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Started by Dimocritus, April 25, 2020, 06:41:36 AM

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Doktor Howl

Quote from: Hagtard Celine Dion Mustard on April 25, 2020, 08:29:23 PM
Quote from: Dimocritus on April 25, 2020, 06:41:36 AM
Help me convince my friends to vote for Biden.

It's not your job to convince them to vote for Biden. It's Biden's job to convince them to vote for Biden.

Right now, Biden needs to be afraid of losing. There are still seven months between now and the election that he has to start speaking the language of people who are interested in more than just a return to "normalcy" - the same normalcy that got us into this cave of blunders in the first place. The same normalcy that a GOP-led senate will delightfully continue to face-fuck (since they don't have to make progress in order to win because stagnation is part of their long game; as long as they're obstructing, they're as happy as a Cuban in cocaine). Biden's projected strategy is to open negotiations by asking for less than what everyone wants. There's still time to change that plan, but the only way he'll even think about pushing harder is if he's scared shitless that the powers behind him have kept us all so blitheringly, drooling stupid for so long that we might just be dumb enough to trigger the end of the Mexican standoff.

Speaking of negotiations, everyone already fucking blew it when they started out by saying they'd vote for literally anyone other than Trump. Way to show your hand at cards, you poor, deluded weasels. When you tell the DNC that you'll take anything they give you, that's exactly what you get.

Don't give me any shit about Biden getting more votes, either. People en masse are ridiculously easy to socially engineer, not to mention all the other circumstances around primaries that contribute towards him winding up as the default. When Sanders raises the amounts of money he did from non-corporate donors and fills out stadiums country-wide but Biden shows up and just Matt-Damons himself into the front, you know there's something seriously fucked about the whole process.

Stop trying to concede everything you want just because you're afraid of another four years of Orange Man or conservative judges packed dick-to-asshole in courts across the country. Nothing about either of those things is in any way permanent. Will they retard progress? Sure. Won't everything?

Right now, you're walking up to a prostitute and asking her if you can take her out to dinner. You're already paying for the sex; maybe you should start making her prove that she's the right whore for you.

You've been low key MAGA since you've been here.  What, 3 years or so?

Your comments will be taken under advisement1.





1 In my world, that means "go fuck yourself."
Molon Lube

Doktor Howl

Quote from: Pergamos on April 26, 2020, 12:39:23 AM

Biden isnt going to fix anything, but he's going to break less things than Trump and the government was never going to fix things, not even under Sanders.  That's up to the people.

The government IS the people.

Just not people like you and I.
Molon Lube

Hagtard Celine Dion Mustard

Quote from: Doktor Howl on April 26, 2020, 03:09:15 AM
You've been low key MAGA since you've been here.

You just don't know how to read someone who has opinions you don't understand without projecting your own issues onto them.
"I never thought of shaving my beard and freeing the slaves, but I thought of shaving the slaves and freeing my beard!"
~ Abrahaham Lincololn

Hagtard Celine Dion Mustard

#18
Quote from: altered on April 26, 2020, 01:35:17 AM
Quote from: Hagtard Celine Dion Mustard on April 26, 2020, 12:31:57 AM
Quote from: altered on April 25, 2020, 09:43:45 PM
If one of those health problems explodes, and I have no doubt it will, and the doctors say "oh, tranny freak" and decide I deserve to die, I'm gone forever.

If you ever find yourself in a time and place where doctors at a hospital say "oh, tranny freak" and decide you deserve to die, the world you live in has far bigger problems than electing Joe Biden can solve.

Then you would prefer to have people die to prove a point than to help people live by compromising your convictions.

This makes you a monster.

What the Fuck Mountain are you even talking about? Not a damn thing I said is anything close to this.

You missed my point entirely, which doesn't matter since I'm sure you don't give a shit what my point was.

And Cramulus wonders why I refrain from "participating".
"I never thought of shaving my beard and freeing the slaves, but I thought of shaving the slaves and freeing my beard!"
~ Abrahaham Lincololn

The Wizard Joseph

Quote from: Hagtard Celine Dion Mustard on April 26, 2020, 03:29:57 AM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on April 26, 2020, 03:09:15 AM
You've been low key MAGA since you've been here.

You just don't know how to read someone who has opinions you don't understand without projecting your own issues onto them.

Sounds like shoddy MAGA gaslighting and limp-dick grandstanding to me. I'm pretty sure Howl understands you perfectly, now. FUNNY thing is that he even spoke well of you a bit when I expressed what a fuckstick shitnozzle you were to him. You don't deserve the tacit acceptance you have had here. The only thing occasionally amusing about you is a stale comic that has in the past been amusing, but is ultimately just you being unable to let go of some memes used against you years ago.

Get fucked.
I mean that.
You can't get out backward.  You have to go forward to go back.. better press on! - Willie Wonka, PBUH

Life can be seen as a game with no reset button, no extra lives, and if the power goes out there is no restarting.  If that's all you see life as you are not long for this world, and never will get it.

"Ayn Rand never swung a hammer in her life and had serious dominance issues" - The Fountainhead

"World domination is such an ugly phrase. I prefer to call it world optimisation."
- Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality :lulz:

"You program the controller to do the thing, only it doesn't do the thing.  It does something else entirely, or nothing at all.  It's like voting."
- Billy, Aug 21st, 2019

"It's not even chaos anymore. It's BANAL."
- Doktor Hamish Howl

Hagtard Celine Dion Mustard

Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on April 26, 2020, 03:38:00 AM
Quote from: Hagtard Celine Dion Mustard on April 26, 2020, 03:29:57 AM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on April 26, 2020, 03:09:15 AM
You've been low key MAGA since you've been here.

You just don't know how to read someone who has opinions you don't understand without projecting your own issues onto them.

Sounds like shoddy MAGA gaslighting and limp-dick grandstanding to me. I'm pretty sure Howl understands you perfectly, now. FUNNY thing is that he even spoke well of you a bit when I expressed what a fuckstick shitnozzle you were to him. You don't deserve the tacit acceptance you have had here. The only thing occasionally amusing about you is a stale comic that has in the past been amusing, but is ultimately just you being unable to let go of some memes used against you years ago.

Get fucked.
I mean that.

Dude, shut up.
"I never thought of shaving my beard and freeing the slaves, but I thought of shaving the slaves and freeing my beard!"
~ Abrahaham Lincololn

The Wizard Joseph

Quote from: Hagtard Celine Dion Mustard on April 26, 2020, 03:41:20 AM
Quote from: The Wizard Joseph on April 26, 2020, 03:38:00 AM
Quote from: Hagtard Celine Dion Mustard on April 26, 2020, 03:29:57 AM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on April 26, 2020, 03:09:15 AM
You've been low key MAGA since you've been here.

You just don't know how to read someone who has opinions you don't understand without projecting your own issues onto them.

Sounds like shoddy MAGA gaslighting and limp-dick grandstanding to me. I'm pretty sure Howl understands you perfectly, now. FUNNY thing is that he even spoke well of you a bit when I expressed what a fuckstick shitnozzle you were to him. You don't deserve the tacit acceptance you have had here. The only thing occasionally amusing about you is a stale comic that has in the past been amusing, but is ultimately just you being unable to let go of some memes used against you years ago.

Get fucked.
I mean that.

Dude, shut up.
You are SUCH a fast learner.
:butthurt2:
You can't get out backward.  You have to go forward to go back.. better press on! - Willie Wonka, PBUH

Life can be seen as a game with no reset button, no extra lives, and if the power goes out there is no restarting.  If that's all you see life as you are not long for this world, and never will get it.

"Ayn Rand never swung a hammer in her life and had serious dominance issues" - The Fountainhead

"World domination is such an ugly phrase. I prefer to call it world optimisation."
- Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality :lulz:

"You program the controller to do the thing, only it doesn't do the thing.  It does something else entirely, or nothing at all.  It's like voting."
- Billy, Aug 21st, 2019

"It's not even chaos anymore. It's BANAL."
- Doktor Hamish Howl

Hagtard Celine Dion Mustard

What is it exactly that any of you think I'm actually saying?

I'm not sure why I'm bothering to say anything at all. This place is and always has been like a massive immune response system where if anything seems politically strange to the hivemind, everyone loses their shit and descends in full force upon the offending intruder - even when that person is not saying what it is you seem to think that they're saying.
"I never thought of shaving my beard and freeing the slaves, but I thought of shaving the slaves and freeing my beard!"
~ Abrahaham Lincololn

The Wizard Joseph

Quote from: Hagtard Celine Dion Mustard on April 26, 2020, 03:47:28 AM
What is it exactly that any of you think I'm actually saying?

I'm not sure why I'm bothering to say anything at all. This place is and always has been like a massive immune response system where if anything seems politically strange to the hivemind, everyone loses their shit and descends in full force upon the offending intruder - even when that person is not saying what it is you seem to think that they're saying.
Quickly Hard a-port! Divert! Divert damn your eyes! If this remains about what was said It's OVER. Quickly now lads!! Make this about how unfair the board is!! TURN! TURN YOU WHORE FROM HELL!!

:butthurt:
chode
You can't get out backward.  You have to go forward to go back.. better press on! - Willie Wonka, PBUH

Life can be seen as a game with no reset button, no extra lives, and if the power goes out there is no restarting.  If that's all you see life as you are not long for this world, and never will get it.

"Ayn Rand never swung a hammer in her life and had serious dominance issues" - The Fountainhead

"World domination is such an ugly phrase. I prefer to call it world optimisation."
- Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality :lulz:

"You program the controller to do the thing, only it doesn't do the thing.  It does something else entirely, or nothing at all.  It's like voting."
- Billy, Aug 21st, 2019

"It's not even chaos anymore. It's BANAL."
- Doktor Hamish Howl

Hagtard Celine Dion Mustard

"I never thought of shaving my beard and freeing the slaves, but I thought of shaving the slaves and freeing my beard!"
~ Abrahaham Lincololn

The Wizard Joseph

 :lulz: :lulz: :lulz: :lulz: :lulz: :lulz: :lulz: :lulz: :lulz: :lulz:

YES... reach for the familiar memes to establish a sense of control for yourself. It's a GOOD thing you aren't actually playing chess. I don't know who TOOK your control from you or when, I'm not that big of a dick that I would pry like that into you, but... it's definitely left you predictable. I won't pick at your traumas, but they are there and you can't actually control shit, least of all yourself.
You can't get out backward.  You have to go forward to go back.. better press on! - Willie Wonka, PBUH

Life can be seen as a game with no reset button, no extra lives, and if the power goes out there is no restarting.  If that's all you see life as you are not long for this world, and never will get it.

"Ayn Rand never swung a hammer in her life and had serious dominance issues" - The Fountainhead

"World domination is such an ugly phrase. I prefer to call it world optimisation."
- Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality :lulz:

"You program the controller to do the thing, only it doesn't do the thing.  It does something else entirely, or nothing at all.  It's like voting."
- Billy, Aug 21st, 2019

"It's not even chaos anymore. It's BANAL."
- Doktor Hamish Howl

hooplala

It doesn't make us a hive mind just because we all think you are an asshole.
"Soon all of us will have special names" — Professor Brian O'Blivion

"Now's not the time to get silly, so wear your big boots and jump on the garbage clowns." — Bob Dylan?

"Do I contradict myself?
Very well then I contradict myself,
(I am large, I contain multitudes.)"
— Walt Whitman

Faust

Quote from: Hagtard Celine Dion Mustard on April 26, 2020, 03:47:28 AM
What is it exactly that any of you think I'm actually saying?

I'm not sure why I'm bothering to say anything at all. This place is and always has been like a massive immune response system where if anything seems politically strange to the hivemind, everyone loses their shit and descends in full force upon the offending intruder - even when that person is not saying what it is you seem to think that they're saying.

I got what you were saying, even if the others don't. Yes if the normalisation of that kind of awful behaviour reaches the point where doctors are willing to let a transgender person die, whomever is president doesnt matter a shite.
But what it does do is either slow the slippery slope or allow for the start of a gradual reverse of direction where some of the awful shit Trump has normalised can be gradually undone.
Sleepless nights at the chateau

The Wizard Joseph

1. I get what he's saying, it's just dismissive and stupid, and he would rather take a low swipe at folks that actually like him somewhat than be confronted with his own shitty tactics. I am... unsympathetic.

2. Not sure you GET how far things are already as far as the literal thing under discussion, trans folks getting dead for being trans and needing medical care, Faust. It's ACTUALLY already well into "normalized" tacitly and now being EXPLICITLY sanctioned. There is not, and kinda never was, a nice gradual path back to be walked.

https://planettransgender.com/trump-treatment-of-covid19-transgender-patients-is-optional/

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/hhs-allow-doctors-to-refuse-lgbtq/
You can't get out backward.  You have to go forward to go back.. better press on! - Willie Wonka, PBUH

Life can be seen as a game with no reset button, no extra lives, and if the power goes out there is no restarting.  If that's all you see life as you are not long for this world, and never will get it.

"Ayn Rand never swung a hammer in her life and had serious dominance issues" - The Fountainhead

"World domination is such an ugly phrase. I prefer to call it world optimisation."
- Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality :lulz:

"You program the controller to do the thing, only it doesn't do the thing.  It does something else entirely, or nothing at all.  It's like voting."
- Billy, Aug 21st, 2019

"It's not even chaos anymore. It's BANAL."
- Doktor Hamish Howl

The Johnny

Quote from: Hagtard Celine Dion Mustard on April 26, 2020, 03:33:49 AM
Quote from: altered on April 26, 2020, 01:35:17 AM
Quote from: Hagtard Celine Dion Mustard on April 26, 2020, 12:31:57 AM
Quote from: altered on April 25, 2020, 09:43:45 PM
If one of those health problems explodes, and I have no doubt it will, and the doctors say "oh, tranny freak" and decide I deserve to die, I'm gone forever.

If you ever find yourself in a time and place where doctors at a hospital say "oh, tranny freak" and decide you deserve to die, the world you live in has far bigger problems than electing Joe Biden can solve.

Then you would prefer to have people die to prove a point than to help people live by compromising your convictions.

This makes you a monster.

What the Fuck Mountain are you even talking about? Not a damn thing I said is anything close to this.

You missed my point entirely, which doesn't matter since I'm sure you don't give a shit what my point was.

And Cramulus wonders why I refrain from "participating".

I guess the "appropriate response" you were looking for was among the lines of:

"Oh, thanks for the great insight! I'll go dig my own grave instead of wasting everyones time and attention! I for sure was blind to the fact that Biden was not gonna be the pathway to utopia! What a retard i was before you taught me about how the world works!"

WE KNOW, you're missing the point entirely.
<<My image in some places, is of a monster of some kind who wants to pull a string and manipulate people. Nothing could be further from the truth. People are manipulated; I just want them to be manipulated more effectively.>>

-B.F. Skinner