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Mesozoic Mister Nigel

Hung out with my labmate last night, she needed company and drinks.

Am unpleasantly reminded this morning why I don't normally do that. Hangovers suck.
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


Cainad (dec.)

Quote from: Q. G. Pennyworth on March 30, 2017, 03:15:43 PM
In case folks missed the other thread, I am in the market for test readers. Requirements include a working printer, 72 sheets of paper, and time to go through 285 pages of nonsense (which does sound like a lot, but remember one of the pages literally just has the word "booger" on it).

I could probably bogart my work printer for that purpose, but the earliest opportunity would be Monday evening.

Freeky

Quote from: Faust on March 30, 2017, 02:35:36 PM
sorry that was a bad 40k joke, didn't occur to me people would think its actually someone.


I know, man. I was playing along. Although I can see how it might not come across that way, I'm so out of it.

Freeky

Quote from: Cain on March 30, 2017, 03:11:04 PM
Yeah, if codeine's not helping, that sounds like it needs to be looked at, soon as possible  :sad:
Quote from: Faust on March 30, 2017, 02:35:36 PM

Tooth stuff is the worst, and if the codeine isn't working sounds like a dentist is waiting for you.


I have to wait for the infection to die down and then I will probably be able to function and handle leaving the house. that's on my to do list for the next week or so, though.

Q. G. Pennyworth

Quote from: Cainad (dec.) on March 31, 2017, 01:23:58 AM
Quote from: Q. G. Pennyworth on March 30, 2017, 03:15:43 PM
In case folks missed the other thread, I am in the market for test readers. Requirements include a working printer, 72 sheets of paper, and time to go through 285 pages of nonsense (which does sound like a lot, but remember one of the pages literally just has the word "booger" on it).

I could probably bogart my work printer for that purpose, but the earliest opportunity would be Monday evening.

PM for the google drive link if you're interested. I'm not on any deadline.

Mesozoic Mister Nigel

Quote from: Freeky on March 31, 2017, 01:28:05 AM
Quote from: Cain on March 30, 2017, 03:11:04 PM
Yeah, if codeine's not helping, that sounds like it needs to be looked at, soon as possible  :sad:
Quote from: Faust on March 30, 2017, 02:35:36 PM

Tooth stuff is the worst, and if the codeine isn't working sounds like a dentist is waiting for you.


I have to wait for the infection to die down and then I will probably be able to function and handle leaving the house. that's on my to do list for the next week or so, though.

Keep an eye on your temperature. If you run any fever at all, you need antibiotics immediately. I don't mean "in the morning" immediately, but get your ass to an ER immediately even if it means calling an ambulance -- infected teeth can turn into meningitis shockingly rapidly.
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."


POFP

So, apparently people in the company I support are so used to me telling them how to do their jobs, they've started asking for it. I am a Level 1.5 Service Desk agent, without any sort of degree, and only mildly relevant certifications, and System Administrators are asking me how to do their jobs.

I've found that the key is to write professionally, and as if you are the boss, or someone higher up. When you do, it's like they blatantly ignore your Position/Title noted in your Email signature.  :lulz:

Although, this is likely only as effective as I make it sound because most of their IT department is incompetent. And the other part of their IT department is based in India, and doesn't have English as a first language, so they aren't nearly as confident in what they're saying and couldn't get anything done even if they tried.

Pro tip: If you want to work your way up in IT, look for a job for a Financial Firm. Their workers are all impatient, impulsive, and aggressive, and will let you do whatever you want in order to avoid talking about things they don't understand. All you have to do is sound confident and say technical jargon constantly.
This Certified Pope™ reserves the Right to, on occasion, "be a complete dumbass", and otherwise ponder "idiotic" and/or "useless" ideas and other such "tomfoolery." [Aforementioned] are only responsible for the results of these actions and tendencies when they have had their addictive substance of choice for that day.

Being a Product of their Environment's Collective Order and Disorder, [Aforementioned] also reserves the Right to have their ideas, technologies, and otherwise all Intellectual Property stolen, re-purposed, and re-attributed at Will ONLY by other Certified Popes. Corporations, LLC's, and otherwise Capitalist-based organizations are NOT capable of being Certified Popes.

Battering Rams not included.

The Wizard Joseph

Quote from: Mesozoic Mister Nigel on March 31, 2017, 03:08:58 AM
Quote from: Freeky on March 31, 2017, 01:28:05 AM
Quote from: Cain on March 30, 2017, 03:11:04 PM
Yeah, if codeine's not helping, that sounds like it needs to be looked at, soon as possible  :sad:
Quote from: Faust on March 30, 2017, 02:35:36 PM

Tooth stuff is the worst, and if the codeine isn't working sounds like a dentist is waiting for you.


I have to wait for the infection to die down and then I will probably be able to function and handle leaving the house. that's on my to do list for the next week or so, though.

Keep an eye on your temperature. If you run any fever at all, you need antibiotics immediately. I don't mean "in the morning" immediately, but get your ass to an ER immediately even if it means calling an ambulance -- infected teeth can turn into meningitis shockingly rapidly.

This.
You can't get out backward.  You have to go forward to go back.. better press on! - Willie Wonka, PBUH

Life can be seen as a game with no reset button, no extra lives, and if the power goes out there is no restarting.  If that's all you see life as you are not long for this world, and never will get it.

"Ayn Rand never swung a hammer in her life and had serious dominance issues" - The Fountainhead

"World domination is such an ugly phrase. I prefer to call it world optimisation."
- Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality :lulz:

"You program the controller to do the thing, only it doesn't do the thing.  It does something else entirely, or nothing at all.  It's like voting."
- Billy, Aug 21st, 2019

"It's not even chaos anymore. It's BANAL."
- Doktor Hamish Howl

LMNO

Quote from: Fernando The Poo, Hole of Ass on March 31, 2017, 06:34:33 PM
So, apparently people in the company I support are so used to me telling them how to do their jobs, they've started asking for it. I am a Level 1.5 Service Desk agent, without any sort of degree, and only mildly relevant certifications, and System Administrators are asking me how to do their jobs.

I've found that the key is to write professionally, and as if you are the boss, or someone higher up. When you do, it's like they blatantly ignore your Position/Title noted in your Email signature.  :lulz:

Although, this is likely only as effective as I make it sound because most of their IT department is incompetent. And the other part of their IT department is based in India, and doesn't have English as a first language, so they aren't nearly as confident in what they're saying and couldn't get anything done even if they tried.

Pro tip: If you want to work your way up in IT, look for a job for a Financial Firm. Their workers are all impatient, impulsive, and aggressive, and will let you do whatever you want in order to avoid talking about things they don't understand. All you have to do is sound confident and say technical jargon constantly.

This is one of the core secrets in business.  And a huge disadvantage to anyone who was unable to learn "traditional" (i.e. "white middle/upper class") communication skills.  Privilege - it's sneaky.

POFP

Quote from: LMNO on March 31, 2017, 07:11:17 PM
Quote from: Fernando The Poo, Hole of Ass on March 31, 2017, 06:34:33 PM
So, apparently people in the company I support are so used to me telling them how to do their jobs, they've started asking for it. I am a Level 1.5 Service Desk agent, without any sort of degree, and only mildly relevant certifications, and System Administrators are asking me how to do their jobs.

I've found that the key is to write professionally, and as if you are the boss, or someone higher up. When you do, it's like they blatantly ignore your Position/Title noted in your Email signature.  :lulz:

Although, this is likely only as effective as I make it sound because most of their IT department is incompetent. And the other part of their IT department is based in India, and doesn't have English as a first language, so they aren't nearly as confident in what they're saying and couldn't get anything done even if they tried.

Pro tip: If you want to work your way up in IT, look for a job for a Financial Firm. Their workers are all impatient, impulsive, and aggressive, and will let you do whatever you want in order to avoid talking about things they don't understand. All you have to do is sound confident and say technical jargon constantly.

This is one of the core secrets in business.  And a huge disadvantage to anyone who was unable to learn "traditional" (i.e. "white middle/upper class") communication skills.  Privilege - it's sneaky.

Yeah, I feel really bad for the India-based teams. They have the best manners and are incredibly knowledge-hungry, but that language barrier makes it impossible for the rest of the advantage to work itself out.

I never actually realized how important English class was to success until I started working in a professional environment. I'm considering going back to some of the schools I went to and giving talks that emphasize that fact. Especially to the underprivileged schools.

I know that when we had speakers come in and tell us about what made them successful in the real world, it was always influential and eye-opening. We all loved it and learned from it. I would hope that if the kids learned anything, it would be that Language Arts is the most effective way to hold people's attention and convince people of your worth in a professional environment. If you can bullshit with confidence, you can run the world. And the cool part is, you can use current politics as an example, and most of the kids, regardless of age, would know what you're talking about.
This Certified Pope™ reserves the Right to, on occasion, "be a complete dumbass", and otherwise ponder "idiotic" and/or "useless" ideas and other such "tomfoolery." [Aforementioned] are only responsible for the results of these actions and tendencies when they have had their addictive substance of choice for that day.

Being a Product of their Environment's Collective Order and Disorder, [Aforementioned] also reserves the Right to have their ideas, technologies, and otherwise all Intellectual Property stolen, re-purposed, and re-attributed at Will ONLY by other Certified Popes. Corporations, LLC's, and otherwise Capitalist-based organizations are NOT capable of being Certified Popes.

Battering Rams not included.

The Good Reverend Roger

Now I have to make a choice.

Start the robotics job on Monday, or go to work full-time for the NGO for whom I've been doing bits and pieces?  They have just taken over the running of a research facility on the other side of town, and they want me running the facilities.

I'm leaning toward the NGO, for multiple reasons, not least of which is I can see my old job from there, and I can watch it rot away due to Lilly's abject failure.
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

The Wizard Joseph

Quote from: Captain Pike on March 31, 2017, 07:47:14 PM
Now I have to make a choice.

Start the robotics job on Monday, or go to work full-time for the NGO for whom I've been doing bits and pieces?  They have just taken over the running of a research facility on the other side of town, and they want me running the facilities.

I'm leaning toward the NGO, for multiple reasons, not least of which is I can see my old job from there, and I can watch it rot away due to Lilly's abject failure.

If both are sufficient and equivalent in compensation then I guess the question is which will be most tolerable to you day after day? All thoughts of wat hing others rot aside because that's only a temporary joy which is in and of itself something that you want to be doing?
You can't get out backward.  You have to go forward to go back.. better press on! - Willie Wonka, PBUH

Life can be seen as a game with no reset button, no extra lives, and if the power goes out there is no restarting.  If that's all you see life as you are not long for this world, and never will get it.

"Ayn Rand never swung a hammer in her life and had serious dominance issues" - The Fountainhead

"World domination is such an ugly phrase. I prefer to call it world optimisation."
- Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality :lulz:

"You program the controller to do the thing, only it doesn't do the thing.  It does something else entirely, or nothing at all.  It's like voting."
- Billy, Aug 21st, 2019

"It's not even chaos anymore. It's BANAL."
- Doktor Hamish Howl

The Good Reverend Roger

Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on March 31, 2017, 07:56:14 PM
Quote from: Captain Pike on March 31, 2017, 07:47:14 PM
Now I have to make a choice.

Start the robotics job on Monday, or go to work full-time for the NGO for whom I've been doing bits and pieces?  They have just taken over the running of a research facility on the other side of town, and they want me running the facilities.

I'm leaning toward the NGO, for multiple reasons, not least of which is I can see my old job from there, and I can watch it rot away due to Lilly's abject failure.

If both are sufficient and equivalent in compensation then I guess the question is which will be most tolerable to you day after day? All thoughts of wat hing others rot aside because that's only a temporary joy which is in and of itself something that you want to be doing?

The NGO is more money, but nothing new to learn.  But it is going to be a rolling disaster for a while, as the previous owners cheaped out on the water plant and other infrastructure.

And watching Lilly's epic monument to failure will never get old.

Thanks, you have helped me reach a decision.   :lulz:
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

The Wizard Joseph

Quote from: Captain Pike on March 31, 2017, 08:01:03 PM
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on March 31, 2017, 07:56:14 PM
Quote from: Captain Pike on March 31, 2017, 07:47:14 PM
Now I have to make a choice.

Start the robotics job on Monday, or go to work full-time for the NGO for whom I've been doing bits and pieces?  They have just taken over the running of a research facility on the other side of town, and they want me running the facilities.

I'm leaning toward the NGO, for multiple reasons, not least of which is I can see my old job from there, and I can watch it rot away due to Lilly's abject failure.

If both are sufficient and equivalent in compensation then I guess the question is which will be most tolerable to you day after day? All thoughts of wat hing others rot aside because that's only a temporary joy which is in and of itself something that you want to be doing?

The NGO is more money, but nothing new to learn.  But it is going to be a rolling disaster for a while, as the previous owners cheaped out on the water plant and other infrastructure.

And watching Lilly's epic monument to failure will never get old.

Thanks, you have helped me reach a decision.   :lulz:

:) Just doing the Socratic thing. Happy to be of assistance.
You can't get out backward.  You have to go forward to go back.. better press on! - Willie Wonka, PBUH

Life can be seen as a game with no reset button, no extra lives, and if the power goes out there is no restarting.  If that's all you see life as you are not long for this world, and never will get it.

"Ayn Rand never swung a hammer in her life and had serious dominance issues" - The Fountainhead

"World domination is such an ugly phrase. I prefer to call it world optimisation."
- Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality :lulz:

"You program the controller to do the thing, only it doesn't do the thing.  It does something else entirely, or nothing at all.  It's like voting."
- Billy, Aug 21st, 2019

"It's not even chaos anymore. It's BANAL."
- Doktor Hamish Howl

Mesozoic Mister Nigel

Quote from: Fernando The Poo, Hole of Ass on March 31, 2017, 07:29:15 PM
Quote from: LMNO on March 31, 2017, 07:11:17 PM
Quote from: Fernando The Poo, Hole of Ass on March 31, 2017, 06:34:33 PM
So, apparently people in the company I support are so used to me telling them how to do their jobs, they've started asking for it. I am a Level 1.5 Service Desk agent, without any sort of degree, and only mildly relevant certifications, and System Administrators are asking me how to do their jobs.

I've found that the key is to write professionally, and as if you are the boss, or someone higher up. When you do, it's like they blatantly ignore your Position/Title noted in your Email signature.  :lulz:

Although, this is likely only as effective as I make it sound because most of their IT department is incompetent. And the other part of their IT department is based in India, and doesn't have English as a first language, so they aren't nearly as confident in what they're saying and couldn't get anything done even if they tried.

Pro tip: If you want to work your way up in IT, look for a job for a Financial Firm. Their workers are all impatient, impulsive, and aggressive, and will let you do whatever you want in order to avoid talking about things they don't understand. All you have to do is sound confident and say technical jargon constantly.

This is one of the core secrets in business.  And a huge disadvantage to anyone who was unable to learn "traditional" (i.e. "white middle/upper class") communication skills.  Privilege - it's sneaky.

Yeah, I feel really bad for the India-based teams. They have the best manners and are incredibly knowledge-hungry, but that language barrier makes it impossible for the rest of the advantage to work itself out.

I never actually realized how important English class was to success until I started working in a professional environment. I'm considering going back to some of the schools I went to and giving talks that emphasize that fact. Especially to the underprivileged schools.

I know that when we had speakers come in and tell us about what made them successful in the real world, it was always influential and eye-opening. We all loved it and learned from it. I would hope that if the kids learned anything, it would be that Language Arts is the most effective way to hold people's attention and convince people of your worth in a professional environment. If you can bullshit with confidence, you can run the world. And the cool part is, you can use current politics as an example, and most of the kids, regardless of age, would know what you're talking about.

Very true. I think this is one of the reasons you so often find English majors in management positions.
"I'm guessing it was January 2007, a meeting in Bethesda, we got a bag of bees and just started smashing them on the desk," Charles Wick said. "It was very complicated."