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Re: Open Bar: Curbside Pickup Only
« Reply #45 on: July 13, 2020, 04:51:30 pm »
Interesting, how do you mean?
I see horror the odd individual horror parts: body horror for the Klingon Dude, Pike knowing his fate, spore drive eating the ship, but it conflicts with the presentation and the super upbeat way everyone speaks to each other. When I say exploration, I see it for some of the individual events and episodes, but not for the overarching plot of the Klingon conflict or the Red Angel / AI thing. It's violent frequently, but I never felt any sense of horror
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« Reply #46 on: July 13, 2020, 04:57:09 pm »
Interesting, how do you mean?
I see horror the odd individual horror parts: body horror for the Klingon Dude, Pike knowing his fate, spore drive eating the ship, but it conflicts with the presentation and the super upbeat way everyone speaks to each other. When I say exploration, I see it for some of the individual events and episodes, but not for the overarching plot of the Klingon conflict or the Red Angel / AI thing. It's violent frequently, but I never felt any sense of horror

Dude, ep 2 was the classic derelict ship horror.  Every ep was a different horror trope, including but not definitely limited to the ones you named.

Thing is, somewhere, the federation shines brightly.  Somewhere people are happy and equal.  Just not these schmoes.  They're stuck out there, and EVERY SINGLE horror trope is used, but they're federation so they keep on keeping on, because THIS series is about remembering who you are, no matter how bad it gets.

The tropes are horror, the script-writing is Star Trek, and I love that combo.

Beats the fuck out of watching the bridge crew play flutes, anyway.
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« Reply #47 on: July 13, 2020, 05:07:17 pm »
What they NEED to do is Star Trek: Howl.
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« Reply #48 on: July 13, 2020, 05:13:31 pm »
Eventually fed up of his complaining about the monkeys not leaving his planet, the monkeys bundled Howl into an oil barrel and shot him out past the further reaches of the galaxy, where his continuing mission of exploration each week is both sexy and Nightmarish

I'm going to go back and watch some random episodes of discovery, its possible I missed those individual plots bundled up with the wishy washy red angel, Multiverse, time travel AI shite, but there is something to what you are saying, the second ep derelict ship, I suppose parts even of the Harry Mud time loop, and Saru's sisters world with the horrible oppressive ruling fish monsters.
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« Reply #49 on: July 13, 2020, 05:14:11 pm »
Interesting, how do you mean?
I see horror the odd individual horror parts: body horror for the Klingon Dude, Pike knowing his fate, spore drive eating the ship, but it conflicts with the presentation and the super upbeat way everyone speaks to each other. When I say exploration, I see it for some of the individual events and episodes, but not for the overarching plot of the Klingon conflict or the Red Angel / AI thing. It's violent frequently, but I never felt any sense of horror

Dude, ep 2 was the classic derelict ship horror.  Every ep was a different horror trope, including but not definitely limited to the ones you named.

Thing is, somewhere, the federation shines brightly.  Somewhere people are happy and equal.  Just not these schmoes.  They're stuck out there, and EVERY SINGLE horror trope is used, but they're federation so they keep on keeping on, because THIS series is about remembering who you are, no matter how bad it gets.

The tropes are horror, the script-writing is Star Trek, and I love that combo.

Beats the fuck out of watching the bridge crew play flutes, anyway.

I stopped watching shortly after they hop universes in season 1 (I knew Lorca was a fuck from ep 1 onward) and have yet to pick it back up just yet. This is by no means a measure of distaste. The shit was too intense for me at the time. It was like my mind just needed a break because it was adding to the existing horror IRL and it was just like too much black pepper, and I LOVE black pepper, so it was like a loooot of it.

I do intend to finish it, if I can get CBS access again.

What they NEED to do is Star Trek: Howl.

It could focus on the life of an engineering crew doing all sorts of irregular shit to keep an ill supplied frigate making supply runs that gets pulled into high adventure plot, but always in the background as implausible and horrible bullshit orders come down from the bridge.
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Re: Open Bar: Curbside Pickup Only
« Reply #50 on: July 13, 2020, 05:15:51 pm »
Eventually fed up of his complaining about the monkeys not leaving his planet, the monkeys bundled Howl into an oil barrel and shot him out past the further reaches of the galaxy, where his continuing mission of exploration each week is both sexy and Nightmarish

I'm going to go back and watch some random episodes of discovery, its possible I missed those individual plots bundled up with the wishy washy red angel, Multiverse, time travel AI shite, but there is something to what you are saying, the second ep derelict ship, I suppose parts even of the Harry Mud time loop, and Saru's sisters world with the horrible oppressive ruling fish monsters.


...who more or less turned out to be the good guys.  Or, I should say, the less bad guys.
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« Reply #51 on: July 13, 2020, 05:24:57 pm »
Eventually fed up of his complaining about the monkeys not leaving his planet, the monkeys bundled Howl into an oil barrel and shot him out past the further reaches of the galaxy, where his continuing mission of exploration each week is both sexy and Nightmarish

It could focus on the life of an engineering crew doing all sorts of irregular shit to keep an ill supplied frigate making supply runs that gets pulled into high adventure plot, but always in the background as implausible and horrible bullshit orders come down from the bridge.

No, it would be an R&D ship like in Discovery, only designed by committee and incomplete, like Enterprise...And the bits that ARE there are obsolete/worn out, like in DS9 season 1.

I would be the science officer, I think, at least these days.  The engineer would always be looking to cut costs at the expense of safety, the first officer just sits in his office and sweats, and the medical officers have Covid 19.  I don't know who the security folks are, because man, do they come and go.  Don't even learn their names, you'll only get hurt.

The weapons officer is explaining navigation to the navigator, who isn't paying attention because she's hitting on that hot new ensign.  The ensign is trying to grow a mustache to look more promotible. 

There are - and I can't stress this enough - NO alien human hybrids. 

Cramulus is the morale officer and Altered is the counselor. 

The Captain hasn't been seen in years.  There in fact has not been contact with any elements in the federation, and not because we've gotten flung out to the gamma quadrant, it's just that star fleet is annoying as hell, so we ripped the commo circuits out four years ago.
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« Reply #52 on: July 13, 2020, 05:36:21 pm »
In fairness, it was the captain who did it and everyone else just sort of said “well that wasn’t supposed to happen but honestly fuck those assholes, time to get the real work done”.

Also, I have a sideline in armory work because I love to tinker with phasers and the last armorer got in a confrontation with Cramulus and went to the last functioning holodeck and hasn’t been seen since.
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« Reply #53 on: July 13, 2020, 05:38:15 pm »
I want to be a not-too-bright Ferengi with connections in the black market that are nowhere nearly as good as he thinks and so he's always getting bottom grade dilithium and tainted "bio memetic gel" from dubious sources, but it's the only shit available outside of Federation regulations.

I may also be running a holo-brothel scam on the side.
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« Reply #54 on: July 13, 2020, 05:41:10 pm »
“Pay no attention to the bones in the corner.”

“I don’t like them. Computer, remove those bones.”

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“Pay no attention to the bones in the corner.”
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« Reply #55 on: July 13, 2020, 06:06:02 pm »
“Pay no attention to the bones in the corner.”

“I don’t like them. Computer, remove those bones.”

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“Pay no attention to the bones in the corner.”
"No refunds"

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*arch appears, its sharpness contrasting against the shitty holo-resolution*

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You can't get out backward.  You have to go forward to go back.. better press on! - Willie Wonka, PBUH

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« Reply #56 on: July 13, 2020, 06:23:19 pm »
Holodeck.   :lulz:

NO.  There is no time for such fripperies.  There is only time for the hard work of beaming tribbles into the replicator, because that's how science gets managed in the future.

If you want holodecks and brothels, you can tune into TNG and DS9.  On this Star Trek, we've got things to do.

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« Reply #57 on: July 13, 2020, 06:29:05 pm »
I said it WAS the last working one.

I didn’t say anyone USED it anymore. Dead man stink puts a damper on the proceedings.
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« Reply #58 on: July 13, 2020, 06:30:54 pm »
If we can't make a star implode, then what's the POINT of all this stuff?
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« Reply #59 on: July 13, 2020, 06:34:39 pm »
How many times do I have to say I'm sorry about Holodecks 1-8 and 10-14???

in my defense, everybody clicked YES to the terms of service; they CONSENTED to what happened to them.




Deserved what they got, IMO.