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Dear Doktor:
« on: June 20, 2019, 04:34:11 am »
How does one cure the Nazi?
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Re: Dear Doktor:
« Reply #1 on: June 20, 2019, 05:37:11 am »
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Re: Dear Doktor:
« Reply #2 on: June 20, 2019, 05:50:21 am »
I cannot speak for the Doktor, but I can speak from my own personal experiences. Your mileage may vary, local ordinances and cultural mores could open up possibilities I was not allowed to try.

In my experience, curing the Nazi is simply not done. It is a terminal condition. It may go into remission, even for the rest of the life of the afflicted, but it never really goes away. The way to force remission is open demonstration of what happens to Nazis.

(Also, hey! Really good to see you’re around. Hope things have been good for you.)
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Re: Dear Doktor:
« Reply #3 on: June 20, 2019, 04:20:54 pm »
I know a guy who lives in the back country of PA. When he was a teen, his friends fell in with some people that were part of the KKK, and he tagged along. As a teen, he didn't know the larger context. As he grew up, he woke up, got disgusted, and ragequit that whole social branch. Today, (10+ years later) I can certify that he's fine.

I think that if the condition is based on genuine ignorance, it can be cured.
If the condition is based on choices one has made consciously, it is there at a deep level and will take an enormous labor to free onself.

In both cases, the person has to want to free themselves - you cannot impose a change like that on someone else. The change has to originate from within them, from a genuine desire, or the waves and winds will always pull them off course.




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Re: Dear Doktor:
« Reply #4 on: June 20, 2019, 05:57:26 pm »
Honest answer to an honest question?

Watch Contrapoints.

Failing that, there are tons of materials available on how UK deradicalisation programs work.  And cult deprogrammers too.

You have to get inside of the worldview and blow it up. Not through arguments, per se, as arguing only entrenches the worldview. But show them that their worldview a) doesn't work b) hurts those they care about and c) actively goes against their own values (Imams are brilliant at point C. Nothing gets Islamic terrorists recanting their beliefs faster than being guilt-tripped by an Imam)
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Re: Dear Doktor:
« Reply #5 on: June 21, 2019, 12:51:15 am »
Quote from: Suu on June 20, 2019, 04:34:11 am
How does one cure the Nazi?

A big fat rock
Or quarters in a sock
That's how we cure the Nazis.

It may seem cruel
But the Nazi's a tool
So we gotta cure the Nazis.

Blood isn't pretty
But neither is an alt-right city
So get out there and cure the Nazis.
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Re: Dear Doktor:
« Reply #6 on: June 21, 2019, 01:21:24 am »
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 21, 2019, 12:51:15 am
Quote from: Suu on June 20, 2019, 04:34:11 am
How does one cure the Nazi?

A big fat rock
Or quarters in a sock
That's how we cure the Nazis.

It may seem cruel
But the Nazi's a tool
So we gotta cure the Nazis.

Blood isn't pretty
But neither is an alt-right city
So get out there and cure the Nazis.
I can't be the only one reading this to the tune of "Mairzy Doats", right?
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Re: Dear Doktor:
« Reply #7 on: June 21, 2019, 02:28:26 am »
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 21, 2019, 12:51:15 am
Quote from: Suu on June 20, 2019, 04:34:11 am
How does one cure the Nazi?

A big fat rock
Or quarters in a sock
That's how we cure the Nazis.

It may seem cruel
But the Nazi's a tool
So we gotta cure the Nazis.

Blood isn't pretty
But neither is an alt-right city
So get out there and cure the Nazis.

THIS IS ART.
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Re: Dear Doktor:
« Reply #8 on: June 21, 2019, 03:09:25 am »
Quote from: Suu on June 21, 2019, 02:28:26 am
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 21, 2019, 12:51:15 am
Quote from: Suu on June 20, 2019, 04:34:11 am
How does one cure the Nazi?

A big fat rock
Or quarters in a sock
That's how we cure the Nazis.

It may seem cruel
But the Nazi's a tool
So we gotta cure the Nazis.

Blood isn't pretty
But neither is an alt-right city
So get out there and cure the Nazis.

THIS IS ART.

I was havin' a moment.
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Re: Dear Doktor:
« Reply #9 on: June 21, 2019, 05:19:01 am »
Quote from: Al Qədic on June 21, 2019, 01:21:24 am
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 21, 2019, 12:51:15 am
Quote from: Suu on June 20, 2019, 04:34:11 am
How does one cure the Nazi?

A big fat rock
Or quarters in a sock
That's how we cure the Nazis.

It may seem cruel
But the Nazi's a tool
So we gotta cure the Nazis.

Blood isn't pretty
But neither is an alt-right city
So get out there and cure the Nazis.
I can't be the only one reading this to the tune of "Mairzy Doats", right?

1: No, not the only one.

2: Thank you for identifying the tune, that would have bothered me for weeks.
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“I am that worst of all type of criminal...I cannot bring myself to do what you tell me, because you told me.”

There's over 100 of us in this meat-suit. You'd think it runs like a ship, but it's more like a hundred and ten angry ghosts having an old-school QuakeWorld tournament, three people desperately trying to make sure the gamers don't go hungry or soil themselves, and the Facilities manager weeping in the corner as the garbage piles high.

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Re: Dear Doktor:
« Reply #10 on: June 21, 2019, 07:50:12 pm »
Quote from: Al Qədic on June 21, 2019, 01:21:24 am
Quote from: Doktor Howl on June 21, 2019, 12:51:15 am
Quote from: Suu on June 20, 2019, 04:34:11 am
How does one cure the Nazi?

A big fat rock
Or quarters in a sock
That's how we cure the Nazis.

It may seem cruel
But the Nazi's a tool
So we gotta cure the Nazis.

Blood isn't pretty
But neither is an alt-right city
So get out there and cure the Nazis.
I can't be the only one reading this to the tune of "Mairzy Doats", right?

I think my brain was trying to do something with "That's Amore", but couldn't quite make it work.
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