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Re: Sympathy and Nazis
« Reply #75 on: May 13, 2017, 03:18:05 am »
You should make friends with the Hare Krishna guy!

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Re: Sympathy and Nazis
« Reply #76 on: May 13, 2017, 03:19:13 am »
to acertain your reasoning of existence.

This is the most special thing anyone has posted since 2008.

Well what do you expect me to say? I'm not some bumpkin who puts his head in the ground like an ostrich every time someone tries to tell me I'm wrong for what I state.

You don't even try to refute what I say, merely attempting to take what I say at face value and claiming I am insane.

Keep doing that, it's as I say it is. Also wear a gas mask.

I'm not actually paid to refute what you say.  I'm just here for the laughs.
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Re: Sympathy and Nazis
« Reply #77 on: May 13, 2017, 05:16:56 am »
to acertain your reasoning of existence.

This is the most special thing anyone has posted since 2008.

Well what do you expect me to say? I'm not some bumpkin who puts his head in the ground like an ostrich every time someone tries to tell me I'm wrong for what I state.

You don't even try to refute what I say, merely attempting to take what I say at face value and claiming I am insane.

Keep doing that, it's as I say it is. Also wear a gas mask.

I'm not actually paid to refute what you say.  I'm just here for the laughs.

We're not paid at all.

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Re: Sympathy and Nazis
« Reply #78 on: May 13, 2017, 06:15:41 pm »
to acertain your reasoning of existence.

This is the most special thing anyone has posted since 2008.

Well what do you expect me to say? I'm not some bumpkin who puts his head in the ground like an ostrich every time someone tries to tell me I'm wrong for what I state.

You don't even try to refute what I say, merely attempting to take what I say at face value and claiming I am insane.

Keep doing that, it's as I say it is. Also wear a gas mask.

I'm not actually paid to refute what you say.  I'm just here for the laughs.

We're not paid at all.

Hey check it out, it's the guy whose argument for why the police have biases against minorities is because the police are "justifiably paranoid" since "minorities commit more crime than white people".

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Re: Sympathy and Nazis
« Reply #79 on: May 13, 2017, 06:41:16 pm »
to acertain your reasoning of existence.

This is the most special thing anyone has posted since 2008.

Well what do you expect me to say? I'm not some bumpkin who puts his head in the ground like an ostrich every time someone tries to tell me I'm wrong for what I state.

You don't even try to refute what I say, merely attempting to take what I say at face value and claiming I am insane.

Keep doing that, it's as I say it is. Also wear a gas mask.

I'm not actually paid to refute what you say.  I'm just here for the laughs.

We're not paid at all.

Hey check it out, it's the guy whose argument for why the police have biases against minorities is because the police are "justifiably paranoid" since "minorities commit more crime than white people".

Thank you for dragging your sorry ass to PD assuming you'd easily mop the floor with all of us "greyface discordians."

Fun facts about this turd:
- He quotes the PD like scripture because
- He thinks Nazis are extinct, and we should take great care not to offend the poor innocents in the Klan by calling them the wrong thing.
- There is no structural economic division between white and non-white citizens in America
- Speaking of America, it's a meritocracy where everyone has the same opportunities at birth
- And other classic hits from 4chan

Oh, this is one of the edgy FB Discordians, eh?  Christ, how boring.
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Re: Sympathy and Nazis
« Reply #80 on: May 13, 2017, 06:45:54 pm »
Yes. Not a single thought rattling around in what passes for a head that isn't as dull as you'd expect. Also infected with alt-right "heh heh I'm just here for the lulz" syndrome. He is proud of having no moral foundation and was apparently surprised by the statement "The act of not taking a side, is taking a side".
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Re: Sympathy and Nazis
« Reply #81 on: May 13, 2017, 06:50:04 pm »
Well this completes our quota of dumb for the month then. Any extra is just a bonus.
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Re: Sympathy and Nazis
« Reply #82 on: May 13, 2017, 06:54:00 pm »
Well this completes our quota of dumb for the month then. Any extra is just a bonus.

It's early in the month.  We'll get at least one more.

Krishna dude, this spag, and at least one more.

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Re: Sympathy and Nazis
« Reply #83 on: May 13, 2017, 09:06:48 pm »
Yeah but it'll probably be poptart again and that doesn't really count.
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Re: Sympathy and Nazis
« Reply #84 on: May 13, 2017, 09:43:37 pm »
"We're passing the point of intellectual curiosity and abstract philosophy. We're close to something like another world war, but instead of nations ideas fighting, it will be ideas identities. It's up to each and every one of us to decide which ideas identities are worth fighting for, maybe dying for."

Well this completes our quota of dumb for the month then. Any extra is just a bonus.

It's early in the month.  We'll get at least one more.

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Re: Sympathy and Nazis
« Reply #85 on: May 13, 2017, 10:47:57 pm »
Hi there. So how so you plan on shitting the bed? Got a guru? Need one? We've gone a whole week without a white supremacist if you're sticking to the classics.
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Re: Sympathy and Nazis
« Reply #86 on: May 14, 2017, 12:22:16 am »
Oh I'm just a White tribalist. I denounce violence and hatred.

You know...like a moderate Muslim.

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Re: Sympathy and Nazis
« Reply #87 on: May 20, 2017, 01:20:20 am »
Hey, so I have real-world experience with this topic. I can tell you what happened here.

Oregon is a deeply racist state founded on a racist premise; a nigger-free state. Needless to say, historically we have had enormous problems with racism even once the state got to the point of recognizing that the "no blacks allowed" law was an insane farce that couldn't be permitted to continue. Fast forward to the 1980's; white nationalists were operating openly here, seeking to make this area a white nationalist haven. They were attacking people on the streets; blacks, gays, jews, whoever they felt didn't belong in their fantasy of a white utopia. The police were of no help, being racist as fuck themselves and deeply infiltrated by white nationalists.

Some people died. From being beaten to death by Nazis while minding their own fucking business. One of them was a college student from Africa named Mulugeta Seraw. This made national news. This is when things changed.

The local punks had been clashing with the local skinheads for quite some time, and punks had no qualms about punching nazis. Mr. Seraw's death put not only Portland's Nazi problem, but also the punk resistance to the Nazi problem, in front of a lot of eyes. Punks and SHARPs started moving to Portland to punch Nazis.

And things changed. The streets were made safe for, well, me. And everyone else I knew. We could literally get a punk or SHARP escort if we had to walk alone at night. The police didn't help, but they didn't hinder, either, and it was a sea change for Portland culture. IT CHANGED EVERYTHING. Punching Nazis is literally what made Portland what it is today; if that hadn't happened, Portland would never have become a sweet liberal destination town. It wouldn't be safe.

So shut up with the bullshit clueless holier-than-though moralizing, and punch a Nazi today.

This is really, really important.

It's important because up until now I knew NOTHING about Mulugeta Seraw or the actions of punks and SHARPs in Oregon.

It's important because it throws the cold, wet blanket of "Shit That Actually Fucking Happened," also known as history, onto the cloud of fart-gas that is the armchair discussion of whether or not punching Nazis makes us "just as bad as them."

It comes to mind for me especially because Dan Carlin, who I have really grown to respect in the relatively short time I've listened to his content, recently made an episode of his Common Sense series in which he admonishes the political left for condoning the "punching Nazis" memes. It was unsettling to me when I first listened to it, and now it's REALLY jarring because the dude lives in Oregon and has built his brand around being historically informed and maintaining a perspective grounded in history. So the fact of Mulugeta Seraw's death and the aftermath kind of makes him look, uh, stupid and wrong.

But either he's willfully ignorant, or he's like me: another Well-Intentioned White GuyTM who apparently needs a couple extra credit-hours on the history of race in America.

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Re: Sympathy and Nazis
« Reply #88 on: May 21, 2017, 06:05:11 pm »
What's really unfortunate is that Black History™ has been shuffled off into its own Special-Interest History™ ghetto, so that only people who actively seek it out learn about the depths of social injustice OR the everyday heroes who have successfully fought it. Yet, people (white people in particular) are given the impression that they HAVE learned history and ARE educated on the past, because they took all their required classes. So, they assume that if someone else tells them something about Special-Interest History™, that person is wrong, uneducated, or a conspiracy theorist who is blowing minor historical events out of proportion.
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Re: Sympathy and Nazis
« Reply #89 on: May 22, 2017, 01:24:54 pm »
What's extra weird is the people who don't care.  Not like, "I'm kinda racist so I really don't want to know about this stuff," more like, "I have no real curiosity or interest in this, so I literally don't know any of this ever happened."

For example, one of the guitarists in Frost Heaves is a really nice guy, and absolutely not intentionally racist, but I had to explain redlining to him - which isn't that odd, as it's fairly special interest, but in order to do so I had to give him a brief intro to systemic racism in America, which he didn't know was and is a thing.  He couldn't get his head around the fact that the government intentionally wrote racist laws post Jim Crow.  He was at least willing to learn, but it was really weird to me to have to go back that far.