The New Wave

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There's a part of me that's ready to just do some shity marketing for a living. Why fight the course of the universe?

Always remember that you are fortunate if you can say this. If I don't fight the course of the universe, it will kill me.

[The Wizard Joseph]

There's a part of me that's ready to just do some shity marketing for a living. Why fight the course of the universe?

Always remember that you are fortunate if you can say this. If I don't fight the course of the universe, it will kill me.

I'd like to point out that it will kill you either way.

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There's a part of me that's ready to just do some shity marketing for a living. Why fight the course of the universe?

Always remember that you are fortunate if you can say this. If I don't fight the course of the universe, it will kill me.

I'd like to point out that it will kill you either way.

It's a difference in how painful, demeaning and drawn out.

[Doktor Howl]

I'd like to point out that we have a ration system for misery and you will all wait your turn.

[altered]

I'd like to point out that we have a ration system for misery and you will all wait your turn.

If I cut in line, do I go to the back or the front?

[Don Coyote]

I'd like to point out that we have a ration system for misery and you will all wait your turn.

If I cut in line, do I go to the back or the front?

Yes

[LMNO]

From the CTC:

Some hear about Discordia, and plot against the Machine™.
Some hear about Discordia, and think about it at great length.
Some hear about Discordia, and decide it means they should get high and doodle.
If it weren't for those spags, Discordia wouldn't be as interesting as it is.

Order appears calming and sensible.
Disorder appears unsettling and unstable.
Doubt appears ignorant.
Certainty appears true.
Aggression appears confident.
Mirth appears uncaring.
Horror appears powerless.
All these are lies.

Uncertainty reveals itself as a narrow footbridge,
but with its heart in Chaos, the path is clear.

[hooplala]

Hark, beware for there be rantings ahead.

I made this account to reply to this post. To do so, I had to wait two days before my account was even accepted.
It's obvious this community, PrincipiaDiscordia.com doesn't see many outsiders with differing opinions, because it's such a hassle to even get through.
Talking with others online, this website is often seen as a safe space for left-wing leaning Discordians.
I don't know anything more chaotic than disturbing the disorder within Discordianism with more order, as it keeps the Sacred Chao balanced, if anything, there's too little order.
It gives a different perspective to things, as Discordianism is a religion with a lot of followers and documentation, yet to this day nobody knows what to make of it, which perfectly defines it.

The issue I have with this forum in particular is that it's misleading.
The Discordian Society/The Eristocracy is so designed that any individual may begin their own sect/cabal and do as they please within that sect. This forum, instead has chosen to name itself after the entirety of the Principia, which makes one believe that the entirety of Discordianism is nothing but a bunch of angry old hippies yelling about bashing the fash.
It's a problem in that it turns many people who don't follow those beliefs away from Discordianism.
Just because you don't expect serious people to fit as well with Discordianism, such an opinion is one you shouldn't share.
Discordianism is designed to be decentralized, It's a religion and not a political ideology.

Personally, I'm a very serious person and take Discordianism very seriously, just because it seems so fiction-like.
Anyone may have any reason to like Hailing Eris, speaking ill of others because you claim them to have a bad influence on your religion is selfish.
Anyone who has read the Principia may choose to regard or disregard any other self-proclaimed Discordian works if they so please. Even POEE is merely one manifestation of the Discordian Society, anyone may rewrite a version of it at will, but when you do, choose a different name. Everybody should know their views to be purely subjective, and not apply them to the entirety of Discordianism, for it itself holds no inherent meaning but the various sects, cabals and undergroups that inhabit it.
If I so choose I may disregard any word Adam Gorightly has ever said about Discordianism, because frankly I believe Malaclypse to have had further secret intentions that were not shared by his peers.

Discordianism is both a religion and an irreligion, existing in a paradoxical position of being both serious and a joke at the same time. It is the Camus definition of the Acceptance of the Absurd, while retaining its likeness of Religion.
Define yourself as you wish, but don't claim to speak for everybody.

Hail Eris

If this site discourages discordians who favor fascism, I am personally comfortable with that.

[The Wizard Joseph]

Hark, beware for there be rantings ahead.

I made this account to reply to this post. To do so, I had to wait two days before my account was even accepted.
It's obvious this community, PrincipiaDiscordia.com doesn't see many outsiders with differing opinions, because it's such a hassle to even get through.
Talking with others online, this website is often seen as a safe space for left-wing leaning Discordians.
I don't know anything more chaotic than disturbing the disorder within Discordianism with more order, as it keeps the Sacred Chao balanced, if anything, there's too little order.
It gives a different perspective to things, as Discordianism is a religion with a lot of followers and documentation, yet to this day nobody knows what to make of it, which perfectly defines it.

The issue I have with this forum in particular is that it's misleading.
The Discordian Society/The Eristocracy is so designed that any individual may begin their own sect/cabal and do as they please within that sect. This forum, instead has chosen to name itself after the entirety of the Principia, which makes one believe that the entirety of Discordianism is nothing but a bunch of angry old hippies yelling about bashing the fash.
It's a problem in that it turns many people who don't follow those beliefs away from Discordianism.
Just because you don't expect serious people to fit as well with Discordianism, such an opinion is one you shouldn't share.
Discordianism is designed to be decentralized, It's a religion and not a political ideology.

Personally, I'm a very serious person and take Discordianism very seriously, just because it seems so fiction-like.
Anyone may have any reason to like Hailing Eris, speaking ill of others because you claim them to have a bad influence on your religion is selfish.
Anyone who has read the Principia may choose to regard or disregard any other self-proclaimed Discordian works if they so please. Even POEE is merely one manifestation of the Discordian Society, anyone may rewrite a version of it at will, but when you do, choose a different name. Everybody should know their views to be purely subjective, and not apply them to the entirety of Discordianism, for it itself holds no inherent meaning but the various sects, cabals and undergroups that inhabit it.
If I so choose I may disregard any word Adam Gorightly has ever said about Discordianism, because frankly I believe Malaclypse to have had further secret intentions that were not shared by his peers.

Discordianism is both a religion and an irreligion, existing in a paradoxical position of being both serious and a joke at the same time. It is the Camus definition of the Acceptance of the Absurd, while retaining its likeness of Religion.
Define yourself as you wish, but don't claim to speak for everybody.

Hail Eris

If this site discourages discordians who favor fascism, I am personally comfortable with that.

Me fuckin' too.

[The Wizard Joseph]

Cram I get the point of the OP. I've tried to wrap my Noggin around a way to 'save' discordia and I've concluded that it is not possible to save nor is saving it necessary. Cultural and spiritual appropriation is how the Nazis work. They will sell you literally any line of crap so long as you buy into it and obey. There lies the trap for fascism laid in discordia. How do you gain obedience out of a worldview that encourages disobedience and independent thought? You don't. They may attempt to make the sacred chao into a new swastika, but it is inherently a liberating symbol.

They can get away with turning a Thor's hammer into some kind of white nationalist secret code, or Co-opt Christian ideologies, or find purely rationalist scams to put on the atheists, but discordianism is a different form of Enlightenment entirely. I believe that any actual discordians involved in the alt right will quickly grow bored and begin to cause trouble. As for those pretending to be discordian they will quickly grow bored of the goofy symbolism and jokes they don't understand and eventually give up discordianism so they can go be obedient little cabbages.

The problem will resolve itself. If action needs to be taken then let it be a promotion of actual discordianism or at least the more valuable lessons to be found under the discordian roof. Perhaps it is best to focus on showing the good things that can be had and increasing public awareness while using the alt-right discordians as a stepping stone and Exemplar of what not to do with one's enlightenment.

In conclusion I believe the discordia will prevail whether or not a bunch of asshats like us take action or not. Personally I think it would be best to get ready for yet another major paradigm shift, one where discordianism steadily gains public attention and comes out of the Shadows somewhat. Eris will have her day on stage and that day is coming soon. There will be discordians on both sides of the fence. People who are already latently discordian will realize that they are. The cabbages will do what cabbages do And ignore what they don't understand.

It might be a few years before this comes to pass, but come to pass it will. Perhaps it would be best to focus on 'corrupting' the youth, perhaps a discordian children's book for example or something focused on the middle to high school age. Something easy to distribute that focuses on the intelligence, light-heartedness, freedom, and fun that attracted me to discordianism all those years ago.

Discordia is Not Dead Yet!

[Frontside Back]

Fascist discordianism would be basically pinealism. You just take the aesthetics and essence and wipe off all the parts that lead to people behaving unpredictably.

Imagine going to this giant fetishised hot dog stand every friday just to wait in line for hours as the local certified pope preaches about how this ritual is to remind you what crap all the other religions are.

[Doktor Howl]

Fascist discordianism would be basically pinealism. You just take the aesthetics and essence and wipe off all the parts that lead to people behaving unpredictably.

Imagine going to this giant fetishised hot dog stand every friday just to wait in line for hours as the local certified pope preaches about how this ritual is to remind you what crap all the other religions are.

Very much this.

[Doktor Howl]

If this site discourages discordians who favor fascism, I am personally comfortable with that.

This is a site that deliberately torments fascists, and then throws them the fuck out into the street.

[The Wizard Joseph]

If this site discourages discordians who favor fascism, I am personally comfortable with that.

This is a site that deliberately torments fascists, and then throws them the fuck out into the street.

Doing the Lord's work! Amen

[chaotic neutral observer]

...but discordianism is a different form of Enlightenment entirely.

What?  Discordianism leads to Enlightenment?  I must be doing it wrong.