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Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
« Reply #4335 on: November 13, 2020, 09:01:12 pm »
Forty bucks goes quickly these days!
But you can definitely make a case for taking something from it.
The simple folk in the red team have been getting ready to throw down for a long time.
They see what's going on as a literal attack on their lives.  They're scared shitless.

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Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
« Reply #4336 on: November 13, 2020, 09:05:54 pm »
The simple folk in the red team have been getting ready to throw down for a long time.

That is because they still believe the Rambo mythos, and they believe that their tacticool bullshit would be effective.  Or that their rifles would be.

They are 30 years behind the curve.

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Life is sometimes difficult and they should consider wearing a hat.
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Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
« Reply #4337 on: November 13, 2020, 09:55:22 pm »
Yeah.  Red dawn vibes run strong in many.  But I wouldn't dismiss the possibility that a not insignificant number have more of a guerilla war outlook that actually can be effective against overwhelming conventional forces.

They're not all just harmless yokels, and I think it's a mistake to think so.  They're dangerous, even if they only have puny assault weapons.

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« Reply #4338 on: November 13, 2020, 10:38:38 pm »
Now that I think about it, It more than likely has something to do with the start of deer season. I haven't heard anything in the last couple of days.

I'm more worried about all the various neo-fascist groups headed to DC where there are tens of thousands of people out on the streets celebrating Trump's defeat.

https://www.splcenter.org/hatewatch/2020/11/12/far-right-extremists-heading-washington-amid-talk-trump-coup
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Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
« Reply #4339 on: November 14, 2020, 04:47:37 am »
Yeah.  Red dawn vibes run strong in many.  But I wouldn't dismiss the possibility that a not insignificant number have more of a guerilla war outlook that actually can be effective against overwhelming conventional forces.

They're not all just harmless yokels, and I think it's a mistake to think so.  They're dangerous, even if they only have puny assault weapons.

I'm in a position to know that any number of clever bastards with rifles would be cat meat inside of a week.

Tech has really changed in the last 3 years.
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Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
« Reply #4340 on: November 14, 2020, 12:07:59 pm »
Yeah.  Red dawn vibes run strong in many.  But I wouldn't dismiss the possibility that a not insignificant number have more of a guerilla war outlook that actually can be effective against overwhelming conventional forces.

They're not all just harmless yokels, and I think it's a mistake to think so.  They're dangerous, even if they only have puny assault weapons.

I'm in a position to know that any number of clever bastards with rifles would be cat meat inside of a week.

Tech has really changed in the last 3 years.


Hell, it was like that back when I was in high school, back then I was all like, fite the powa, blah blah, and one of my better teachers, this old black man, pulled me aside and was like "Boy, I was once in the military, you know what would happen to you if you even got anywhere with that shit? It'd be ugly, they have mortars, missiles. They will sooner destroy your whole town..."

EDIT: You're right though. Nowdays there's even fewer places to hide, drone strikes etc. You just can't compete with that sort of resource machine with your puny rifle unless you're willing to commit for the long haul, and there are no gaurentees you won't be dead as dirt before the real shit goes down.
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Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
« Reply #4341 on: November 14, 2020, 12:35:54 pm »
Besides the tech, there's also three other things people forget:

1) the advantages most foreign insurgent groups have against the US, of coming from a different language and culture (which makes infiltration for the purposes of gathering intelligence much harder) and knowing the territory much better than the invading forces will not apply.

2) the US isn't heavily invested in what happens in foreign countries with contrast to the USA. They will expend far more resources and act far more harshly to quell violence in the interior, because it's infinitely more dangerous.

3) the US won't be seeking to negotiate a settlement with rebels. Rebels are, by their nature, de jure illegitimate forces attempting to overthrow the authorities. Sure, they say the same about terrorists, but they're willing to negotiate there and we all know it. Rebels will hang. That means they'll be tending towards total war, the elimination of enemy forces and breaking their ability to fight at all, to serve as an example to their sympathizers.

You can't really look to performance in Iraq, Afghanistan etc to predict outcomes here because of these factors.

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Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
« Reply #4342 on: November 14, 2020, 04:04:33 pm »
There's no way a rebel uprising would succeed in overthrowing the government unless they had a significant number of defectors from within the military and civilian police forces, way more than three percent.

If three percent of the adult population, about ten million people, suddenly went all domestic terrorist on us, it would be one hell of a mess, though. Even just a hundred thousand of them would be pretty inconvenient.

I think a war of passive aggression is more likely; people letting the Freon out of the local Democrat HQ HVAC, a little light arson here and there, etc... One of those armed protests getting out of hand doesn't seem that unlikely.

Actual armed takeover of the United states by a band of Boogaloo Bubbas is pure fantasy.
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Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
« Reply #4343 on: November 14, 2020, 06:32:04 pm »
The scary thing is a lot of police unions endorsed Trump, and an unknown, non-zero number in the military believe in him. Might not get enough to claim victory but could potentially get enough to cause some real havok. Hopefully it's just the passive-aggressive shit you spoke of.

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Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
« Reply #4345 on: November 14, 2020, 11:40:29 pm »
Beau of the Fifth Column has besn a fave of mine for a while. He's a nearly seraphic straight shooter and fine analyst. This is more on the subject of WHY a military coup is unlikley in the extreme. Kinda put my mind at ease a bit. Not a lot. Just enough to take the edge off slightly.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=yb2iRT6BU34
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Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
« Reply #4346 on: November 15, 2020, 01:02:57 am »
I've been hoping for a while that one of his generals would just snap his neck. I mean, I didn't have much hope that would happen, but it's a nice thought.

That would be a coup.  Not the worst possible thing, but still not great.

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Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
« Reply #4347 on: November 15, 2020, 07:26:27 am »
I've been hoping for a while that one of his generals would just snap his neck. I mean, I didn't have much hope that would happen, but it's a nice thought.

That would be a coup.  Not the worst possible thing, but still not great.

But is it really stealing if you're stealing from a thief, as the saying goes.
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« Reply #4348 on: November 15, 2020, 09:33:27 am »
Beau of the Fifth Column has besn a fave of mine for a while. He's a nearly seraphic straight shooter and fine analyst. This is more on the subject of WHY a military coup is unlikley in the extreme. Kinda put my mind at ease a bit. Not a lot. Just enough to take the edge off slightly.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=yb2iRT6BU34

Thats really nice, because the last thing i want to do right now is starting to learn chinese to welcome our new alien overlords, from the resulting power vacuum.
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Re: General Trump hilarity free-for-all thread
« Reply #4349 on: November 15, 2020, 04:22:41 pm »
Thanks for that Joseph, it set my mind at ease some. Dude seems pretty cool.