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A challenge for all Bush-Haters

Started by Anonymous, January 20, 2005, 12:33:58 AM

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The Good Reverend Roger

Quote from: agent compassion
QuoteIt's the software inside people's heads that wins wars nowadays. You hardware freaks are going to have to face that fact one of these days. And it's this brain-software that we're hopeless at programming. Iraq has proved pretty clearly we don't have a clue how to use the Middle-Eastern brain OS. In fact, we've actually done the impossible: reprogrammed the miserable, cowardly Iraqis into fierce warriors.

Remember Gulf War I? Remember those pitiful fags crawling up to our soldiers to surrender on their hands and knees, sobbing like babies? Two years of occupation by Bush's morons has turned those cowards into fearless kamikazes in Oldsmobiles.

Man, that article was really interesting! Thanks for sharing, Scribe.

The War Nerd ROCKS.

You want a link to the archive?
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

agent compassion

Quote from: RogerHi, I'm an AMERICAN!

Hi, I just shoved my arm in a hornets nest, and I'm about to do the same with my dick! I'm an AMERICAN!

America, FUCK YEAH! Comin' again to save the motherfuckin' day, yeah!
America, FUCK YEAH! Freedom is the only way, yeah!


'I'll take you out for a meal with Mr. and Mrs. Pain, order up some violent quiche. Do you want some?' - ++++++ Moon


East Coast Hustle

I do, but you'll probably just direct me to google.com....

8)
Rabid Colostomy Hole Jammer of the Coming Apocalypse™

The Devil is in the details; God is in the nuance.


Some yahoo yelled at me, saying 'GIVE ME LIBERTY OR GIVE ME DEATH', and I thought, "I'm feeling generous today.  Why not BOTH?"

The Good Reverend Roger

Quote from: agent compassion
Quote from: Roger"Hi, I'm an AMERICAN!

Hi, I just shoved my arm in a hornets nest, and I'm about to do the same with my dick! I'm an AMERICAN!

America, FUCK YEAH! Comin' again to save the motherfuckin' day, yeah!
America, FUCK YEAH! Freedom is the only way, yeah!


My RElAtiVeS AlL gOt KilLED bY IeDS anD I sTIll VotED fOr BUsH AgAIn!
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" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

The Good Reverend Roger

Quote from: GOATI do, but you'll probably just direct me to google.com....

8)

Oh, Ye of little faith...

http://www.exile.ru/archive/by_author/gary_brecher.html
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

Horab Fibslager

Quote from: Voice of TruthWell I won't gloat, but I'm glad things went far better than many thought they would.  Also, Agent Compassion said "It depends on which Iraqis you ask."  Well unless you asked some displaced Sunnis who have oppressed the majority for 30 years, everyone is happy.  I heard a guy on NPR today say that it would be like saying an election in South Africa lacked credibility because the whites decided to boycott it.  I thought that was a good analogy.  So who fucking cares if the Sunnis are upset that their 30 year hold on illigitimate power has come to an end and who fucking cares if they're upset about it.  If they're smart, they'll get with it and create political groups that will at least establish them a proportionate share of power.  As of now, all others in Iraq like what's going down, and that can only be a good thing.

That being said, again, I won't gloat because I am still in agreement with the gnome that it's not over.  This was one of the most difficult parts of the process, but the training of Iraqi security forces is the other component and it's not over yet.  But, Scribe said:

"It hasnt changed anything though. There is still terrorism, the insurgency continues to rip through the Iraqi forces like it wasnt there. Yes, it is good that they have voted. But will the winner live long enough to compete in the next elections?"

Actually there are increasing reports that this is changing.  Our forces that have been working in coordination with Iraqi forces, who openly admitted that they were not holding their own in combat, have started saying otherwise.  In about the last month or so, I guess as the election grew nearer, they began to show much greater efforts and successes in fighting the insurgency, especially the Iraqi army as opposed to the police.  This is still an effort that is far from over, but it continues to be headed in the right direction and this was another huge step that way.  Yes, all revolutions see innocents lose their lives.  It's a shitty thing, but inevitable.

I also saw some analysis talking about how many on the left have really positioned themselves, whether intentionally or not, where bad news out of Iraq is good news for them politically and good news out of Iraq, such as this, presents them with a dilemma where they don't want to ever give any praise to the administration so they have to delicately commend the Iraqis and condemn Bush all in the same breathe.  Ted Kennedy is at the front of this group.  His best days are the ones in which lots of Americans get killed.  Whether you agree with this war and administratoin or not, that's a shitty place to be.

there is no such thing as illegitimate power. it is not the mandate of any state to dictate to soverign nations what form of government they may or may not have, regardless of the corruption, ruthlessness or presumed evil thereof.

yet another n00b who thinks he knows a damned thing about anything, but really just eats the propghanda spoonfed to him without realizing that government and polticians consider part of their jobs to lie constantly to their constituents(no seriously, when you go to school to become a politician, this is what you are taught).


you're challenge is no challenge because it's uber presumptuous that you can begin to compete with anyone on this board when it comes to the intelectual capacity to make a decision for yourself. i don't usually  degrade a person based on intelect, as i find it a poor indicator fo a peron's worth, but you presuem that you are intelectually capable of understanding things that you constantly demonstrate that you do not understand.
Hell is other people.

agent compassion

Quote(no seriously, when you go to school to become a politician, this is what you are taught).

Wow. It's a good thing I don't want to be a politician then.

'I'll take you out for a meal with Mr. and Mrs. Pain, order up some violent quiche. Do you want some?' - ++++++ Moon


Voice of Truth

So then you think apartheid in Africa was "legitimate"?  You think the Soviet rule of the Eastern block was "legitimate"?  You think Fidel's rule over Cuba is "legitimate"?  You think Saddam's rule over his people was "legitimate"?  You think our institution of slavery, and the lack of voting rights for women were "legitimate"?  Sorry, I guess I'll stick with being "intellectually incapable" of understanding "legitimacy" if you think this to be the case.  Yes, "Vote for me or you will not wake up alive tomorrow."  Now that's what I call legitimacy!! :roll:
Such pain I feel for not being a Discordian...

The Good Reverend Roger

Quote from: Voice of TruthSo then you think apartheid in Africa was "legitimate"?  You think the Soviet rule of the Eastern block was "legitimate"?  You think Fidel's rule over Cuba is "legitimate"?  You think Saddam's rule over his people was "legitimate"?  You think our institution of slavery, and the lack of voting rights for women were "legitimate"?  Sorry, I guess I'll stick with being "intellectually incapable" of understanding "legitimacy" if you think this to be the case.  Yes, "Vote for me or you will not wake up alive tomorrow."  Now that's what I call legitimacy!! :roll:

"Legitimacy" comes from the barrel of a gun...here, as well as the shitholes named above.
" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

Voice of Truth

So you have guns pointed at you when you vote in Illinois?  That's funny because you guys voted for Kerry.  What's that tell you? :lol:
Such pain I feel for not being a Discordian...

agent compassion

::picks up VoT, puts him over her knee and starts spanking him, gently but firmly::

That's a naughty little neocon! No more debate for you tonight, mister, it's past your bedtime! Now go to bed!

:twisted:

'I'll take you out for a meal with Mr. and Mrs. Pain, order up some violent quiche. Do you want some?' - ++++++ Moon


The Good Reverend Roger

Quote from: Voice of TruthSo you have guns pointed at you when you vote in Illinois?  That's funny because you guys voted for Kerry.  What's that tell you? :lol:

AYRTS?  IA?

If you want a demonstration of the USA's legitimacy coming from the barrel of a gun, please refer to American History, circa 1860-65.

Or just tell the IRS to fuck off.

" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

Horab Fibslager

yes given the 4000 years or so of human history i consider any state wether it is a state based on laws or force of arms, to be completely legitmate, based ont he fact that eitehrway it's still based on threat of arms.

i mean because if you want to get into it, we shoudl really disband america and give it back to the red man as after all, we stole his land, oppressed him, raped hsi women, slaughtered his children and destroyed his cutlure. we should ivnade england, because they're brutal war with ireland during 1980's involved killing torturing and imprisoning innopcent non combatants, and pretty nvade the entire world, dipose their leaders, etc.

all states and fors fo governemnt are legitimate because the precedent of human history.

this current american government is settign a very dangerous precedent, which may very well spell the end of american civilization, wether that civilization dies from foriegn invaders or from it's own unwillingness to think critically or beyonf their own personal immidiate wants.
Hell is other people.

The Good Reverend Roger

" It's just that Depeche Mode were a bunch of optimistic loveburgers."
- TGRR, shaming himself forever, 7/8/2017

"Billy, when I say that ethics is our number one priority and safety is also our number one priority, you should take that to mean exactly what I said. Also quality. That's our number one priority as well. Don't look at me that way, you're in the corporate world now and this is how it works."
- TGRR, raising the bar at work.

Voice of Truth

It's bad enought that you guys lack creativity in your anti-Bush rhetoric, but then there is shit like this:

"this current american government is settign a very dangerous precedent, which may very well spell the end of american civilization, wether that civilization dies from foriegn invaders or from it's own unwillingness to think critically or beyonf their own personal immidiate wants."

Don't you ever find youself laughing at your own words when you type such loaded bs.  This is the kind of crap that makes people like Rush and Ann Coulter rich talking about how big of idiots some on the left really are.  I'm well aware many of you have legitimate (hate to use that word again so soon) reasons for not liking Bush and this war, but shit like this is just fucking stupid, to be blunt.  If this is really something you truly feel deep down then you need to go have a coke and a smile and shut the fuck up. :wink:

My bad, then you'll be supporting an "evil" American corporation, and we wouldn't want to do that. :lol:
Such pain I feel for not being a Discordian...