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Decentralized Eristocracy

Started by Noble, February 28, 2019, 03:28:27 PM

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So are you advocating for a conspiracy-nerd utopia where "decentralized" order comes from spontaneously arising secret societies?

Geez, I wonder how far up the top is...
"I want to be the Borg but I want to do it alone."

Noble

Quote from: Frontside Back on February 28, 2019, 09:28:15 PM
So are you advocating for a conspiracy-nerd utopia where "decentralized" order comes from spontaneously arising secret societies?
...Maybe...

hooplala

To the OP:

No. The Sacred Chao represents everything. There is no remainder in the mathematics of infinity, nor is there any imbalance. Order and Disorder are both natural elements of chaos: neither is inherently good or bad.
"Soon all of us will have special names" — Professor Brian O'Blivion

"Now's not the time to get silly, so wear your big boots and jump on the garbage clowns." — Bob Dylan?

"Do I contradict myself?
Very well then I contradict myself,
(I am large, I contain multitudes.)"
— Walt Whitman

Noble

Quote from: Hoopla! on February 28, 2019, 09:36:58 PM
To the OP:

No. The Sacred Chao represents everything. There is no remainder in the mathematics of infinity, nor is there any imbalance. Order and Disorder are both natural elements of chaos: neither is inherently good or bad.
I didn't mean to imply that either element is bad in any way, though I feel some people might have opinions on that. I feel the balance between both elements should be perfect, though as discussed in an earlier post, this divide of The Sacred Chao/Chaos into two elements like that is very much an illusion of Greyface, though we can still continue those illusions if we so wished, if even just to explain the sacred chao itself.

Doktor Howl

Quote from: Noble on February 28, 2019, 08:50:30 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on February 28, 2019, 07:10:30 PM
Why on Earth would a self-identified Discordian be a nationalist? 
Because I want to be.
The rest of your post was something about socialism or something unrelated, which I don't really see as relevant.

Okay, you're a waste of time and can fuck off now.  You are here only for mockery from this point forward, as far as I am concerned.

Anyone else you can con into wasted time, knock yourself out.
Molon Lube

Doktor Howl

Quote from: Noble on February 28, 2019, 09:04:02 PM
It's not my fault you two had such strong emotional connection to the word "little guy".


There is now a 169% chance that this bell end is a proudboy, and a 99% chance he is an incel.

That is all.
Molon Lube

Doktor Howl

Quote from: nullified on February 28, 2019, 09:10:37 PM
Quote from: Noble on February 28, 2019, 09:04:02 PM
It's not my fault you two had such strong emotional connection to the word "little guy".
I'm a fan of decentralization as it stops one entity from grabbing all the power for itself and not allowing other movements to play in its shadow. Anyone could make a sect for themselves, if this lazy dumb selfish little guy you are thinking of wants to do that, then i doubt they'd get very far without thinking of their sect first.
It's the same in capitalism i'd say, anyone can start a company, few can make it a success.

And capitalist success comes on the broken, bloody spines of the worker and consumer. Just as any "little guy" in a position of power is traditionally an evil little shit, and please see 99% of cults, communes, any large family with a patriarch at the center, and so forth for proof.

History proves me right, and proves you to be either an optimistic fool or a sociopathic monster. I would like to assume the first, but you're a nationalist so it's all but certainly the second.

A nationalist is automatically both.
Molon Lube

Doktor Howl

Quote from: Noble on February 28, 2019, 09:18:43 PM
Quote from: nullified on February 28, 2019, 09:10:37 PM
And capitalist success comes on the broken, bloody spines of the worker and consumer. Just as any "little guy" in a position of power is traditionally an evil little shit, and please see 99% of cults, communes, any large family with a patriarch at the center, and so forth for proof.

History proves me right, and proves you to be either an optimistic fool or a sociopathic monster. I would like to assume the first, but you're a nationalist so it's all but certainly the second.
Speaking of biased...
In my eyes you're just shouting like an angry hippie, if you don't want to work then go die in a ditch I suppose. It's up to you.
The reason the guy at the top of the hierarchy in capitalistic societies is as cruel as they are is because capitalism favors those without remorse, if you want a society which favors something else, then go ahead and try to make that work out.
I mainly despise capitalism because it is global, defies local culture and power corrupts, since the more corrupt a society becomes, the less morals it has, the less morals, the more profits on products.
Manipulative charismatic cunts are gonna be manipulative charismatic cunts, what are you gonna do about it?

Trilby tipping intensifies.

This human-shaped garbage object has clearly never been in the same building as a boardroom, and is somehow an expert.
Molon Lube

Doktor Howl

Quote from: nullified on February 28, 2019, 08:13:34 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on February 28, 2019, 07:10:30 PM
Also, the little guy is as fucking stupid as the government, which is all little guys with accumulated resources.  They are just as mortal as you or I, they do things in just as fucked up a fashion.  The only difference between The Man[emoji769] and some pobucker from Kentucky is that The Man[emoji769] has been trained in how the apparatus works.  A dumbass that understands the machine is slightly more desirable than a dumbass that doesn't know where the clutch is, or in the case of our current untrained orange dumbass, doesn't know that the engine needs oil.  But, hey, everybody else's job looks EASY, right?  Anyone COULD govern, even on a local level, if only they were given a chance.  Right?  Right right right?

The little guy thinks tax cuts are for him, too, so he willingly defunds schools, roads, and libraries, thus ensuring that his children will be even dumber and poorer than he is.   

The Man[emoji769] knows that everyone is fucked up.  The little guy thinks everyone is fucked up except him.

The little guy thinks there are simple solutions to everything, despite not understanding the process.  The Man[emoji769] has at least an experiential knowledge of what friction is (in the Clausewitz sense).

The Man[emoji769] has an idea of what the velocity of currency means.  The little guy thinks that, against all evidence, small governmental units and NGOs work better than massed resources.

Most importantly, the little guy sees a tiny part of the elephant's toenail and tries to formulate a workable policy on how to spay elephants based on that tiny part.  The Man[emoji769] sees enough of the elephant to understand the need to drug the elephant ahead of time, because he is paid to look at the larger picture.

Thank you for this, because it's a great explanation of the problem with a loooooot of shit that I come across in leftist circles. Permission to share when applicable? Attribution every time is to be assumed.

You go right ahead.

Basically, people have these bizarre fucking narratives of what goes on at the decision-making level, constantly see conspiracies where there is really only stupidity.

And it's stupidity of the same quality as the observing dumbass himself, only with loads more horsepower.
Molon Lube

Noble

Quote from: Doktor Howl on February 28, 2019, 09:42:28 PM
Quote from: Noble on February 28, 2019, 08:50:30 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on February 28, 2019, 07:10:30 PM
Why on Earth would a self-identified Discordian be a nationalist? 
Because I want to be.
The rest of your post was something about socialism or something unrelated, which I don't really see as relevant.

Okay, you're a waste of time and can fuck off now.  You are here only for mockery from this point forward, as far as I am concerned.

Anyone else you can con into wasted time, knock yourself out.

Nah the only person I mock is you, since you've been spouting shit over every single one of my messages thusfar.

Quote from: Doktor Howl on February 28, 2019, 09:44:03 PM
There is now a 169% chance that this bell end is a proudboy, and a 99% chance he is an incel.
Nice buzzwords, please continue your shouting in your head instead of in my thread, kindly fuck off.

Quote from: Doktor Howl on February 28, 2019, 09:44:45 PM
A nationalist is automatically both.
nice bias, please fuck off and stop spamming.

Doktor Howl

Quote from: Noble on February 28, 2019, 09:49:05 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on February 28, 2019, 09:42:28 PM
Quote from: Noble on February 28, 2019, 08:50:30 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on February 28, 2019, 07:10:30 PM
Why on Earth would a self-identified Discordian be a nationalist? 
Because I want to be.
The rest of your post was something about socialism or something unrelated, which I don't really see as relevant.

Okay, you're a waste of time and can fuck off now.  You are here only for mockery from this point forward, as far as I am concerned.

Anyone else you can con into wasted time, knock yourself out.

Nah the only person I mock is you, since you've been spouting shit over every single one of my messages thusfar.

Quote from: Doktor Howl on February 28, 2019, 09:44:03 PM
There is now a 169% chance that this bell end is a proudboy, and a 99% chance he is an incel.
Nice buzzwords, please continue your shouting in your head instead of in my thread, kindly fuck off.

Quote from: Doktor Howl on February 28, 2019, 09:44:45 PM
A nationalist is automatically both.
nice bias, please fuck off and stop spamming.

Kiss my ass until it blisters, knob end.  :lulz:


You haven't even see "spouting shit", but you're gonna.
Molon Lube

Frontside Back

Quote from: Noble on February 28, 2019, 09:31:10 PM
Quote from: Frontside Back on February 28, 2019, 09:28:15 PM
So are you advocating for a conspiracy-nerd utopia where "decentralized" order comes from spontaneously arising secret societies?
...Maybe...
Why?
"I want to be the Borg but I want to do it alone."

Doktor Howl

Quote from: Frontside Back on February 28, 2019, 10:02:51 PM
Quote from: Noble on February 28, 2019, 09:31:10 PM
Quote from: Frontside Back on February 28, 2019, 09:28:15 PM
So are you advocating for a conspiracy-nerd utopia where "decentralized" order comes from spontaneously arising secret societies?
...Maybe...
Why?

Because he is a utopian dumbfuck and cannot help himself.
Molon Lube

Faust

Reporting roger for spamming are we.

I consider myself a nationalist, however that means Irish Nationalist: IE my nationalism is limited to wanting a united so Instead of two countries on this miserable rhumatic rock, there is one.
Sleepless nights at the chateau

Noble

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Quote from: Frontside Back on February 28, 2019, 10:02:51 PM
Quote from: Noble on February 28, 2019, 09:31:10 PM
Quote from: Frontside Back on February 28, 2019, 09:28:15 PM
So are you advocating for a conspiracy-nerd utopia where "decentralized" order comes from spontaneously arising secret societies?
...Maybe...
Why?
Because I'm bored with politics, I think a strange political system or even a strange turn of events in what constitutes power could spice it up a bit. It's boring just waiting with these blue-dressed seat warmers until some nuclear winter breaks out  just because pakistan doesn't like india.

Quote from: Faust on February 28, 2019, 10:10:28 PM
Reporting roger for spamming are we.

I consider myself a nationalist, however that means Irish Nationalist: IE my nationalism is limited to wanting a united so Instead of two countries on this miserable rhumatic rock, there is one.
Same here, I love the history of my country, fighting off foreign invaders like the spanish and the french. I'm a Dutchman and want to reunite with Flanders because Belgium is an artificial country and stronger together and all that.
Reporting this guy just because he shits up everything.