'd rather not be killed over an engineering error.

The great thing about tiny veggie farming is that we used leaded gasoline for 70 years.  The exhaust fumes fade away in seconds, but the lead residue is forever.

Also, if you're going to build giant farm arcologies, you use nuclear power, because the waste heat is just as valuable as the electricity, and you already have a giant goddamn water supply for the reactor.

[Faust]

It should be a capital offense to own, operate, work at, or view from afar any farm that isn't a 100+ story self-sufficient solar-powered skyscraper using the latest in hydroponic technology.

Since solar power scales with area, and power usage scales with volume (proportional to the height of the skyscraper), this seems counter-intuitive.  What numbers are you using in your power budget that gets you to 100 stories?

I have a sizable vegetable garden, and rent out two quarters of land.  I'd rather not be killed over an engineering error.

I think the idea is that you get better efficiency of use of resources when everything is laid out in a grid resourced over multiple levels, water distribution from top down, etc. The energyfoot print for 100 stories would be large but four story farms with solar on the top can be much more efficient then the same over a plateau.
100% solar powered farms are not likely to be efficient though, and the grid isn't ready to adapt to that because we don't have great energy storage and solar and wind result in reduced inertia on the grid, meaning the frequency can deviate more easily, low frequency results in brown or black outs, high frequency make transformer go boom.
I agree with more efficient use of space and resources for farms and supporting them with solar, combined heat and power, gas from pig shit and so on, solar alone isn't the magic wand.

[chaotic neutral observer]

My main issue was with powering 100 stories purely from solar.  Four stories worth seems more in the range of common sense.  It's not as if conventional agriculture has a 100x sunlight surplus.

A nuclear-powered arcology might be a good way to proceed if we ever need to colonize Antarctica...

[minuspace]

Re: 4 story Farm- "Suns in Rowses" — or, "Growing upside Down"

Instead of building four vertical floors of solar-powered "greenhouse", there would be horizontal arrays of staggered 'axels'. Each axel would carry four sets of crop lengthwise, at 90deg. from each other round the axel's circumference. The placement of plants is staggered to allow free rotation of each axel w.r.t. the one's next to it. If plants vary in size sufficiently, the axel array itself can be arranged in circular manner. Space between axels is for solar panels powering LEDs for non top-side plants. Low-tech alternative uses mirrors, and axels turned by hand crank.

[rong]

on the subject of sun harnessing technology I thought I'd share this cuz it's kinda neat

words and pictures

a video

[Prelate Diogenes Shandor]

The foreigners didn't vote for Trump. Even if they would have they didn't.

And we don't yet have the technology to replace tham all with machines (although hopefully that day will come soon)

You could easily be replaced with a predictive text generator.  Just to teach you a lesson or two, mind you.

Correction. I could be replaced with a Coke machine. Because my day job is retrieving bottles from numbered locations in a warehouse