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[Doktor Howl]

Alternatively we could stop scrambling for a "safe" position that's only "safe" compared to a catastrophic alternative but would itself be described as the catastrophic alternative 40 years ago, over and over again, forever chasing our tails and pretending we are accomplishing something but actually just delaying the inevitable. Harm reduction is fine and all but when that's your only plan, and the only plan you'll even entertain, it's sort of useless.

OH, AND ANOTHER THING:

Even if we DID vote for Social Program Jesus or whomever next time, it WON'T MATTER.  Because in the spring of 2024, someone will make an unsubstantiated claim about how Social Program Jesus raped someone in 1978 and we will dump them like hot rocks on the accusation alone, leaving Don Jr to be the next president.

Because we are fucking morons and we should just launch our entire nuclear inventory right now.  Like right fucking now.

... you know if we set ALL of them off simultaneously we MIGHT just achieve first, and last, contact. That shit would probably be radio-visible right through the galactic core and beyond... EPIC!!

NOTE TO SELF:  SET BOOBY TRAPS FOR ASSHOLE ALIEN ARCHEOLOGISTS.

I'm pretty sure that was the plot in an episode of lexx.

Shame on you if you don't remember lexx.

I remember it, I just never watched it.

[Junkenstein]

You'd like it. Terribly paced and far too much filler at times but solid Sci fi.

[Junkenstein]

I am giving up on socialism and the left in general.

They are a pack of gullible losers.  It's embarrassing.  I have to tell people I'm a reform monarchist so they don't point and laugh.

In addition, having looked at FB, they are also just populists, not unlike Trump voters.  It was never about removing the beast, it was about BeRNiE.

I shall henceforth restrict my activities towards human extinction.  The  revolution will have to go ahead without me.

What amuses me is the parallels in treatment between sanders and corbyn. Both elevated to sainthood in a few circles and largely derided by most for moderate socialist ideas. Neither had the balls to propose serious game changers like maximum wage.

Outcome here? Corbyn destroyed by the most blatantly racist party of the times because he totally hates Jews.

The fun you've got ahead seems to be between a possible rapist and a probable rapist. That's a new coming low for your TV debates.

[Doktor Howl]

What amuses me is the parallels in treatment between sanders and corbyn. Both elevated to sainthood in a few circles and largely derided by most for moderate socialist ideas. Neither had the balls to propose serious game changers like maximum wage.

Outcome here? Corbyn destroyed by the most blatantly racist party of the times because he totally hates Jews.

The fun you've got ahead seems to be between a possible rapist and a probable rapist. That's a new coming low for your TV debates.

What gets me is the left's capacity for self destruction

[altered]

I think that in my vodka fueled state I am realizing I may have moderated my words too much.

Sanders was a compromise candidate for the teeny tiny (but growing) far left of the USA. Consider: I have grown to consider myself a part of the far left.

The far left is full of morons who haven't thought through "if it's gotten this bad in four years, how bad could it be with four more years and the paving of the way?"

The result is that the far left, or at least that segment of it that doesn't consider the fucking BAD consequences, is functionally made up of sociopathic eugenicists who think that the most vulnerable people dying off is worth proving a fucking point.

For all that I respect you and appreciate you, Vex, I do not respect this change and think you need to remove your head from your ass.

Because yeah, sure, focusing local works in relatively left leaning areas. What if you live somewhere full of old xenophobic white guys? The rural South, or the rust belt, or anywhere like that. You'll never get a better shot. You need to stop things from collapsing long enough to make it out alive.

There is a young boy in Texas whose family I lived with for a couple months. They already get rocks through windows and screaming racist bastards and death threats. What about them? What are they supposed to do when blind eyes are turned and no one gives a shit?

Consider the people who your fucking utopian idealistic fantasy universe leaves to die miserable and hated in the fucking boonies, and reconsider your accelerationist bullshit. I implore you.

[Pergamos]

isn't human extinction just the Big Acceleration tho

Kinda the opposite.  Accelerationism is making things worse so that they can get better faster.  To achieve human extinction we need to make things better, so more people will breed and we will completely use up all the resources and make the planet uninhabitable.

[Black Death]

I think that in my vodka fueled state I am realizing I may have moderated my words too much.

Sanders was a compromise candidate for the teeny tiny (but growing) far left of the USA. Consider: I have grown to consider myself a part of the far left.

The far left is full of morons who haven't thought through "if it's gotten this bad in four years, how bad could it be with four more years and the paving of the way?"

The result is that the far left, or at least that segment of it that doesn't consider the fucking BAD consequences, is functionally made up of sociopathic eugenicists who think that the most vulnerable people dying off is worth proving a fucking point.

For all that I respect you and appreciate you, Vex, I do not respect this change and think you need to remove your head from your ass.

Because yeah, sure, focusing local works in relatively left leaning areas. What if you live somewhere full of old xenophobic white guys? The rural South, or the rust belt, or anywhere like that. You'll never get a better shot. You need to stop things from collapsing long enough to make it out alive.

There is a young boy in Texas whose family I lived with for a couple months. They already get rocks through windows and screaming racist bastards and death threats. What about them? What are they supposed to do when blind eyes are turned and no one gives a shit?

Consider the people who your fucking utopian idealistic fantasy universe leaves to die miserable and hated in the fucking boonies, and reconsider your accelerationist bullshit. I implore you.

Silly rabbit! The dems job isn't to win elections, it is to maintain the two party monopoly on powah.

The dems rightly fear and can not afford to let Sanders hijack their party the way that Trump hijacked the GOP because if he did the system could no longer be controlled by the MIC/neocons/corporate elite/deep state.

Trump has been sufficiently coopted by the powahs that matter. Everybody is now A OK with him serving termy two.

[Faust]

Trump has been sufficiently coopted by the powahs that matter. Everybody is now A OK with him serving termy two.

He has provided them with a spectacle circus that distracts from the insidious shit they are pushing. He's a circus clown juggling while they pick your pockets

[The Wizard Joseph]

 

[Black Death]

that's what I said. Are you hard of hearing?

[The Wizard Joseph]

that's what I said. Are you hard of hearing?

Actually I'm blind and interact with the forum through psychometry and a well trained monkey typist that used to hack for Shakespeare. You however are indisputably lame, not to harp on your disability. I try not to be ableist. It's difficult sometimes.

[Doktor Howl]

I think that in my vodka fueled state I am realizing I may have moderated my words too much.

Sanders was a compromise candidate for the teeny tiny (but growing) far left of the USA. Consider: I have grown to consider myself a part of the far left.

The far left is full of morons who haven't thought through "if it's gotten this bad in four years, how bad could it be with four more years and the paving of the way?"

The result is that the far left, or at least that segment of it that doesn't consider the fucking BAD consequences, is functionally made up of sociopathic eugenicists who think that the most vulnerable people dying off is worth proving a fucking point.

For all that I respect you and appreciate you, Vex, I do not respect this change and think you need to remove your head from your ass.

Because yeah, sure, focusing local works in relatively left leaning areas. What if you live somewhere full of old xenophobic white guys? The rural South, or the rust belt, or anywhere like that. You'll never get a better shot. You need to stop things from collapsing long enough to make it out alive.

There is a young boy in Texas whose family I lived with for a couple months. They already get rocks through windows and screaming racist bastards and death threats. What about them? What are they supposed to do when blind eyes are turned and no one gives a shit?

Consider the people who your fucking utopian idealistic fantasy universe leaves to die miserable and hated in the fucking boonies, and reconsider your accelerationist bullshit. I implore you.

Silly rabbit! The dems job isn't to win elections, it is to maintain the two party monopoly on powah.

The dems rightly fear and can not afford to let Sanders hijack their party the way that Trump hijacked the GOP because if he did the system could no longer be controlled by the MIC/neocons/corporate elite/deep state.

Trump has been sufficiently coopted by the powahs that matter. Everybody is now A OK with him serving termy two.

Oh, hey.

Either we have a full out berner or we're about to see honk memes.

[Cramulus]

Hey Black Death, do I know you as MM?

if that makes no sense, please disregard

[Suu]

Oh, hey.

Either we have a full out berner or we're about to see honk memes.

Total Berner, and bad at it. He just posted Bernie's drop out article from USA Today in the Joe Biden thread, and then edited the text to change the names to Biden and Clinton.

He's EDGY.

[Doktor Howl]

Accelerationism is making things worse so that they can get better faster. 

This has never worked.