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Started by Mesozoic Mister Nigel, November 22, 2016, 04:26:22 PM

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Cain

Another part of the Steele dossier was confirmed today, btw.  Steele named a Russian spy at the US embassy operating under diplomatic cover as an economic adviser or something. 

Steele said this thing had been years in the planning.  Worth keeping in mind, given his track record thus far.

Cain

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-03-30/fbi-agents-visit-office-of-saipan-casino-run-by-trump-protege?cmpid=socialflow-twitter-business&utm_content=business&utm_campaign=socialflow-organic&utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social

QuoteAgents from the U.S. Federal Bureau of Investigation visited an office belonging to the operator of a casino on the remote U.S. island of Saipan that has attracted attention for its huge revenues, according to a local legislator and residents.

FBI personnel, accompanied by uniformed police officers, arrived Thursday morning at a local office used by Imperial Pacific International Holdings Ltd., the Hong Kong-based company that owns the Best Sunshine Live casino, local residents said. They stayed for several hours, with local police blocking access to the building.

QuoteIts board members include James Woolsey, who ran the U.S. Central Intelligence Agency in the early 1990s and was among national-security advisers to Trump's presidential campaign. Former FBI director Louis Freeh and Ed Rendell, a former Pennsylvania governor and Democratic National Committee chairman, sit on an advisory committee, as does Haley Barbour, the ex-Mississippi governor and Republican National Committee chairman who's now a prominent lobbyist.

Mesozoic Mister Nigel

Quote from: Cain on March 31, 2017, 03:02:33 AM
Besides, unless Flynn has gold standard, absolutely undeniable proof, the FBI aren't going to touch this offer.  They might see what he has to say.  But unless he can spill the beans on everything and offer up Trump on a silver platter, then he's not going to be taken up on his offer.

The FBI has to build a case without appearing to be targeting the President, unless they have something really fantastically credible to work with.  When you come at the king, you best not miss.  Flynn will be dismissed as "that guy who got fired by the President for lying" and his testimony will be tainted by that.

Thanks for this perspective, I will be interested in your take as things progress. Maaaan, to be a fly on the wall at the FBI right now!
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


Aucoq

Quote from: http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2017/03/what-george-w-bush-really-thought-of-trumps-inauguration.htmlThe inauguration of Donald Trump was a surreal experience for pretty much everyone who witnessed it, whether or not they were at the event and regardless of who they supported in the election. On the dais, the stoic presence of Hillary Clinton — whom candidate Trump had said he would send to prison if he took office — underlined the strangeness of the moment. George W. Bush, also savaged by Trump during the campaign, was there too. He gave the same reason for attending that Bill and Hillary Clinton did: to honor the peaceful transfer of power.

Bush's endearing struggle with his poncho at the event quickly became a meme, prompting many Democrats on social media to admit that they already pined for the relative normalcy of his administration. Following Trump's short and dire speech, Bush departed the scene and never offered public comment on the ceremony.

But, according to three people who were present, Bush gave a brief assessment of Trump's inaugural after leaving the dais: "That was some weird shit." All three heard him say it.
"All of the world's leading theologists agree only on the notion that God hates no-fault insurance."

Horrid and Sticky Llama Wrangler of Last Week's Forbidden Desire.

Cain

Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on March 31, 2017, 04:13:14 AM
Quote from: Cain on March 31, 2017, 03:02:33 AM
Besides, unless Flynn has gold standard, absolutely undeniable proof, the FBI aren't going to touch this offer.  They might see what he has to say.  But unless he can spill the beans on everything and offer up Trump on a silver platter, then he's not going to be taken up on his offer.

The FBI has to build a case without appearing to be targeting the President, unless they have something really fantastically credible to work with.  When you come at the king, you best not miss.  Flynn will be dismissed as "that guy who got fired by the President for lying" and his testimony will be tainted by that.

Thanks for this perspective, I will be interested in your take as things progress. Maaaan, to be a fly on the wall at the FBI right now!

I think this is going to be a long, drawn out and weird process.  And when it breaks, much like Watergate, it will be more for the coverup than for the crime.

Mesozoic Mister Nigel

Quote from: Aucoq on March 31, 2017, 06:26:59 AM
Quote from: http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2017/03/what-george-w-bush-really-thought-of-trumps-inauguration.htmlThe inauguration of Donald Trump was a surreal experience for pretty much everyone who witnessed it, whether or not they were at the event and regardless of who they supported in the election. On the dais, the stoic presence of Hillary Clinton — whom candidate Trump had said he would send to prison if he took office — underlined the strangeness of the moment. George W. Bush, also savaged by Trump during the campaign, was there too. He gave the same reason for attending that Bill and Hillary Clinton did: to honor the peaceful transfer of power.

Bush's endearing struggle with his poncho at the event quickly became a meme, prompting many Democrats on social media to admit that they already pined for the relative normalcy of his administration. Following Trump's short and dire speech, Bush departed the scene and never offered public comment on the ceremony.

But, according to three people who were present, Bush gave a brief assessment of Trump's inaugural after leaving the dais: "That was some weird shit." All three heard him say it.

I like to think of W finally finding peace and contentment as an artist, having long given up on obtaining approval from  his father.
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


The Good Reverend Roger

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory/michael-flynn-talks-congress-wary-prosecution-46484973

QuoteFlynn seemed to have a different view last September when he weighed in on the implications of immunity on NBC's "Meet the Press," criticizing Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton and her associates in the FBI's investigation into her use of a private email server.

"When you are given immunity, that means that you have probably committed a crime," Flynn said during the interview.

:lulz:
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

LMNO

Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on March 31, 2017, 11:04:46 PM
Quote from: Aucoq on March 31, 2017, 06:26:59 AM
Quote from: http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2017/03/what-george-w-bush-really-thought-of-trumps-inauguration.htmlThe inauguration of Donald Trump was a surreal experience for pretty much everyone who witnessed it, whether or not they were at the event and regardless of who they supported in the election. On the dais, the stoic presence of Hillary Clinton — whom candidate Trump had said he would send to prison if he took office — underlined the strangeness of the moment. George W. Bush, also savaged by Trump during the campaign, was there too. He gave the same reason for attending that Bill and Hillary Clinton did: to honor the peaceful transfer of power.

Bush's endearing struggle with his poncho at the event quickly became a meme, prompting many Democrats on social media to admit that they already pined for the relative normalcy of his administration. Following Trump's short and dire speech, Bush departed the scene and never offered public comment on the ceremony.

But, according to three people who were present, Bush gave a brief assessment of Trump's inaugural after leaving the dais: "That was some weird shit." All three heard him say it.

I like to think of W finally finding peace and contentment as an artist, having long given up on obtaining approval from  his father.

W was president when a lot of really bad shit happened, so he's got to own it.

That being said, Nigel just came up with the most heartrending epiloge any tribute could have.

tyrannosaurus vex

W seems like a cuddly, half-drunk teddy bear in his elder years. I'm sure he's a nice guy. Even a good guy, at least compared to the monster he was portrayed as being while he was President. It's nice to see him come to terms with at least some of the suffering he caused, even if it's only for the hero class on our side of our various pointless wars. I don't blame him as the mastermind of the shitty parts of modern history, because I think he has always basically been a frat bro who's in over his head. Maybe I blame him for taking the highest office and then failing to be the kind of person who could actually wield that power with grace or effectiveness. He did a better job than I would have done I'm sure, given the things that happened on his watch that were out of anyone's control, but then I never would have wanted to be President anyway.
Evil and Unfeeling Arse-Flenser From The City of the Damned.

The Good Reverend Roger

Quote from: tyrannosaurus vex on April 01, 2017, 07:34:38 AM
W seems like a cuddly, half-drunk teddy bear in his elder years. I'm sure he's a nice guy. Even a good guy, at least compared to the monster he was portrayed as being while he was President. It's nice to see him come to terms with at least some of the suffering he caused, even if it's only for the hero class on our side of our various pointless wars. I don't blame him as the mastermind of the shitty parts of modern history, because I think he has always basically been a frat bro who's in over his head. Maybe I blame him for taking the highest office and then failing to be the kind of person who could actually wield that power with grace or effectiveness. He did a better job than I would have done I'm sure, given the things that happened on his watch that were out of anyone's control, but then I never would have wanted to be President anyway.

He started two wars for no good reason at all.

I haven't forgotten.
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

tyrannosaurus vex

Quote from: Captain Pike on April 01, 2017, 08:24:05 AM
Quote from: tyrannosaurus vex on April 01, 2017, 07:34:38 AM
W seems like a cuddly, half-drunk teddy bear in his elder years. I'm sure he's a nice guy. Even a good guy, at least compared to the monster he was portrayed as being while he was President. It's nice to see him come to terms with at least some of the suffering he caused, even if it's only for the hero class on our side of our various pointless wars. I don't blame him as the mastermind of the shitty parts of modern history, because I think he has always basically been a frat bro who's in over his head. Maybe I blame him for taking the highest office and then failing to be the kind of person who could actually wield that power with grace or effectiveness. He did a better job than I would have done I'm sure, given the things that happened on his watch that were out of anyone's control, but then I never would have wanted to be President anyway.

He started two wars for no good reason at all.

I haven't forgotten.

For sure. He was a terrible president, there's no doubt about that. Worse than terrible. I'm not denying that, or that the bugger has gotten off way too easy and to see him wind up as giggly old artist seems too good for him. But I don't think he was ever "evil", he was just incompetent and surrounded by lots of people with wills stronger than his who were more driven than he was. I don't know the man so I might be way off base, but it seems to me that 9/11 threw more at him than he was ready to take, and he reactive viciously and with too much reliance on familiar advisers who happened to also be war hawks, out of desperation to not be seen as fumbling "our generation's greatest challenge". He's as susceptible to viewing the world through a filter as anyone else is, and his filter was all Us vs. Them and Conservative Values™. It doesn't make any of the horrible shit he did "right", but I'm not sure he was personally capable of doing anything differently. In his art we at least see a recognition of the turmoil he caused in some lives, even if it's only the "hero" class, and comes at the exclusion of everyone else his administration harmed (in many ways worse) both domestically and abroad. He'll never be a Jimmy Carter, for sure.
Evil and Unfeeling Arse-Flenser From The City of the Damned.

Cain

One of the most evil things about Trump's presidency is how he has normalised George W Bush by comparison.

Faust

There doesn't even appear to be any attempt to conceal the fact any more:
Flynn offers to testify about Trumps Russian links, the very next day Wikileaks releases the CIA trove showing how they attempted to frame groups.
Sleepless nights at the chateau

Junkenstein

Quote from: Captain Pike on April 01, 2017, 08:24:05 AM
Quote from: tyrannosaurus vex on April 01, 2017, 07:34:38 AM
W seems like a cuddly, half-drunk teddy bear in his elder years. I'm sure he's a nice guy. Even a good guy, at least compared to the monster he was portrayed as being while he was President. It's nice to see him come to terms with at least some of the suffering he caused, even if it's only for the hero class on our side of our various pointless wars. I don't blame him as the mastermind of the shitty parts of modern history, because I think he has always basically been a frat bro who's in over his head. Maybe I blame him for taking the highest office and then failing to be the kind of person who could actually wield that power with grace or effectiveness. He did a better job than I would have done I'm sure, given the things that happened on his watch that were out of anyone's control, but then I never would have wanted to be President anyway.

He started two wars for no good reason at all.

I haven't forgotten.

Two wars that the UK/USA lost, which directly raised more terrorism world wide. The "lost" part never seems to get mentioned.

I can't wait to see what concept idiot chooses to wage war against. At the moment it seems to be a war on truth and/or facts.
Nine naked Men just walking down the road will cause a heap of trouble for all concerned.

Cramulus

I haven't forgotten how much the Bush presidency sucked, not at all;
but now that the wars are over, I think there's something cathartic about seeing him now, just a charming old retired man.

People always go "I don't know who's scarier, Pence or Trump"... I think Trump is scarier by an order of magnitude. Traditional politicians, like Bush or Pence, play by a known set of rules. I mean, say what you will about Bush, but at his core, he wasn't motivated by vanity or petty vindictiveness the way Trump is. I knew on some level that Bush would never actually press the big red button. Pence is capable of reading a 10 page document. Weird how comforting "the evil you know" can be.