Introductions, Part VI: Welcome to Our PD Party

[rong]

I think the Joaqin Phoenix Joker was a better movie, but Heath Ledger was a better Joker.

A Bill Murray Joker would be so psychologically damaging, it should be made but nobody should be allowed to watch it.

[P3nT4gR4m]

As someone afflicted by the odd episode of psychotic mania, the joker has always been a personal favourite of mine. Heath Ledger played it to a tee for me. There's an appeal to mania. It's like a drug, trying to suck you back in. I've spoken to people who hate it, not me, I fucking love it. I just can't indulge because shit does not end well down that road. So the Joker lets me live out the fantasy vicariously.

The latest one with Joaquin Phoenix was a fucking good looking movie and a great performance but, for me, it had fuck all to do with the Joker. Dude in the film wasn't a maniac. He was some sort of dissociative depressed person. Nothing against depressed people but for me it's like the choice between a getting wasted story and a hangover story. Like, I wanna see strippers and flashing blue lights and climbing up the side of a building for a dare, not some dude lying in bed complaining cos his head hurts for two hours and fifteen I didn't get my fix

[Cramulus]

I enjoyed the movie, but I had to wait to see it

It felt like the mediasphere had pre-agreed that the movie was going to be a SYMBOL, a STATEMENT

and I just didn't want to participate in any of that

I didn't want to like the movie and then feel like I needed to defend it
I didn't want to hate the movie and feel like I needed to explain
And I sure didn't want to make a statement about mass shootings or mental health or whatever - one way or the other - by buying a ticket or not buying a ticket.

Yeah it was a good movie IMO, but the whole media hype around it was exhausting.

[village idiot]

hey there, i am as the name suggests, the village idiot. you know, one of those people who all his god forsaken life thought others were stupid and crazy and talked nonsense (they still do) but arrived at the conclusion i don't actually know jack shit about what those people know.

a whippersnapper that got whipped. the lord casteth satan out of heaven style.

to be precise, i never understood and still don't understand poetry.

[Doktor Howl]

hey there, i am as the name suggests, the village idiot. you know, one of those people who all his god forsaken life thought others were stupid and crazy and talked nonsense (they still do) but arrived at the conclusion i don't actually know jack shit about what those people know.

a whippersnapper that got whipped. the lord casteth satan out of heaven style.

to be precise, i never understood and still don't understand poetry.

Hello, new guy.

[Thumper Forge (Όρκος)]

Hello! I am new. Forums confuse the hell out of me, but I'll try to contribute.

I am a terrible cook, but I can make really good sausage cheese balls. I will check the recipes section to make sure nobody has stolen my thunder on that.

Currently writing a book that combines Discordianism and Empedocledian doctrine with witchcraft and Chaos magic, because I never, ever want to be published, apparently.

I am neither a cop nor a cabbage, as far as I know.

Anywho, just wanted to introduce myself. Please only murder me in my sleep.

[LMNO]

Hello, new person!

[Cramulus]

Hello! I am new. Forums confuse the hell out of me, but I'll try to contribute.

I am a terrible cook, but I can make really good sausage cheese balls. I will check the recipes section to make sure nobody has stolen my thunder on that.

Currently writing a book that combines Discordianism and Empedocledian doctrine with witchcraft and Chaos magic, because I never, ever want to be published, apparently.

I am neither a cop nor a cabbage, as far as I know.

Anywho, just wanted to introduce myself. Please only murder me in my sleep.

Hey newcomer!

Super interesting topic, though you're right, probably not much mass appeal. Curious - How do you reconcile Empedocledian's 4 with Discordia's 5? Is the universe balanced or not??

[Cain]

Joke's on the universe - I can't count

[Thumper Forge (Όρκος)]

Curious - How do you reconcile Empedocledian's 4 with Discordia's 5? Is the universe balanced or not??

Hello!

Empedocles described the Four Elements as the "root" states of matter that were basically banged around by the forces of Love and Strife until everything was created. So we're actually looking at 6 fundamentals instead of 4, and 6-1=5. OR we could add in an additional root of Aether/Spirit/what-have-you and get to five that way.

I think the Universe wants to be balanced but falls down a lot.

[Cramulus]

I look forward to reading more! I've got a soft spot for the intersection of Discordianism, antiquated mysticism, and modern spirituality.

welcome to the melee 

[chaotic neutral observer]

Hello, new person.  Did you bring doughnuts?  I like people who bring doughnuts.

Curious - How do you reconcile Empedocledian's 4 with Discordia's 5? Is the universe balanced or not??

Hello!

Empedocles described the Four Elements as the "root" states of matter that were basically banged around by the forces of Love and Strife until everything was created. So we're actually looking at 6 fundamentals instead of 4, and 6-1=5. OR we could add in an additional root of Aether/Spirit/what-have-you and get to five that way.

On cosmic scales, 4, 5 and 6 are all the same number.

I hadn't heard of Empedocles before today, so ... thanks.  I didn't know the "four elements" gimmick had a specific author.

[Thumper Forge (Όρκος)]

Did you bring doughnuts?  I like people who bring doughnuts.

I *always* bring doughnuts!

I didn't know the "four elements" gimmick had a specific author.

Empedocles didn't invent the concept of the four elements, but he was the first to describe them as abstractions/states of matter instead of literal rocks and fire and whatnot.

[Thumper Forge (Όρκος)]

I look forward to reading more! I've got a soft spot for the intersection of Discordianism, antiquated mysticism, and modern spirituality.

I promise to get weird with it.

Thank you for the welcome!

[Doktor Howl]

Hello, new person.  Did you bring doughnuts?  I like people who bring doughnuts.

Curious - How do you reconcile Empedocledian's 4 with Discordia's 5? Is the universe balanced or not??

Hello!

Empedocles described the Four Elements as the "root" states of matter that were basically banged around by the forces of Love and Strife until everything was created. So we're actually looking at 6 fundamentals instead of 4, and 6-1=5. OR we could add in an additional root of Aether/Spirit/what-have-you and get to five that way.

On cosmic scales, 4, 5 and 6 are all the same number.

I hadn't heard of Empedocles before today, so ... thanks.  I didn't know the "four elements" gimmick had a specific author.

There are 5 elements.

Air, Earth, Fire, Water, Stupidity.