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Re: Look both ways before you cross
« Reply #30 on: June 28, 2017, 12:57:21 am »

I'm not Anerican

Oh.  Never mind.

What is going on over there that following a nordic tradition evokes such a reaction? I'm genuinely confused here.

Got off on the wrong foot here, I've been interested in politics and Discordianism for 20 years, since I was 17. Started out as a lefty, a firebrand idealist. Used to post on a similar forum back before iron prison was put published. Got shot down allot and learned a few things.

Over the years I've grown, my views have changed and evolved. Raising a daughter and scared shitless about the future she'll inherit. Maybe my point was lost, maybe I've misunderstood some American cultural/political issues.

Main point is that some of us on the right side of this airplane care as much about free thinking and opening people's minds as those on the left and both sides have closed minded extremists to be wary of

So, you lost your nerve and went potato?  Okay.

Anyway, the right over here has no fucking interest in free thinking or any of that shit.

Theresa May isn't looking good, either.  Enjoy your Brexit, I am sure it will make everything just GREAT for your kid's future.
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Re: Look both ways before you cross
« Reply #31 on: June 28, 2017, 01:09:08 am »

I'm not Anerican

Oh.  Never mind.

What is going on over there that following a nordic tradition evokes such a reaction? I'm genuinely confused here.

Got off on the wrong foot here, I've been interested in politics and Discordianism for 20 years, since I was 17. Started out as a lefty, a firebrand idealist. Used to post on a similar forum back before iron prison was put published. Got shot down allot and learned a few things.

Over the years I've grown, my views have changed and evolved. Raising a daughter and scared shitless about the future she'll inherit. Maybe my point was lost, maybe I've misunderstood some American cultural/political issues.

Main point is that some of us on the right side of this airplane care as much about free thinking and opening people's minds as those on the left and both sides have closed minded extremists to be wary of

So, you lost your nerve and went potato?  Okay.

Anyway, the right over here has no fucking interest in free thinking or any of that shit.

Theresa May isn't looking good, either.  Enjoy your Brexit, I am sure it will make everything just GREAT for your kid's future.

I was one of the 48%. Still enough remainers in the back bench to hopefully cause enough trouble. May is an idiot but Corbyn is little better. I actualy liked him till he threw away his principles to create a manifesto to please everyone.

British politics is polarising, Labour is being taken over by the extreme left who have as little interest in free thinking as the far right and the tories dont know what the bloody hell they represent anymore.

One of the reasons I became more interested in discordianism. Everyone is nailing colours to masts, blindly following ideaologies without really knowing or questioning what they represent. Got me thinking, got me wondering if folk still give a damn. Been lurking for a while, honestly not sure if there are still folk trying to make changes or just building ivory towers of bitter salt.
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Re: Look both ways before you cross
« Reply #32 on: June 28, 2017, 01:22:22 am »

I'm not Anerican

Oh.  Never mind.

What is going on over there that following a nordic tradition evokes such a reaction? I'm genuinely confused here.

Got off on the wrong foot here, I've been interested in politics and Discordianism for 20 years, since I was 17. Started out as a lefty, a firebrand idealist. Used to post on a similar forum back before iron prison was put published. Got shot down allot and learned a few things.

Over the years I've grown, my views have changed and evolved. Raising a daughter and scared shitless about the future she'll inherit. Maybe my point was lost, maybe I've misunderstood some American cultural/political issues.

Main point is that some of us on the right side of this airplane care as much about free thinking and opening people's minds as those on the left and both sides have closed minded extremists to be wary of

So, you lost your nerve and went potato?  Okay.

Anyway, the right over here has no fucking interest in free thinking or any of that shit.

Theresa May isn't looking good, either.  Enjoy your Brexit, I am sure it will make everything just GREAT for your kid's future.

I was one of the 48%. Still enough remainers in the back bench to hopefully cause enough trouble. May is an idiot but Corbyn is little better. I actualy liked him till he threw away his principles to create a manifesto to please everyone.

British politics is polarising, Labour is being taken over by the extreme left who have as little interest in free thinking as the far right and the tories dont know what the bloody hell they represent anymore.

One of the reasons I became more interested in discordianism. Everyone is nailing colours to masts, blindly following ideaologies without really knowing or questioning what they represent. Got me thinking, got me wondering if folk still give a damn. Been lurking for a while, honestly not sure if there are still folk trying to make changes or just building ivory towers of bitter salt.

So I am trying to figure out why you are on the right?  Every time someone brings up a right-wing position, you are against it.

Is there any particular thing you actually dislike about liberalism - as it actually exists in practice - or is this just one of those things where you like Richard Spencer's haircut and wish to say "kek" a lot?
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Re: Look both ways before you cross
« Reply #33 on: June 28, 2017, 01:23:57 am »
(It bears mentioning that if you decide to take a loud 3% of liberals as your model, I get to jump back on the Norse Vagr horsie again.)

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Re: Look both ways before you cross
« Reply #34 on: June 28, 2017, 01:43:22 am »
And for the record, I'm in the UK and have travelled a fair bit through Europe. I've never met anyone who has an "interest in nordic paganism" who hasn't turned out to be an utter cretin.


Also for the record, I am in no way responsible for this one and I resent any insinuations to the contrary.

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Re: Look both ways before you cross
« Reply #35 on: June 28, 2017, 02:03:59 am »
And for the record, I'm in the UK and have travelled a fair bit through Europe. I've never met anyone who has an "interest in nordic paganism" who hasn't turned out to be an utter cretin.


Also for the record, I am in no way responsible for this one and I resent any insinuations to the contrary.

He's next to London, not Manchester, so you're provisionally off the hook...

...Um.  WAIT.

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Re: Look both ways before you cross
« Reply #36 on: June 28, 2017, 03:23:24 am »
Mayan/Aztec Paganism > Nordic anything.

You cucks drank fermented honey we drank fermented children's blood with chocolate, and chili powder.

OP is into SCAT, or Indian food lost it's thrill to him.
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Re: Look both ways before you cross
« Reply #37 on: June 28, 2017, 05:06:02 am »
Mayan/Aztec Paganism > Nordic anything.

You cucks drank fermented honey we drank fermented children's blood with chocolate, and chili powder.

OP is into SCAT, or Indian food lost it's thrill to him.

I love scat. Jon Hendricks is where it's at.

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Re: Look both ways before you cross
« Reply #38 on: June 28, 2017, 05:08:09 am »
And for the record, I'm in the UK and have travelled a fair bit through Europe. I've never met anyone who has an "interest in nordic paganism" who hasn't turned out to be an utter cretin.


Also for the record, I am in no way responsible for this one and I resent any insinuations to the contrary.

Sadly, that is too often the case. Tend to stay away from the "Asatru" types due to this. Either they end up as fluffy bunny wiccans or heavy metal fucktards.
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Re: Look both ways before you cross
« Reply #39 on: June 28, 2017, 05:17:08 am »

I'm not Anerican

Oh.  Never mind.

What is going on over there that following a nordic tradition evokes such a reaction? I'm genuinely confused here.

Got off on the wrong foot here, I've been interested in politics and Discordianism for 20 years, since I was 17. Started out as a lefty, a firebrand idealist. Used to post on a similar forum back before iron prison was put published. Got shot down allot and learned a few things.

Over the years I've grown, my views have changed and evolved. Raising a daughter and scared shitless about the future she'll inherit. Maybe my point was lost, maybe I've misunderstood some American cultural/political issues.

Main point is that some of us on the right side of this airplane care as much about free thinking and opening people's minds as those on the left and both sides have closed minded extremists to be wary of

So, you lost your nerve and went potato?  Okay.

Anyway, the right over here has no fucking interest in free thinking or any of that shit.

Theresa May isn't looking good, either.  Enjoy your Brexit, I am sure it will make everything just GREAT for your kid's future.

I was one of the 48%. Still enough remainers in the back bench to hopefully cause enough trouble. May is an idiot but Corbyn is little better. I actualy liked him till he threw away his principles to create a manifesto to please everyone.

British politics is polarising, Labour is being taken over by the extreme left who have as little interest in free thinking as the far right and the tories dont know what the bloody hell they represent anymore.

One of the reasons I became more interested in discordianism. Everyone is nailing colours to masts, blindly following ideaologies without really knowing or questioning what they represent. Got me thinking, got me wondering if folk still give a damn. Been lurking for a while, honestly not sure if there are still folk trying to make changes or just building ivory towers of bitter salt.

So I am trying to figure out why you are on the right?  Every time someone brings up a right-wing position, you are against it.

Is there any particular thing you actually dislike about liberalism - as it actually exists in practice - or is this just one of those things where you like Richard Spencer's haircut and wish to say "kek" a lot?

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- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

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Re: Look both ways before you cross
« Reply #40 on: June 28, 2017, 07:22:10 am »
I'm less against liberalism than I am against British socialism and the rise of the extreme left. A few years ago I'd be considered centrist, these days if you are not a Corbynite you are considered right of Hitler.

In failing to recognise this was a mostly American forum and the different political situation it appears I have rather fucked up and my point has been lost. Live and learn I guess
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Re: Look both ways before you cross
« Reply #41 on: June 28, 2017, 01:11:41 pm »
I'm less against liberalism than I am against British socialism and the rise of the extreme left. A few years ago I'd be considered centrist, these days if you are not a Corbynite you are considered right of Hitler.

In failing to recognise this was a mostly American forum and the different political situation it appears I have rather fucked up and my point has been lost. Live and learn I guess

Judging any group by its extremists is sort of a losing game.

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Re: Look both ways before you cross
« Reply #42 on: June 28, 2017, 02:29:26 pm »
I love Corbyn! Prick is a f'kin werewolf in sheep's clothing. Have a look at his appearances before and after the election. From mumbling history teacher to cocky demagogue in the space of a week. Flushed with success. Tripping on a sudden hit of power that spineless little wankers like that are in no way equipped to handle. In years to come that Glastonbury address could go down as the UK's Nuremberg Rally. There's a monster ready to eat this country and send us into civil war. Serious fun and profit up for grabs. Watch this space.
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Re: Look both ways before you cross
« Reply #43 on: June 28, 2017, 02:31:00 pm »
I'm less against liberalism than I am against British socialism and the rise of the extreme left. A few years ago I'd be considered centrist, these days if you are not a Corbynite you are considered right of Hitler.

In failing to recognise this was a mostly American forum and the different political situation it appears I have rather fucked up and my point has been lost. Live and learn I guess

Judging any group by its extremists is sort of a losing game.

It's not about judging by the extremists, it's the bloody extremists taking control. Labour swung from left wing-lite under Blair to extremists holding the reigns. Corbyn doesn't control the unions and far left, they control him.

Any political system requires a balance of left and right, our system is supposed to work along that frame work. Within the parties themselves you have checks and balances. Corbyn was an example of this, a well known rebel within his party as a balance to the centrists.

The balance is out of whack. The tories are at war with each other and the Labour party list any chance of reigning in Corbyn.

I'm not against the left, just because my political spectrum is right doesnt mean I can't respect and understand the importance of the other side of the political spectrum. However the far left is as dangerous as the far right and many are blindly walking into that on little better ideaology than "right bad, left good"

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Re: Look both ways before you cross
« Reply #44 on: June 28, 2017, 04:56:34 pm »
In my estimation, the core principle of conservatives is to maintain status quo.

Also in my estimation, the status quo consists of rigid hierarchical power structures, economic inequality, systemic racism, and class inequity.

Therefore, I believe much of conservative thought is designed for the ruling class (the Haves) to hold on to their power over the rest of society (the Have Nots).

A "balance of left and right" (i.e. a balance of conservative and liberal thought) is to agree that the (ine)qualities of the status quo should be at least partially maintained.

At least, that's what my radical progressive mind daydreams about.