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Re: The entire tradition of Western Occultism is just a giant troll
« Reply #15 on: August 13, 2018, 05:06:06 pm »
Agnosticism is intellectually lazy

As a Militant Agnostic it is my religious duty to be triggered by this to an extremist level.
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Re: The entire tradition of Western Occultism is just a giant troll
« Reply #16 on: August 13, 2018, 05:18:46 pm »
Agnosticism is intellectually lazy

As a Militant Agnostic it is my religious duty to be triggered by this to an extremist level.
A my boot grinds your cheek into the ground I'll proclaim agnosticism is the only truly intellectually honest stance.

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Re: The entire tradition of Western Occultism is just a giant troll
« Reply #17 on: August 13, 2018, 11:04:02 pm »
Electric campfire. Gluten free cigars.

Now that makes TOO much sense  :lol:
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Re: The entire tradition of Western Occultism is just a giant troll
« Reply #18 on: August 17, 2018, 04:24:51 pm »
Agnosticism is intellectually lazy

As a Militant Agnostic it is my religious duty to be triggered by this to an extremist level.
A my boot grinds your cheek into the ground I'll proclaim agnosticism is the only truly intellectually honest stance.

Agnosticism is the correct answer to the right question.
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Re: The entire tradition of Western Occultism is just a giant troll
« Reply #19 on: August 17, 2018, 06:26:29 pm »
Agnosticism is intellectually lazy

As a Militant Agnostic it is my religious duty to be triggered by this to an extremist level.
A my boot grinds your cheek into the ground I'll proclaim agnosticism is the only truly intellectually honest stance.

Agnosticism is the correct answer to the right question.

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Re: The entire tradition of Western Occultism is just a giant troll
« Reply #20 on: August 17, 2018, 09:45:04 pm »
I suppose that series of statements works if you own a ukulele and a fixed-gear bike.

....and sit around the campfire with a fat cigar with that ukulele  :lulz:

Electric campfire. Gluten free cigars.

Obviously.  We're not barbarians.

You may not be. I, on the other hand.
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Re: The entire tradition of Western Occultism is just a giant troll
« Reply #21 on: August 17, 2018, 11:26:59 pm »
I suppose that series of statements works if you own a ukulele and a fixed-gear bike.

....and sit around the campfire with a fat cigar with that ukulele  :lulz:

Electric campfire. Gluten free cigars.

Obviously.  We're not barbarians.

You may not be. I, on the other hand.

Yes, you barbaric Norwegians, with your savage free health care and your horrific unlimited free education mayhem.
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Re: The entire tradition of Western Occultism is just a giant troll
« Reply #22 on: August 24, 2018, 09:55:47 am »
Agnosticism is the undetermined non-answer to the question.

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Re: The entire tradition of Western Occultism is just a giant troll
« Reply #23 on: August 24, 2018, 10:07:00 am »
Undetermined is not a non-answer. It is the only answer.

Your ego may not like it, but the universe doesn't care and it's not here to answer your questions.
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Re: The entire tradition of Western Occultism is just a giant troll
« Reply #24 on: August 24, 2018, 12:19:21 pm »
Unless of course you demand knowing, in which case, hold on to your 'pieces'. Because the "un/indeterminate" can still be way more positive than your average cut.
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Re: The entire tradition of Western Occultism is just a giant troll
« Reply #25 on: August 24, 2018, 01:23:52 pm »
Here’s a knowable concept for you, Qliph: your tagging skills are subpar.
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Re: The entire tradition of Western Occultism is just a giant troll
« Reply #26 on: August 24, 2018, 01:36:25 pm »
 What time is it?
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Re: The entire tradition of Western Occultism is just a giant troll
« Reply #27 on: August 24, 2018, 01:39:22 pm »
Time to get ill
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Re: The entire tradition of Western Occultism is just a giant troll
« Reply #28 on: August 24, 2018, 01:50:26 pm »
 I'll mix up de medcin.
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Re: The entire tradition of Western Occultism is just a giant troll
« Reply #29 on: August 24, 2018, 02:15:15 pm »
Change my mind  :lulz:

Okay, I'll try.. but let me give you the context that I'm a materialist; I don't believe in woo.

The occult/spiritual texts with any value are usually interpreted way too literally. We modern people have the context of science as a powerful explanatory principle, and it's materially incompatible with concepts like heaven, soul, demons, et cetera. I think a lot of that stuff is worthless if you read it as a material explanation. Like, clearly there are no demons whispering in our ears, tempting us. But if you read demons as an internal force, a part of the self that must be struggled with, you are in a place where you can make personal sense of these writings.

Let's get a bit more concrete,
let's take one of the world's oldest occult maxims, found on the Emerald Tablet of Hermes: "As above, so below"  (the line continues, "With this knowledge alone you may work miracles.")


I could unpack my own understanding of this line, but it might be better if I just mentioned that "above" might not refer to "the heavens", so much as "the zoomed-out universe", (ie macrocosm) and "below" could refer to "the zoomed-in universe" - maybe we're talking about microorganisms, or fine material like molecules, or maybe we're talking about the microcosm, the "inner world".

In some traditions, it's seen this way - when a world is big, it looks like galaxies and nebulas and black holes. A smaller world looks like a sun with planets orbiting around it. A smaller world looks like a planet. A much smaller world looks like an individual person. And within that person maybe there are worlds too.

In that context, "as above, so below" gives us a key to appreciating the structural similarities between macro and micro, which in turn gives us a direct and personal connection to the Big Picture.


I could elaborate more, but probably best to stop there before I get carried away :p
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