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Re: Being a little wrong to be completely right
« Reply #15 on: December 04, 2019, 02:50:13 pm »
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Werner Herzog
The only thing I had heard of him was in relation to Pokémon Go. His work sounds quite... interesting. While I don't know if I'd favor a world where all documentaries are in his style, I think we're better off having some. I think that in a way, in being disonest he gains a different form of honesty, because no piece of media can truly be free of influence from its creator, and he's upfront about that.

EDIT: Also, are you the "Cram" that The Johnny had referred to?

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Re: Being a little wrong to be completely right
« Reply #16 on: December 04, 2019, 02:50:24 pm »
I don't think you're grasping at straws; I think you smell the Discordian spirit.

Which means She was here---and She left her dirty laundry everywhere.




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Re: Being a little wrong to be completely right
« Reply #17 on: December 04, 2019, 02:55:35 pm »
I don't think you're grasping at straws; I think you smell the Discordian spirit.

Which means She was here---and She left her dirty laundry everywhere.




and yes, they call me Cram for short, but that's because my full holy name is too powerful

Also, it attracts the feds' search engines.
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Re: Being a little wrong to be completely right
« Reply #18 on: December 04, 2019, 03:37:00 pm »
I was under the impression that Verite was abandoned as objectivity, as someone observed (was it James Baldwin?) that the act of pointing the camera was already making a choice of what to exclude from the presented reality, which makes the film just as subjective as anything else.

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Re: Being a little wrong to be completely right
« Reply #19 on: December 04, 2019, 03:42:41 pm »
I was under the impression that Verite was abandoned as objectivity, as someone observed (was it James Baldwin?) that the act of pointing the camera was already making a choice of what to exclude from the presented reality, which makes the film just as subjective as anything else.

This issue was solved when Busta Rhymes invented the 360 degree fish eye lens.
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Re: Being a little wrong to be completely right
« Reply #20 on: December 04, 2019, 04:04:55 pm »
I was under the impression that Verite was abandoned as objectivity, as someone observed (was it James Baldwin?) that the act of pointing the camera was already making a choice of what to exclude from the presented reality, which makes the film just as subjective as anything else.

yeah - I'm not terribly well read on the theory-discussion, but that was part of the debate - you can never really have an objective point of view, but the Cimena Verite people thought you should try to get as close as possible.


I'm not entirely clear on what the difference is, these days, between a documentarist and a journalist.