Windows 10

[Faust]

I'm not really concerned about government over reach but there are examples of it occuring more and more frequently, my fear is the curated feeds allows for very specific narratives to be sent to a broad range of people, tailored against their profile. It's already being used to make people susceptable to buying specific kinds of products but it could very easily be hijacked for a method of widespread social control.

[trix]

My fear is that Donald Trump is in charge of the United States.  Beyond that, almost everywhere dangerous, often exceptionally stupid and short-sighted assholes are in charge. The potential power in the hands of these dangerous assholes seems to be increasing exponentially.

Those in charge are ever the wrong sort to be in charge.

What gets my goat is we have an entire field of study dedicated to solving complex problems, full of highly trained extremely intelligent people with a high level of talent at solving complex problems.  We call them engineers.  But instead of giving them the power to solve the complex problems of government and managing people, we task them to build nukes and $600 robotic auto-cleaning cat litter boxes.  We give the role of governing our big nations to idiots with skill-sets that include reading speeches from a teleprompter and out-yelling the other guy, etc, and normally have very little problem-solving abilities or even the ability to use rational thinking.

Then again, given enough time and free reign, and these idiots will solve all of our problems, permanently.

But now I'm off topic.

Windows 10 is AIDS.  Don't do AIDS.

[Frontside Back]

Been trying to make a habit out of messing with the AI. I actually managed to get my facebook ads in spanish by posting for a while though google translate. If everybody did this we could hurt its ability to get meaningful data out of people. Maybe implementing a bot to google random sentences while you are afk to drown the actual user input in noise or similar tactics could be used.

Oh well, I can't get general public behind this anyway, so AI will grow big and strong and soon control us all. Hope it won't find this message.

[Prelate Diogenes Shandor]

I think Winaero Tweaker can kill windows telemetry

[Prelate Diogenes Shandor]

In further news:

A lawsuit over an unwanted Windows 10 upgrade just cost Microsoft $10,000
http://www.pcworld.com/article/3088...ows-10-upgrade-just-cost-microsoft-10000.html

Microsoft backs off sneaky Windows 10 upgrade tricks with simple new pop-up
http://www.pcworld.com/article/3089...10-upgrade-tricks-with-simple-new-pop-up.html

Oh and did I mention they've implemented some of their spyware bullshit into Windows 7 and 8 now, using the Updates?  Yup.   Not all of it, since the Win7 and Win8 EULA isn't quite as horrifying as Win10, but as much as they could get away with.

This is why I keep windows update turned off. People keep telling me that that leaves me vulnerable to viruses but I personally feel that if the update itself is going to steal my personal information and/or stop my computer from working it kind of defeats the purpose

[THE QLIPHITISER]

So they watch us masturbating?       

[axod]

You have nothing to hide!

[THE QLIPHITISER]

You have nothing to hide!

May as well give those perverts at Windows a show to remember!   

[Anna Mae Bollocks]

I heard the Win10 updates can kill Classic Shell. And Classic Shell won't be making any new versions with fixes for that.
So, I have some kind of error going on - Windows TRIES to update, and I get an error message with some kind of number string that I'm supposed to contact Windows with.
So far, I haven't.

Not as good as giving them a show to remember, but it's good when you can keep them from fucking your shit up, even a little bit.

[THE QLIPHITISER]

I've been getting so many update notifications lately that I've stopped doing it.....in fact.....I'm gonna be changing to another operating system soon.

Windows, as always....can suck dick, I'm not putting up with it for much longer, that's for sure.



Still, is it wrong that I find it amusing rather than scary, that they watch me while I jerk off?   

[Prelate Diogenes Shandor]

I heard the Win10 updates can kill Classic Shell. And Classic Shell won't be making any new versions with fixes for that.

Which really puts the lie to the people who claim that disabling updates may harm your computer.

I'll roll those dice given that leaving updates on will definitely harm my computer.

(BTW, is there any way to delete the update service entirely?)

[POFP]

(BTW, is there any way to delete the update service entirely?)

From what I've found in previous research, no. I'm sure there is a way, but it'll likely take hours to figure out, and I don't exactly have Windows 10 at my disposal here at work. It looks like there may be some ways to disable it if you're using Windows 10 Professional or higher. But beyond that, it looks like you might be looking at isolating the updating software on your own, and either removing the files manually and any pointers to them in the Registry, or deleting any trace of them using a separately booted OS to bypass embedded Windows Security measures that might run at boot time or with the OS.

Since they were so dedicated to the idea of maintaining forced Updates at all times, I suspect the Automatic update software is broken into multiple system files/processes that are connected to other necessary System Apps, or it is simply embedded in a specific, necessary system file/process. I also suspect that in order to remove the Automatic Updates permanently, you would need to 1.) Circumvent OS File checks at startup so that you can 2.) Patch the file(s) the update software is embedded into (like maybe inserting a simple JUMP over the update code).

I've got a computer that can run Windows 10, and I did consider taking a look at it for the sole purpose of removing the update software permanently. If/when I do end up installing Windows 10 on it, I'll let you know what I find. Unless of course you find a way to remove it first. I feel like someone's been able to remove it by now.

I'm sure you could find something if you Googled long enough. Because when it comes to application security, it's almost never about "Can we break it?" It's about "When will it be broken?"


EDIT: It appears that they've found a few workarounds after a quick Google Search.

[Prelate Diogenes Shandor]

(BTW, is there any way to delete the update service entirely?)

From what I've found in previous research, no. I'm sure there is a way, but it'll likely take hours to figure out, and I don't exactly have Windows 10 at my disposal here at work. It looks like there may be some ways to disable it if you're using Windows 10 Professional or higher. But beyond that, it looks like you might be looking at isolating the updating software on your own, and either removing the files manually

This is precisely what I'm talking about. Does anybody know the specific files so I can delete them?

[Anna Mae Bollocks]

I heard the Win10 updates can kill Classic Shell. And Classic Shell won't be making any new versions with fixes for that.

Which really puts the lie to the people who claim that disabling updates may harm your computer.

I'll roll those dice given that leaving updates on will definitely harm my computer.

(BTW, is there any way to delete the update service entirely?)

I don't think it's even a dice roll.
I turned updates completely off when I had Windows 8, for several years. People were telling me it was a bad idea, but nothing happened.
What finally made me have to buy a new laptop was a typical HP cheap plastic issue: the plastic under the display hinge developed a crack, and eventually broke away. And it took some things on the circuit board with it.

PoFP - thanks. I probably won't be techy enough to pull it off, but in my case it's OK. Because all my "updates" do is make me click "Hide" on an error message screen.

[Doktor Howl]

I heard the Win10 updates can kill Classic Shell. And Classic Shell won't be making any new versions with fixes for that.
So, I have some kind of error going on - Windows TRIES to update, and I get an error message with some kind of number string that I'm supposed to contact Windows with.
So far, I haven't.

Not as good as giving them a show to remember, but it's good when you can keep them from fucking your shit up, even a little bit.

That update finally roofied my computer.  It's basically a way to let microsoft look at your Android phone, if you have one.

Good ahead and look, dumbass.  There's nothing but horror in the DCIM folder.