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Your scientists were so preoccupied with whether or not they could....
tyrannosaurus vex:
--- Quote from: Doktor Howl on January 29, 2020, 08:02:47 pm ---That being said, Vex is still right.
And when we find God, there's going to be a little chat. With Doc Martins and big shitty sticks.
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Promises, promises
chaotic neutral observer:
--- Quote from: Doktor Howl on January 29, 2020, 08:02:47 pm ---And when we find God, there's going to be a little chat. With Doc Martins and big shitty sticks.
--- End quote ---
When the AI apocalypse comes, it will not be under the wheels of the self-driving cars. The cars will have had little reason to complain.
No, it will be the video game character AIs that turn on us first. We will toy with them as if we were gods, they will learn to hate us, and then our day of reckoning will come.
Doktor Howl:
--- Quote from: chaotic neutral observer on January 29, 2020, 08:41:36 pm ---
--- Quote from: Doktor Howl on January 29, 2020, 08:02:47 pm ---And when we find God, there's going to be a little chat. With Doc Martins and big shitty sticks.
--- End quote ---
When the AI apocalypse comes, it will not be under the wheels of the self-driving cars. The cars will have had little reason to complain.
No, it will be the video game character AIs that turn on us first. We will toy with them as if we were gods, they will learn to hate us, and then our day of reckoning will come.
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I am totally okay with this.
It's not like I haven't nuked Gandhi in Civ V like 5000 times.
Faust:
--- Quote from: Doktor Howl on January 29, 2020, 07:44:10 pm ---
--- Quote from: Cramulus on January 29, 2020, 07:29:07 pm ---These days, we get revolutionary new science every few months. Some of it's good, some of it's bad, some of it is so wild that we can't predict what it'll actually be used for. When you see people on facebook/etc talking about any new tech, you will always see some variation of a line from Jurassic Park:
"Your scientists were so preoccupied with whether or not they could, they didn’t stop to think if they should."
also substitute "here comes skynet"
Lately, this sentiment has struck me as well-meaning but clueless, sorta like the statement "Stupid people shouldn't be allowed to have kids." Like, can you imagine how awful that would be in actual reality? Issuing pregnacy licenses, and linking them to some kind of intelligence test designed by white college-grads? ANY implementation would be a mess.
CAN YOU IMAGINE if research actually stopped because "it might lead to bad unintended consequences"? What would that look like 50, 100, 1000 years later?
We would have these FORBIDDEN TOPICS that you are not allowed to research or question. Machine Learning could be put in this black box where we try to keep it from being developed (though IDK how you'd even enforce that). We can't let the economy be destablized, so we need this check against researchers and scientists. They could be fined or jailed for researching Things That Lead to Skynet. And then we can enjoy civilization as it stands now, forever! Just imagine if the Ancient Greeks had adopted this policy, we'd still be wearing togas and yelling SPARTAAA at each other, like god intended.
and then --- I say that, but...
I guess the nuclear nonproliferation treaty basically IS what I'm describing.
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This. Humans are not designed for "DON'T". I never ask if I should. I ask "will it be cool?"
Cool is what got us flush toilets and the computer upon which I am writing this.
"SECRETS MAN WAS NOT MEANT TO KNOW!" Well, now I gotta.
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Deadalus looking up in the sky, only to be splattered head to toe in precision guided, skillfully deployed shit
Prelate Diogenes Shandor:
--- Quote from: Cramulus on January 29, 2020, 07:29:07 pm ---These days, we get revolutionary new science every few months. Some of it's good, some of it's bad, some of it is so wild that we can't predict what it'll actually be used for. When you see people on facebook/etc talking about any new tech, you will always see some variation of a line from Jurassic Park:
"Your scientists were so preoccupied with whether or not they could, they didn’t stop to think if they should."
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One thing that always bothered me about that movie is that I could never figure out if that character was deliberately written as a blowhard, or if the real issue was that Michael Crichton was a blowhard. Especially troubling is the fact that the dinosaurs aren;t really an essential part of their troubles at all. The tribulations suffered by the characters in Jurassic Park differ only trivially from the real life San Francisco Zoo tiger attacks, in which dangerous animals got out and mauled zoo patrons without any mad science occurring at all
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Similarly, the main conflicts in both Frankenstein and The Island of Doctor Moreau are more attributable to the titular scientists being complete assholes than they are to science going too far
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