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Started by tyrannosaurus vex, April 08, 2018, 12:19:33 AM

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tyrannosaurus vex

Since the 21st Century insists on being an era wholly dedicated to the pursuit of increasingly extreme and inter-contradictory philosophies, I have decided to embrace my own extremism so as not to be left behind the bandwagon. To that end, I am going to put down in writing some of my more controversial beliefs, so that I can come back here periodically and ensure that I am making sufficient progress in evolving from these points farther and farther up my own asshole. So, here's where I'm starting from.

1. The morally offensive nature of environmentalism.
The general consensus, even among conservatives (if only nominally), is that it would be preferable, if possible, to preserve some or all of Earth's ecosystem. I find this notion distasteful. Our planet's purpose is not to wallow in its genetic diversity, but to provide a laboratory in which evolution can experiment. Once sentience arises, all other forms of biological life immediately become expendable, except insofar as they are necessary for the preservation of that sentience. For this reason, we should only preserve whatever portion of the natural ecosystem is required to ensure the continued survival of the human species, and treat everything else as raw materials for our own experiments and progress toward more communicable forms of sentience. If we have to burn down entire rain forests to achieve interstellar travel, for example, then that's a more than appropriate price to pay for such technological achievement. All natural environments, and all the creatures in those environments, exist solely to power our own endeavors and we should not limit our abilities or potential just out of deference to some silly assertion that they have a right to exist. If they really had a right to exist, they would have evolved thumbs and invented nukes before we did.

2. Democracy is a bad idea and should be avoided in most cases.
The belief that humans are capable of sanely managing our own affairs is flawed, even at an individual level. At the level of large societies, it's just an invitation to outright disaster. So-called "free" societies are powered by the transfer of labor and capital from those who have it to those who are taking it, and this is an inherently limited dynamic with a definite point at which the whole thing begins to break down. Once such a society reaches a point where lower classes can no longer satisfy the limitless appetites of the upper classes, the society inevitably decays as those appetites turn to their own infrastructure for sustenance. Eventually, you get places like Mississippi and Oklahoma where civilization is mostly running on habit. This happens everywhere humans are allowed to govern themselves, and also everywhere humans are allowed to govern others. I propose an alternative system where no one is in charge, but a strict regime of social order is enforced by artificial intelligence programmed to efficiently distribute social resources, and which has absolutely no tolerance for human deviation from prescribed patterns. It won't be fun, but it will be sustainable, and that's what matters. As an added benefit, this system would completely eradicate legal and political professions, which is practically a justification in and of itself. To this end, the focus of all human scientific research should be on the invention of machine intelligence and robotic automation sufficient to implement this system.

3. The Human ego is bad and should be removed.
Ultimately, most human suffering arises from the notion that we exist as individuals somehow separate from "other" individuals. This infectious illusion allows us to imagine that there is some such thing as "us" and "them". While great thinkers have popped up for thousands of years trying to dispel this myth, they have all met with similar ends. Usually, we kill them, then we worship them as a symbol that justifies our persecution of other groups. Clearly, this philosophical/spiritual approach to solving the ego problem has failed miserably. As a solution, I propose that either we implement a system of compulsory excision of the prefrontal cortex in new human offspring, or the we develop invasive brain probes which merge the sensory input and internal thought processes of all individuals into a single "consciousness". While the former is probably more realistic at our relatively primitive level of technological advancement, the latter is preferable for a number of reasons including the potential loss of intelligence required to invent the AI called for in point #2.
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tyrannosaurus vex

Quote from: Doktor Howl on April 08, 2018, 06:34:49 PM
So you've become a Borg?

More like... obligatory transhumanist. Basically the same as the Borg, but with more colors.
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Doktor Howl

Quote from: tyrannosaurus vex on April 08, 2018, 10:09:58 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on April 08, 2018, 06:34:49 PM
So you've become a Borg?

More like... obligatory transhumanist. Basically the same as the Borg, but with more colors.

I am oddly okay with this.
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Cain

I'm not.  Other colours are a waste, green LEDS only or go home.

P3nT4gR4m

I'm with you on the environmental thing. I keep hearing "Preserve our fragile ecosystem" Fuck that shit. If it's so fucking fragile it can't handle a few megatons of humpback whale being dumped into the drinking water without failing catastrophically then it's not fit for purpose. Tear down our fragile ecosystem and build something more robust I say. And, while we're at it we should hunt down the last remaining giant pandas and nail them to fence posts as a warning to any other species who thinks only eating fucking bamboo is an acceptable way to approach evolutionary sustainability. Eat cheeseburgers or go extinct fuckheads! :argh!:

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Doktor Howl

Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on April 09, 2018, 09:01:51 AM
Tear down our fragile ecosystem and build something more robust I say.

Well, we have the first part sorted.
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zarathustrasbastardson

The only thing wrong is your entire premise.  If you were correct you would simply have to kill yourself while raping a baby seal with a Sibyian.  How extreme are you about your beliefs?

P.s don't rape or kill anyone or anything.  It's not that quite discordian.

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Quote from: Doktor Howl on April 10, 2018, 12:56:38 AM
Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on April 09, 2018, 09:01:51 AM
Tear down our fragile ecosystem and build something more robust I say.

Well, we have the first part sorted.
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Quote from: P3nT4gR4m on April 09, 2018, 09:01:51 AM
I'm with you on the environmental thing. I keep hearing "Preserve our fragile ecosystem" Fuck that shit. If it's so fucking fragile it can't handle a few megatons of humpback whale being dumped into the drinking water without failing catastrophically then it's not fit for purpose. Tear down our fragile ecosystem and build something more robust I say. And, while we're at it we should hunt down the last remaining giant pandas and nail them to fence posts as a warning to any other species who thinks only eating fucking bamboo is an acceptable way to approach evolutionary sustainability. Eat cheeseburgers or go extinct fuckheads! :argh!:
It's called milk, cereal and discipline bitch.

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Doktor Howl

Well, shit.  Crazytown has arrived.
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zarathustrasbastardson

Quote from: Doktor Howl on April 12, 2018, 01:23:12 AM
Vex, just say the word.
See the real issue is that you pussies talk and play a good game but are impotent when it comes to finishing.  By that I mean killing. Not just cows and cheese. But the humanity you loathe so much.  Kill me. Kill me congregation. Stop killing innocent cows and kill me!

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zarathustrasbastardson

Quote from: zarathustrasbastardson on April 12, 2018, 01:50:01 AM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on April 12, 2018, 01:23:12 AM
Vex, just say the word.
See the real issue is that you pussies talk and play a good game but are impotent when it comes to finishing.  By that I mean killing. Not just cows and cheese. But the humanity you loathe so much.  Kill me. Kill me congregation. Stop killing innocent cows and kill me!

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