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I just don't understand any kind of absolute egalitarianism philosophy. Whether it's branded as anarcho-capitalism or straight anarchism or sockfucking libertarianism, it always misses the same point.

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Started by Mesozoic Mister Nigel, November 22, 2016, 04:26:22 PM

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Doktor Howl

Quote from: Cain on August 25, 2020, 06:35:11 PM
I mean, it seems to be a theme with the speakers so far.

Yeah, wossname, Guiylford or whatever, was just a tad carried away.
Molon Lube

Cain

Not to mention the "dying of bone cancer to avoid affordable care to own the libs" lady.

The Johnny


Although I get most of my news from memes, it was truly funny that 6 out of 12 speakers had the last name Trump. Nepotism where?
<<My image in some places, is of a monster of some kind who wants to pull a string and manipulate people. Nothing could be further from the truth. People are manipulated; I just want them to be manipulated more effectively.>>

-B.F. Skinner

altered

Everything I hear about this makes it sound more and more like the product of a truly diseased mind. Some shit that I wish I had been on the planning for.

"Don Jr. on coke? Why the fuck would you not give him the good meth instead?! You're the government, load him up on Ritalin and rancid Crunchwrap Supremes. His ass will honk like a goose and he'll start pointing at imaginary spies, it'll be great."

"Yeah bone cancer lady is good but we should really contact the dude who shot his dick off instead: that's a hell of a lot of dedication. We can tie it into the transphobic messaging, too, I'm not sure how but just give it to the evangelicals and they'll tell you what to do."
"I am that worst of all type of criminal...I cannot bring myself to do what you tell me, because you told me."

There's over 100 of us in this meat-suit. You'd think it runs like a ship, but it's more like a hundred and ten angry ghosts having an old-school QuakeWorld tournament, three people desperately trying to make sure the gamers don't go hungry or soil themselves, and the Facilities manager weeping in the corner as the garbage piles high.

POFP

Who had money on QAnon's website being hosted on the same server as 8Chan, which was known for facilitating the trafficking of child porn?

Site is owned by Jim Watkins, the 8Chan Site owner.
This Certified Pope™ reserves the Right to, on occasion, "be a complete dumbass", and otherwise ponder "idiotic" and/or "useless" ideas and other such "tomfoolery." [Aforementioned] are only responsible for the results of these actions and tendencies when they have had their addictive substance of choice for that day.

Being a Product of their Environment's Collective Order and Disorder, [Aforementioned] also reserves the Right to have their ideas, technologies, and otherwise all Intellectual Property stolen, re-purposed, and re-attributed at Will ONLY by other Certified Popes. Corporations, LLC's, and otherwise Capitalist-based organizations are NOT capable of being Certified Popes.

Battering Rams not included.

Cain

Ahem

Quote from: Cain on August 22, 2020, 12:17:16 AM
Q could be Jim Watkins, owner of 8kun. He could be a Falun Gong member (their websites have heavily pushed Qanon content), seeking to have American evangelical insanity take down China. He could be a Russian FSB cyber disinfo program gone wildly right, at least from the FSB's point of view. Any combination of these could be correct, as all three have vested interests in not just being Q, but amplifying Q's message.

chaotic neutral observer

As far as I can tell, that IP address is in Vancouver, Washington, not Australia.

It seems to be assigned to Vanwatech, an anti DDOS service provider, whose owner, Nick Lim, has also provided services to the likes of the Daily Stormer.
https://www.columbian.com/news/2019/nov/07/8chan-back-online-under-the-name-8kun/

This is evidence that 8chan and Q use the same morality-unimpaired CDN, but I'm not sure that it proves much more than that.
Desine fata deum flecti sperare precando.

Elder Iptuous

I don't know anything about them, but just giving a speech platform to anyone, including those with despicable ideas makes a free speech absolutist, but I don't think I would say immoral actor.
Do they host only rotten sites?

POFP

Quote from: Cain on August 26, 2020, 10:54:01 PM
Ahem

Quote from: Cain on August 22, 2020, 12:17:16 AM
Q could be Jim Watkins, owner of 8kun. He could be a Falun Gong member (their websites have heavily pushed Qanon content), seeking to have American evangelical insanity take down China. He could be a Russian FSB cyber disinfo program gone wildly right, at least from the FSB's point of view. Any combination of these could be correct, as all three have vested interests in not just being Q, but amplifying Q's message.



Well, if the owner and Q are the same person.




Quote from: chaotic neutral observer on August 26, 2020, 10:55:25 PM
As far as I can tell, that IP address is in Vancouver, Washington, not Australia.

It seems to be assigned to Vanwatech, an anti DDOS service provider, whose owner, Nick Lim, has also provided services to the likes of the Daily Stormer.
https://www.columbian.com/news/2019/nov/07/8chan-back-online-under-the-name-8kun/

This is evidence that 8chan and Q use the same morality-unimpaired CDN, but I'm not sure that it proves much more than that.

Ah, good catch. The only service that provided a decent Reverse DNS on the IP was that robtex.com website, and it happened to also give a predicted location of Australia. For whatever reason, I didn't really question it.

The fact that the Reverse DNS on that site only returned the 3 sites Jim Watkins is responsible for makes me think that that IP is dedicated based on the customer. Now, I don't know for certain what DNS Servers they were using for that reverse lookup, but most of the public ones don't seem to have PTR entries for this address, so we could be looking at VERY limited results. Is it conclusive/proven? No, of course not.

Does it seem likely that Jim used the same anti-DDOS Provider to provide the public facing IP for all 3 of these websites like a dumbass? Big time.

IMO, at least.
This Certified Pope™ reserves the Right to, on occasion, "be a complete dumbass", and otherwise ponder "idiotic" and/or "useless" ideas and other such "tomfoolery." [Aforementioned] are only responsible for the results of these actions and tendencies when they have had their addictive substance of choice for that day.

Being a Product of their Environment's Collective Order and Disorder, [Aforementioned] also reserves the Right to have their ideas, technologies, and otherwise all Intellectual Property stolen, re-purposed, and re-attributed at Will ONLY by other Certified Popes. Corporations, LLC's, and otherwise Capitalist-based organizations are NOT capable of being Certified Popes.

Battering Rams not included.

POFP

Quote from: Elder Iptuous on August 26, 2020, 11:37:15 PM
I don't know anything about them, but just giving a speech platform to anyone, including those with despicable ideas makes a free speech absolutist, but I don't think I would say immoral actor.
Do they host only rotten sites?

This lists the sites they currently host: https://ipinfo.io/AS398088/203.28.246.0/24

All seem shitty at first glance. Some of the Hostnames are bunk though.
This Certified Pope™ reserves the Right to, on occasion, "be a complete dumbass", and otherwise ponder "idiotic" and/or "useless" ideas and other such "tomfoolery." [Aforementioned] are only responsible for the results of these actions and tendencies when they have had their addictive substance of choice for that day.

Being a Product of their Environment's Collective Order and Disorder, [Aforementioned] also reserves the Right to have their ideas, technologies, and otherwise all Intellectual Property stolen, re-purposed, and re-attributed at Will ONLY by other Certified Popes. Corporations, LLC's, and otherwise Capitalist-based organizations are NOT capable of being Certified Popes.

Battering Rams not included.

POFP

Quote from: PoFP on August 26, 2020, 11:49:51 PM
Quote from: Cain on August 26, 2020, 10:54:01 PM
Ahem

Quote from: Cain on August 22, 2020, 12:17:16 AM
Q could be Jim Watkins, owner of 8kun. He could be a Falun Gong member (their websites have heavily pushed Qanon content), seeking to have American evangelical insanity take down China. He could be a Russian FSB cyber disinfo program gone wildly right, at least from the FSB's point of view. Any combination of these could be correct, as all three have vested interests in not just being Q, but amplifying Q's message.



Well, if the owner and Q are the same person.




Quote from: chaotic neutral observer on August 26, 2020, 10:55:25 PM
As far as I can tell, that IP address is in Vancouver, Washington, not Australia.

It seems to be assigned to Vanwatech, an anti DDOS service provider, whose owner, Nick Lim, has also provided services to the likes of the Daily Stormer.
https://www.columbian.com/news/2019/nov/07/8chan-back-online-under-the-name-8kun/

This is evidence that 8chan and Q use the same morality-unimpaired CDN, but I'm not sure that it proves much more than that.

Ah, good catch. The only service that provided a decent Reverse DNS on the IP was that robtex.com website, and it happened to also give a predicted location of Australia. For whatever reason, I didn't really question it.

The fact that the Reverse DNS on that site only returned the 3 sites Jim Watkins is responsible for makes me think that that IP is dedicated based on the customer. Now, I don't know for certain what DNS Servers they were using for that reverse lookup, but most of the public ones don't seem to have PTR entries for this address, so we could be looking at VERY limited results. Is it conclusive/proven? No, of course not.

Does it seem likely that Jim used the same anti-DDOS Provider to provide the public facing IP for all 3 of these websites like a dumbass? Big time.

IMO, at least.

Am I aware of the absurd levels of irony involved in jumping to distant conclusions about the origins of a Conspiracy Theory Propagation Tank? Absolutely not. I refuse to acknowledge it.  :lulz:
This Certified Pope™ reserves the Right to, on occasion, "be a complete dumbass", and otherwise ponder "idiotic" and/or "useless" ideas and other such "tomfoolery." [Aforementioned] are only responsible for the results of these actions and tendencies when they have had their addictive substance of choice for that day.

Being a Product of their Environment's Collective Order and Disorder, [Aforementioned] also reserves the Right to have their ideas, technologies, and otherwise all Intellectual Property stolen, re-purposed, and re-attributed at Will ONLY by other Certified Popes. Corporations, LLC's, and otherwise Capitalist-based organizations are NOT capable of being Certified Popes.

Battering Rams not included.

POFP

Actually, it looks like I misread something. There are a ton of domains associated with just the QAnon IP, but all of them seem to be Right-Wing News related. I'll write a little script to put together some reports using this ipinfo.io API.
This Certified Pope™ reserves the Right to, on occasion, "be a complete dumbass", and otherwise ponder "idiotic" and/or "useless" ideas and other such "tomfoolery." [Aforementioned] are only responsible for the results of these actions and tendencies when they have had their addictive substance of choice for that day.

Being a Product of their Environment's Collective Order and Disorder, [Aforementioned] also reserves the Right to have their ideas, technologies, and otherwise all Intellectual Property stolen, re-purposed, and re-attributed at Will ONLY by other Certified Popes. Corporations, LLC's, and otherwise Capitalist-based organizations are NOT capable of being Certified Popes.

Battering Rams not included.

POFP

Ugh, I don't really have time to do the level of investigation I want to do right now, but here's all the Hosts associated with the qmap.pub IP Address (And therefore, Vanwatech anti-DDOS Service):

203.28.246.1:
qmap.pub
8kun.top
vanwanet.com
sandiamesa.com
anonvideos.com
vanwatech.com
aeldra.to
tora3.com
lolis.xyz
hiddenmiracle.com
united2.club
ipfsbrowser.com
citizenmedia.news
abcu.co
permanentupload.com
qanonbin.com
united2.to
8stealth.com
highenergy.host
mostdope.ch
cryinchuckschumer.com
qarmy.net
serverpro.io
orcinustech.com
play-warena.com
christchannel.xyz
keepearthgreat.com
orcahub.com
pleroma.us
vanwahost.com
united2.global
elyria.to
qagg.news
centipedecentral.win
jamescorney.com
8kun.net
faldax.com
nicklimsucks.com
fuckgab.com
xn--2-p9twesc.net
vanwavpn.com
wewallstreet.org
redchannit.net
traboone.com
8chan.se
qanon.wiki
zeroalbum.com
8chan.moe
orangemenbad.club
abcu8.co

And here's the Domains associated with the Daily Stormer IP from the same Vanwatech provider:

203.28.246.123:

dailystormer.su
dailystormer.name
rb2.to
8keiw.tk
wponedge.com
voosc.tk
ecqgc.tk
fsjyc.tk
ivnp2.tk
69dim.tk
mealmeets.com
cofed.com
lolis.xyz
ipleak.dev
fuxvz.tk
sobgv.tk
5qoao.tk
ndpsz.tk
cj3zz.tk
qagg.news
wmja5.tk
hhlsz.tk
ejbnf.tk
70043.tk
rw1og.tk
orca.tech
jkwji.tk
dfchz.tk
ehcnz.tk
ik8nw.tk
kbcke.tk
hollweck.it
sos-rasisme.com
rew-writing.com
3mesz.tk
ypdb7.tk
mkzsi.tk
awakening.is
gtnsm.tk
canalesportivolive.ml
bananasports.xyz
8chan.nu
bnhke.tk
glrta.tk
zxq6m.tk
3l5ly.tk
openinternetaccess.com
v7ygd.tk
1l94s.tk
ak4pb.tk
escpn.tk
dailystormer.com
mm1tw.tk
vanwapay.com
websites.org
faldax.com
gpex7.tk
gsel3.tk
bhdbc.tk
xenoid.de
80nbi.tk
debbad.de
gddby.tk
619mq.tk
d8j8x.tk

(From my experience, randomized hostnames like that are either hosting illegal material, or are dummy/throwaways. I'm not in a position to test any right now as I'm on my company VPN. Also, the company claims to be the first Deep Web CDN Provider, so that increases the likelihood that those sites are going to be some level of unsettling.)


203.28.246.100:

8ch.net
vanitycrypto.com
apionly.com
vanwacrypto.com
gnosticwarfare.com
vanwavpn.com
preserveprivacy.com



203.28.246.150:

vanwanet.com
vanwatech.com
gdprtalk.com
nickthelim.com
permpaste.com
athenalayer.com


That concludes the list of all Vanwatech CDNs in their dedicated company IP range, and obviously some of them are duplicated across each of the IPs. But if someone wants to confirm shady af behavior, investigate connections to the other sites or Jim Watkins, etc. while I'm finishing up some work, have at it. Also, if we have a problem with the Domains of potentially disturbing sites being listed in a post here, I won't be offended if you wanna nuke the post and have me investigate separately. Just wanted to make sure the details were available to anyone else who might be interested in confirming Q's ID/connections.
This Certified Pope™ reserves the Right to, on occasion, "be a complete dumbass", and otherwise ponder "idiotic" and/or "useless" ideas and other such "tomfoolery." [Aforementioned] are only responsible for the results of these actions and tendencies when they have had their addictive substance of choice for that day.

Being a Product of their Environment's Collective Order and Disorder, [Aforementioned] also reserves the Right to have their ideas, technologies, and otherwise all Intellectual Property stolen, re-purposed, and re-attributed at Will ONLY by other Certified Popes. Corporations, LLC's, and otherwise Capitalist-based organizations are NOT capable of being Certified Popes.

Battering Rams not included.

Pergamos

Quote from: Bruno on August 10, 2020, 08:21:40 AM
Quote from: The Johnny on August 10, 2020, 05:42:27 AM
Quote from: Bruno on August 10, 2020, 04:57:32 AM
Yeah, but there's no more stable rock to cut a face out of. They'd have to convert one of the existing faces.

OR!

They could cut into some of the unstable rock, possibly wrecking the whole thing which would be fucking hilarious.

Win-Win situation

We need a monument to American avarice and stupidity. This would be perfect.

Of course, If all the faces fell off, they'd blame it on A.N.T.I.F.A. terrorists, and their base would believe it 100%.

If some antifa group didn't claim credit it would be a huge missed opportunity.

Bruno

Quote from: Pergamos on August 29, 2020, 05:00:59 AM
Quote from: Bruno on August 10, 2020, 08:21:40 AM
Quote from: The Johnny on August 10, 2020, 05:42:27 AM
Quote from: Bruno on August 10, 2020, 04:57:32 AM
Yeah, but there's no more stable rock to cut a face out of. They'd have to convert one of the existing faces.

OR!

They could cut into some of the unstable rock, possibly wrecking the whole thing which would be fucking hilarious.

Win-Win situation

We need a monument to American avarice and stupidity. This would be perfect.

Of course, If all the faces fell off, they'd blame it on A.N.T.I.F.A. terrorists, and their base would believe it 100%.

If some antifa group didn't claim credit it would be a huge missed opportunity.

A missed opportunity to be a patsy for some Nazi regime's incompetence?

Hard pass.
Formerly something else...