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Re: The Functionality of the Black Iron Prison
« Reply #120 on: January 21, 2020, 07:19:56 am »

An (apparently) major element of his world-view was questioned, which in turn cast doubt on his self-image as a "logical person who sticks to the rules of critical thinking".  It's not surprising that he became upset.


Sort of like the "I am the only conscious being in a world of sheep" trap.

This, yes. I’d only modify it to add that there seems to be a common mistake being made: the idea that being intelligent makes it impossible for you to be conned.

Presumably there’s some “if you are sufficiently skeptical” or whatever qualifier there, but it’s irrelevant. I’ve never met anyone who was immune to being misled. Especially not when they’re TRYING to be immune to being misled.

All intelligence does is give you a couple tools to recognize badly played cons as they happen, and a billion tools for cognitive dissonance to engrave bad signal into your brain forever.
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Re: The Functionality of the Black Iron Prison
« Reply #121 on: January 21, 2020, 01:34:30 pm »
In retrospect, this thread was doomed from the very first line.

Imagine time as a solid object.

Those are certainly all words, but as a both a metaphor and a starting point, the amount of assumptions and presumptions needed are insurmountable.

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Re: The Functionality of the Black Iron Prison
« Reply #122 on: January 21, 2020, 03:04:00 pm »

This, yes. I’d only modify it to add that there seems to be a common mistake being made: the idea that being intelligent makes it impossible for you to be conned.


Also, "you may be smart, but you're not the only smart person in the room".
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Re: The Functionality of the Black Iron Prison
« Reply #123 on: January 21, 2020, 03:46:17 pm »
In retrospect, this thread was doomed from the very first line.

Imagine time as a solid object.

Those are certainly all words, but as a both a metaphor and a starting point, the amount of assumptions and presumptions needed are insurmountable.

Imagine a horse as an antelope. In this analogy, the "antelope's" antlers are evidence that horses are, in fact, antelope.
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Re: The Functionality of the Black Iron Prison
« Reply #124 on: January 21, 2020, 04:24:03 pm »
In retrospect, this thread was doomed from the very first line.

Imagine time as a solid object.

Those are certainly all words, but as a both a metaphor and a starting point, the amount of assumptions and presumptions needed are insurmountable.

Imagine a horse as an antelope. In this analogy, the "antelope's" antlers are evidence that horses are, in fact, antelope.
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Re: The Functionality of the Black Iron Prison
« Reply #125 on: January 21, 2020, 08:04:22 pm »
In retrospect, this thread was doomed from the very first line.

Imagine time as a solid object.

Those are certainly all words, but as a both a metaphor and a starting point, the amount of assumptions and presumptions needed are insurmountable.


this must be why they call it the block model.

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Re: The Functionality of the Black Iron Prison
« Reply #126 on: January 21, 2020, 11:49:18 pm »
so what I'm getting is that the function of the black iron prison is to convince you that only a miracle can set you free
just this

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Re: The Functionality of the Black Iron Prison
« Reply #127 on: January 22, 2020, 12:02:06 am »
so what I'm getting is that the function of the black iron prison is to convince you that only a miracle can set you free

And that is ALSO a lie.
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Re: The Functionality of the Black Iron Prison
« Reply #128 on: January 22, 2020, 01:07:52 am »
I should have known this thread would devolve into an ignorant circle-jerk, completely devoid of any semblance of genuine conversation stemming from what at least a few of you recognized as a good-enough jumping-point for discussion.

And this has nothing to do with whether I was "right" or "wrong".

You're all just a bunch of stupid, self-absorbed ignorangt jackasses who don't deserve what you've been gifted with; the mantle of the closest thing to "official" Discordianism that exists (it doesn't).

I wish I had something more clever to say. As much as I disappoint myself, you lot (with a few exceptions) disappoint me ever more.

There are thinking men among you, but not many.

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Re: The Functionality of the Black Iron Prison
« Reply #129 on: January 22, 2020, 01:25:07 am »
I should have known this thread would devolve into an ignorant circle-jerk, completely devoid of any semblance of genuine conversation stemming from what at least a few of you recognized as a good-enough jumping-point for discussion.

And this has nothing to do with whether I was "right" or "wrong".

You're all just a bunch of stupid, self-absorbed ignorangt jackasses who don't deserve what you've been gifted with; the mantle of the closest thing to "official" Discordianism that exists (it doesn't).

I wish I had something more clever to say. As much as I disappoint myself, you lot (with a few exceptions) disappoint me ever more.

There are thinking men among you, but not many.

Moar cartoons plez

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That was cold as fuck.

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Re: The Functionality of the Black Iron Prison
« Reply #130 on: January 22, 2020, 03:43:30 am »
I should have known this thread would devolve into an ignorant circle-jerk, completely devoid of any semblance of genuine conversation stemming from what at least a few of you recognized as a good-enough jumping-point for discussion.

And this has nothing to do with whether I was "right" or "wrong".

You're all just a bunch of stupid, self-absorbed ignorangt jackasses who don't deserve what you've been gifted with; the mantle of the closest thing to "official" Discordianism that exists (it doesn't).

I wish I had something more clever to say. As much as I disappoint myself, you lot (with a few exceptions) disappoint me ever more.

There are thinking men among you, but not many.

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Re: The Functionality of the Black Iron Prison
« Reply #131 on: January 22, 2020, 03:55:45 am »
It's such an awesome thing that this thread now has literally nothing to do with itself, for almost no reason.

You guys are so good at your jobs, I wonder if you even remember what your jobs are.

One person comes along and says, "This is bullshit because hurrdadurddhurr" and everything collapses. You give undue power to regulars. It's like points for showing up.

And I wonder why I got bored here.

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Re: The Functionality of the Black Iron Prison
« Reply #132 on: January 22, 2020, 04:34:05 am »
it's like this thread was part of some sort of explosion and there was a strand that the posts were supposed to follow, but no matter what, every time a post tried to be "in the box" it would just get derailed again. . .
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Re: The Functionality of the Black Iron Prison
« Reply #133 on: January 22, 2020, 10:31:26 am »
it's like this thread was part of some sort of explosion and there was a strand that the posts were supposed to follow, but no matter what, every time a post tried to be "in the box" it would just get derailed again. . .

this is discordia - there are no rails
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Re: The Functionality of the Black Iron Prison
« Reply #134 on: January 22, 2020, 10:47:43 am »
it's like this thread was part of some sort of explosion and there was a strand that the posts were supposed to follow, but no matter what, every time a post tried to be "in the box" it would just get derailed again. . .

this is discordia - there are no rails

That's just because Eris hoggs all of the cocaine.
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