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Re: a running list of reasons why we are fucked and there is no hope.
« Reply #30 on: December 16, 2017, 06:50:02 am »
Why nihilism?
Do you think everyone else here can't also see how fucked things are? What good is hopelessness?
If you truly believe that nothing can be done and there is no hope, why not just kill yourself now (please don't take this the wrong way, I am not telling you to kill yourself) ? Or ignore the hopelessness of the situation and have fun while the world still exists?
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Re: a running list of reasons why we are fucked and there is no hope.
« Reply #31 on: December 17, 2017, 03:35:24 am »
We all have our limits of what we can handle, but at what point does pessimism become a self-fulfilling cycle of guaranteed failure? No one knows how this shit is going to pan out. There is no useful precedent to compare to.

Playing down your agency as a human is a safe bet though, because wallowing in your sense of helplessness is the “thoughts and prayers” of the left right now. It exempts your sad sack ass from having to spend energy even imagining what may be within your power to influence, let alone blazing a trail to goddamn victory.

But that’s okay. No single person or ideology is going to fix this, and everybody needs a break from time to time.

You Gen-Xers are in love with being jaded pragmatists, which is fine. I find it quite endearing how you cast yourselves as stoic, anti-hero observers that disavow any charges of seeming slightly optimistic about anything, but nonetheless still contribute towards the greater good like the ironic little fuckweasels you are.

I can still see the hope stains on your shoes though.
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Re: a running list of reasons why we are fucked and there is no hope.
« Reply #32 on: December 17, 2017, 06:20:08 pm »
Why nihilism?
Do you think everyone else here can't also see how fucked things are? What good is hopelessness?
If you truly believe that nothing can be done and there is no hope, why not just kill yourself now (please don't take this the wrong way, I am not telling you to kill yourself) ? Or ignore the hopelessness of the situation and have fun while the world still exists?

I'm bad at expressing the exact emotions attached to this state of affairs. My outlook isn't one of nihilism, exactly. It's more like frustrated apocalypticism.

We all have our limits of what we can handle, but at what point does pessimism become a self-fulfilling cycle of guaranteed failure? No one knows how this shit is going to pan out. There is no useful precedent to compare to.

Playing down your agency as a human is a safe bet though, because wallowing in your sense of helplessness is the “thoughts and prayers” of the left right now. It exempts your sad sack ass from having to spend energy even imagining what may be within your power to influence, let alone blazing a trail to goddamn victory.

But that’s okay. No single person or ideology is going to fix this, and everybody needs a break from time to time.

You Gen-Xers are in love with being jaded pragmatists, which is fine. I find it quite endearing how you cast yourselves as stoic, anti-hero observers that disavow any charges of seeming slightly optimistic about anything, but nonetheless still contribute towards the greater good like the ironic little fuckweasels you are.

I can still see the hope stains on your shoes though.

a ) I'm a millennial, young man.
b ) you're probably right about everything else, but at this point i'd rather see a nuclear apocalypse than put any effort into fixing things.
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Re: a running list of reasons why we are fucked and there is no hope.
« Reply #33 on: December 17, 2017, 06:38:42 pm »
In case you haven't been paying attention, we're always fucked. There is never any hope and this time it is always different. This time it's usually foreals, as opposed to all the other times before where we were told it was foreals but it turned out not to be, this time it truly is. Just like all those other times.

Worrying about whatever brand of foreals bullshit is being paraded as the end of civilisation this month got old for me some time around my mid 20's. The last one I remember giving a passing fuck about was the nuclear holocaust that failed to materialise, with clockwork regularity, on the hour, every hour for about a decade and a half, thus ruining any shot of passing into adolescence and planning for the future I might have had.

Protip: We are not fucked. We never have been and, to the best of my knowledge, we never will be. Now I know that's not what you might want to hear but, unfortunately for you, that's how it is. And always has been, ever since the first hysterical monkey learned to rub his opposable, panic stricken thumbs together and yell "We're fucked and there is no hope" Primate was wrong then and he's still wrong seven billion years down the line.

In an existential sense, yeah, sure we're fucked. Pretty soon each and every one of us is going to start rotting and dying and, if you manage to avoid being crushed by a falling piano, the best you have to look forward to is trying to remember who your family are and how to piss and shit without it filling up your trousers. Yeah, in this sense we are all fucked. To death. There is no Jesus, Allah or the fucking tooth fairy going to stick you back together again. Couple of years from now - you die. Enjoy.

Meanwhile you got options. You can either worry about how hard you are about to be fucked (foreals this time) or you can choose to not give a shit about the impending dildo apocalypse or, even better, to laugh at all the assholes throwing their life away whining about how it's not fair and how we're all fucked. There are victims on every corner. Corners they mostly painted themselves into and refuse to leave. That shit's funny if you have the stomach to laugh. If you don't then yeah, we're all fucked.

Foreals this time.

Enjoy.



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Re: a running list of reasons why we are fucked and there is no hope.
« Reply #34 on: December 18, 2017, 07:55:26 pm »
In case you haven't been paying attention, we're always fucked. There is never any hope and this time it is always different. This time it's usually foreals, as opposed to all the other times before where we were told it was foreals but it turned out not to be, this time it truly is. Just like all those other times.

Worrying about whatever brand of foreals bullshit is being paraded as the end of civilisation this month got old for me some time around my mid 20's. The last one I remember giving a passing fuck about was the nuclear holocaust that failed to materialise, with clockwork regularity, on the hour, every hour for about a decade and a half, thus ruining any shot of passing into adolescence and planning for the future I might have had.

Protip: We are not fucked. We never have been and, to the best of my knowledge, we never will be. Now I know that's not what you might want to hear but, unfortunately for you, that's how it is. And always has been, ever since the first hysterical monkey learned to rub his opposable, panic stricken thumbs together and yell "We're fucked and there is no hope" Primate was wrong then and he's still wrong seven billion years down the line.

In an existential sense, yeah, sure we're fucked. Pretty soon each and every one of us is going to start rotting and dying and, if you manage to avoid being crushed by a falling piano, the best you have to look forward to is trying to remember who your family are and how to piss and shit without it filling up your trousers. Yeah, in this sense we are all fucked. To death. There is no Jesus, Allah or the fucking tooth fairy going to stick you back together again. Couple of years from now - you die. Enjoy.

Meanwhile you got options. You can either worry about how hard you are about to be fucked (foreals this time) or you can choose to not give a shit about the impending dildo apocalypse or, even better, to laugh at all the assholes throwing their life away whining about how it's not fair and how we're all fucked. There are victims on every corner. Corners they mostly painted themselves into and refuse to leave. That shit's funny if you have the stomach to laugh. If you don't then yeah, we're all fucked.

Foreals this time.

Enjoy.

It's a little more than the usual, this time.  The tax bill they're voting on tomorrow, for example, basically makes merit-based grad school a thing of the past.  As in, if you can't lay out the $$$, you can't go at all (the tax bill states that the waived tuition and stipend become taxable as income).  Zenpatista, here, runs a flock of grad students, and will probably lose the bunch of them.  Which cripples the chemistry department at the university here.

The bill also further cripples education from K-12.

So what happens is we suddenly have an outright aristocracy in function as well as form.
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Re: a running list of reasons why we are fucked and there is no hope.
« Reply #35 on: December 18, 2017, 10:44:47 pm »
A major evil rises to menace America about every 70-90 years. The last one was the Third Reich and Imperial Japan, and before that there was the Confederacy
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Re: a running list of reasons why we are fucked and there is no hope.
« Reply #36 on: December 18, 2017, 10:54:45 pm »
A major evil rises to menace America about every 70-90 years. The last one was the Third Reich and Imperial Japan, and before that there was the Confederacy

well, they say the third time's the charm. The thing about the last two times was that the South never really had a chance. They were outnumbered and outgunned and had no manufacturing base. WWII was a bit closer, but still, America didn't even show up to the fight in Europe until the Nazis were already in an untenable position. The war in the Pacific was harder, but even if we'd lost there it isn't like Japan would have also invaded and conquered the mainland, at least not without the help of a Europe unified under Nazi Germany. This time around is sort of like the Civil War, except that the Confederates are already in power.
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Re: a running list of reasons why we are fucked and there is no hope.
« Reply #37 on: December 19, 2017, 07:25:54 pm »
In case you haven't been paying attention, we're always fucked. There is never any hope and this time it is always different. This time it's usually foreals, as opposed to all the other times before where we were told it was foreals but it turned out not to be, this time it truly is. Just like all those other times.

Worrying about whatever brand of foreals bullshit is being paraded as the end of civilisation this month got old for me some time around my mid 20's. The last one I remember giving a passing fuck about was the nuclear holocaust that failed to materialise, with clockwork regularity, on the hour, every hour for about a decade and a half, thus ruining any shot of passing into adolescence and planning for the future I might have had.

Protip: We are not fucked. We never have been and, to the best of my knowledge, we never will be. Now I know that's not what you might want to hear but, unfortunately for you, that's how it is. And always has been, ever since the first hysterical monkey learned to rub his opposable, panic stricken thumbs together and yell "We're fucked and there is no hope" Primate was wrong then and he's still wrong seven billion years down the line.

In an existential sense, yeah, sure we're fucked. Pretty soon each and every one of us is going to start rotting and dying and, if you manage to avoid being crushed by a falling piano, the best you have to look forward to is trying to remember who your family are and how to piss and shit without it filling up your trousers. Yeah, in this sense we are all fucked. To death. There is no Jesus, Allah or the fucking tooth fairy going to stick you back together again. Couple of years from now - you die. Enjoy.

Meanwhile you got options. You can either worry about how hard you are about to be fucked (foreals this time) or you can choose to not give a shit about the impending dildo apocalypse or, even better, to laugh at all the assholes throwing their life away whining about how it's not fair and how we're all fucked. There are victims on every corner. Corners they mostly painted themselves into and refuse to leave. That shit's funny if you have the stomach to laugh. If you don't then yeah, we're all fucked.

Foreals this time.

Enjoy.

It's a little more than the usual, this time.  The tax bill they're voting on tomorrow, for example, basically makes merit-based grad school a thing of the past.  As in, if you can't lay out the $$$, you can't go at all (the tax bill states that the waived tuition and stipend become taxable as income).  Zenpatista, here, runs a flock of grad students, and will probably lose the bunch of them.  Which cripples the chemistry department at the university here.

The bill also further cripples education from K-12.

So what happens is we suddenly have an outright aristocracy in function as well as form.

The funniest thing about this is that by slashing education related crap you're ensuing that this kind of stupidity will happen again, and again and again. And the people elected will just be worse each time too. You'll reminisce over idiot when you're dealing with President shkreli or President Actually The Reanimated Corpse of Reagan. 

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Re: a running list of reasons why we are fucked and there is no hope.
« Reply #38 on: December 19, 2017, 07:28:51 pm »
In case you haven't been paying attention, we're always fucked. There is never any hope and this time it is always different. This time it's usually foreals, as opposed to all the other times before where we were told it was foreals but it turned out not to be, this time it truly is. Just like all those other times.

Worrying about whatever brand of foreals bullshit is being paraded as the end of civilisation this month got old for me some time around my mid 20's. The last one I remember giving a passing fuck about was the nuclear holocaust that failed to materialise, with clockwork regularity, on the hour, every hour for about a decade and a half, thus ruining any shot of passing into adolescence and planning for the future I might have had.

Protip: We are not fucked. We never have been and, to the best of my knowledge, we never will be. Now I know that's not what you might want to hear but, unfortunately for you, that's how it is. And always has been, ever since the first hysterical monkey learned to rub his opposable, panic stricken thumbs together and yell "We're fucked and there is no hope" Primate was wrong then and he's still wrong seven billion years down the line.

In an existential sense, yeah, sure we're fucked. Pretty soon each and every one of us is going to start rotting and dying and, if you manage to avoid being crushed by a falling piano, the best you have to look forward to is trying to remember who your family are and how to piss and shit without it filling up your trousers. Yeah, in this sense we are all fucked. To death. There is no Jesus, Allah or the fucking tooth fairy going to stick you back together again. Couple of years from now - you die. Enjoy.

Meanwhile you got options. You can either worry about how hard you are about to be fucked (foreals this time) or you can choose to not give a shit about the impending dildo apocalypse or, even better, to laugh at all the assholes throwing their life away whining about how it's not fair and how we're all fucked. There are victims on every corner. Corners they mostly painted themselves into and refuse to leave. That shit's funny if you have the stomach to laugh. If you don't then yeah, we're all fucked.

Foreals this time.

Enjoy.

It's a little more than the usual, this time.  The tax bill they're voting on tomorrow, for example, basically makes merit-based grad school a thing of the past.  As in, if you can't lay out the $$$, you can't go at all (the tax bill states that the waived tuition and stipend become taxable as income).  Zenpatista, here, runs a flock of grad students, and will probably lose the bunch of them.  Which cripples the chemistry department at the university here.

The bill also further cripples education from K-12.

So what happens is we suddenly have an outright aristocracy in function as well as form.

The funniest thing about this is that by slashing education related crap you're ensuing that this kind of stupidity will happen again, and again and again. And the people elected will just be worse each time too. You'll reminisce over idiot when you're dealing with President shkreli or President Actually The Reanimated Corpse of Reagan. 




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Re: a running list of reasons why we are fucked and there is no hope.
« Reply #40 on: December 21, 2017, 07:40:30 am »
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Re: a running list of reasons why we are fucked and there is no hope.
« Reply #41 on: January 23, 2018, 08:46:18 am »
In case you haven't been paying attention, we're always fucked. There is never any hope and this time it is always different. This time it's usually foreals, as opposed to all the other times before where we were told it was foreals but it turned out not to be, this time it truly is. Just like all those other times.

Worrying about whatever brand of foreals bullshit is being paraded as the end of civilisation this month got old for me some time around my mid 20's. The last one I remember giving a passing fuck about was the nuclear holocaust that failed to materialise, with clockwork regularity, on the hour, every hour for about a decade and a half, thus ruining any shot of passing into adolescence and planning for the future I might have had.

Protip: We are not fucked. We never have been and, to the best of my knowledge, we never will be. Now I know that's not what you might want to hear but, unfortunately for you, that's how it is. And always has been, ever since the first hysterical monkey learned to rub his opposable, panic stricken thumbs together and yell "We're fucked and there is no hope" Primate was wrong then and he's still wrong seven billion years down the line.

In an existential sense, yeah, sure we're fucked. Pretty soon each and every one of us is going to start rotting and dying and, if you manage to avoid being crushed by a falling piano, the best you have to look forward to is trying to remember who your family are and how to piss and shit without it filling up your trousers. Yeah, in this sense we are all fucked. To death. There is no Jesus, Allah or the fucking tooth fairy going to stick you back together again. Couple of years from now - you die. Enjoy.

Meanwhile you got options. You can either worry about how hard you are about to be fucked (foreals this time) or you can choose to not give a shit about the impending dildo apocalypse or, even better, to laugh at all the assholes throwing their life away whining about how it's not fair and how we're all fucked. There are victims on every corner. Corners they mostly painted themselves into and refuse to leave. That shit's funny if you have the stomach to laugh. If you don't then yeah, we're all fucked.

Foreals this time.

Enjoy.
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Re: a running list of reasons why we are fucked and there is no hope.
« Reply #42 on: January 23, 2018, 08:55:50 am »
1. We are not fucked, we probably don't get any sex anyway
2. There is no pope, we are all popes
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Re: a running list of reasons why we are fucked and there is no hope.
« Reply #43 on: March 03, 2018, 07:12:25 am »
Apparently Putin announced in a supervillain monologue last night that he's restarting the arms race because he's tired of the world not listening to him
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