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Started by Doktor Howl, March 01, 2019, 08:53:02 PM

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#540
May 22, 2020, 05:36:55 PM
Quote from: Fujikoma on May 22, 2020, 06:53:39 AM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on May 19, 2020, 07:59:48 PM
Quote from: Fujikoma on May 18, 2020, 03:25:12 AM
I believe Tara, maybe she lied every other day of her life but I don't think she is now.

Well, if you need an excuse to sit out the election because you low-key want Trump to win to punish America for not nominating your personal favorite, believing a serial liar is as good a reason as any.

Fuck no dude I am totally voting Biden, but am nonetheless disgusted by my choice. Welcome to politics I guess.

Welcome to 40 out of 45 presidents.
Molon Lube

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#541
May 22, 2020, 08:54:46 PM
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/biden-says-black-voters-who-arent-already-supporting-him-aint-black/2020/05/22/4466d978-9c39-11ea-ad09-8da7ec214672_story.html

How do I convince people this dude is the right choice! I'm begging people for fucking answers here. I know he's the best we've got but how the FUCK do I tell anyone else that? He's shitting all over it!
"I am that worst of all type of criminal...I cannot bring myself to do what you tell me, because you told me."

There's over 100 of us in this meat-suit. You'd think it runs like a ship, but it's more like a hundred and ten angry ghosts having an old-school QuakeWorld tournament, three people desperately trying to make sure the gamers don't go hungry or soil themselves, and the Facilities manager weeping in the corner as the garbage piles high.

The Wizard Joseph

#542
May 22, 2020, 10:07:06 PM
I got nothing.
:enough:
You can't get out backward.  You have to go forward to go back.. better press on! - Willie Wonka, PBUH

Life can be seen as a game with no reset button, no extra lives, and if the power goes out there is no restarting.  If that's all you see life as you are not long for this world, and never will get it.

"Ayn Rand never swung a hammer in her life and had serious dominance issues" - The Fountainhead

"World domination is such an ugly phrase. I prefer to call it world optimisation."
- Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality :lulz:

"You program the controller to do the thing, only it doesn't do the thing.  It does something else entirely, or nothing at all.  It's like voting."
- Billy, Aug 21st, 2019

"It's not even chaos anymore. It's BANAL."
- Doktor Hamish Howl

Doktor Howl

#543
May 22, 2020, 10:46:28 PM
This is the future I was promised.   :lulz:
Molon Lube

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#544
May 22, 2020, 11:03:50 PM
It's like we saw Brexit and the un-ending dogfucking in the U.K. and, true to form, said "We can do it bigger, better, and not even have to do it as part of a new direction for the country!"

I really want to tell people to vote Biden, I do. But I fucking can't. He's repeatedly insisting Republicans are going to be in his cabinet, saying any black folks who dare fucking question him aren't really black, tells anyone who has the slightest doubt just to not vote for him. What is left? What possible thing can I point at in his favor?

Electability is something he's scraping off of his shoe, he's senile, he's going to keep the right in fucking power any goddamn way. His only possible saving grace is not literally being Trump, and if he does the stupid fucking bipartisan cabinet thing he wants to do it will be a distinction without meaning.

I've personally given up. The fucker cannot win save by a miracle. Nothing will fucking change even in a "press pause on decline" way.
"I am that worst of all type of criminal...I cannot bring myself to do what you tell me, because you told me."

There's over 100 of us in this meat-suit. You'd think it runs like a ship, but it's more like a hundred and ten angry ghosts having an old-school QuakeWorld tournament, three people desperately trying to make sure the gamers don't go hungry or soil themselves, and the Facilities manager weeping in the corner as the garbage piles high.

Faust

#545
May 23, 2020, 02:03:26 AM
A vote for biden is a vote against another Brett Kavanagh on the supreme court.
Its a vote against leaving things like the paris accord
Its a vote against pointless and damaging trade wars.
It is a vote against the open endorsement of Neo Nazis
It is a vote against the open endorsement of hate crimes against members of the lgbt community, let alone the erosion of their rights.
It is a vote against the open endorsement of dictatorships across the world and the veneration of the worst kind of people.
It is a vote against trump, the only one available.
Sleepless nights at the chateau

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#546
May 23, 2020, 02:07:29 AM
This is all stuff it's against. The response I see to this sort of stuff is that none of it is an endorsement of Biden, it's an admission that he has nothing going for him independent of the shitty situation we are in.

What can I say that he actually has going for him? What is he for? What are the values he represents?

What I had before was literally just "electability." But given he's repeatedly burning his few advantages there, I have nothing.
"I am that worst of all type of criminal...I cannot bring myself to do what you tell me, because you told me."

There's over 100 of us in this meat-suit. You'd think it runs like a ship, but it's more like a hundred and ten angry ghosts having an old-school QuakeWorld tournament, three people desperately trying to make sure the gamers don't go hungry or soil themselves, and the Facilities manager weeping in the corner as the garbage piles high.

Faust

#547
May 23, 2020, 02:15:04 AM Last Edit: May 23, 2020, 02:18:40 AM by Faust
Nope youre not going to get that this election. He doesnt stand for anything, and as a caretaker bland nothing that is preferable to the alternative.
Because the choice is someone who actively stands for awful things, and one who doesnt stand for those.
A vote for trump or an abstination is a vote to continue the degredation.

But there isnt a vote option for more than that.
Sleepless nights at the chateau

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#548
May 23, 2020, 02:18:53 AM
That's the problem then. The people I have to deal with would rather me die than have a vote that means nothing outside of the context of the present administration. Yeah, they're awful fucking people, but you don't need to convince the DECENT people.

I can't sway anyone like this.
"I am that worst of all type of criminal...I cannot bring myself to do what you tell me, because you told me."

There's over 100 of us in this meat-suit. You'd think it runs like a ship, but it's more like a hundred and ten angry ghosts having an old-school QuakeWorld tournament, three people desperately trying to make sure the gamers don't go hungry or soil themselves, and the Facilities manager weeping in the corner as the garbage piles high.

minuspace

#549
May 23, 2020, 02:22:51 AM
Of course we"d like to think of presidents as absolute and transcendent individuals bestowed with executive powers beyond our common chains of causal determinism. But that is not the case, not for anyone. So they exist relative to one another and can only be judged as such. The real value he represents IS being better than Trump. End of story. Nothing new will play until the stage is cleared.

Faust

#550
May 23, 2020, 02:28:01 AM
Quote from: altered on May 23, 2020, 02:18:53 AM
That's the problem then. The people I have to deal with would rather me die than have a vote that means nothing outside of the context of the present administration. Yeah, they're awful fucking people, but you don't need to convince the DECENT people.

I can't sway anyone like this.

Abstination is a vote for trump.
But regardless of this election what you could really rally people behind is trying to get rid of that god awful system and go for a proportional representation with genuine third parties out there.
If you want to fix the system it starts with damage limitation which means any genuine vote to imrpove things starts with a vote for Biden but it cant end there.
Sleepless nights at the chateau

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#551
May 23, 2020, 02:32:26 AM
I think the problem might be that accelerationism is more or less becoming the default.

I've made that argument. I've made it here, in fact. The problem is they say (and I don't disagree though I think they have little to base it on) that putting the brakes on will make people say we didn't need all that nonsense anyway and we can do without it... Then the brakes fail and we are back in free fall with nothing (that they care about: mutual aid groups can do a shit ton for disadvantaged people like me when everything isn't on fire) having been done.

They want to keep momentum for change while they have it. Which makes sense, if you ignore that there are bodies tied to the rails of their fucked up train ride.
"I am that worst of all type of criminal...I cannot bring myself to do what you tell me, because you told me."

There's over 100 of us in this meat-suit. You'd think it runs like a ship, but it's more like a hundred and ten angry ghosts having an old-school QuakeWorld tournament, three people desperately trying to make sure the gamers don't go hungry or soil themselves, and the Facilities manager weeping in the corner as the garbage piles high.

minuspace

#552
May 23, 2020, 02:53:10 AM
Quote from: Faust on May 23, 2020, 02:28:01 AM

Abstination is a vote for trump.


I heard someone put Oxytrol in Trump's viagra when he was in Moscow, turned the PP tapes into a real shit show...
(He also likes his burgers raw)


Then...

Distribute LOTS of free condoms with some "Init for Biden" slogan.

Fujikoma

#553
May 23, 2020, 03:21:16 AM
I'm just waiting for the day Trump drinks a shot of bleach. That will be a good day. He'll be cured of everything ever for good.

Jesus, why couldn't we have someone like Buttiegeg, Warren, even freaking Sanders (who I kind of like but am not sure is electable), instead we get this assclown talking about threatening Corn Pop with chains and all this other shit, and somehow this is what everyone wants? Jesus fucking Christ, why can't we get another Obama?

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#554
May 23, 2020, 03:25:40 AM
If you think Buttigieg would be better than Biden, for all Biden sucks, you're a fucking idiot.
"I am that worst of all type of criminal...I cannot bring myself to do what you tell me, because you told me."

There's over 100 of us in this meat-suit. You'd think it runs like a ship, but it's more like a hundred and ten angry ghosts having an old-school QuakeWorld tournament, three people desperately trying to make sure the gamers don't go hungry or soil themselves, and the Facilities manager weeping in the corner as the garbage piles high.
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