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My favorite take on quantum coherence/decoherence phenomena is Bohrian mechanics.

In Bohrian mechanics, many-worlds is literally true, but only one universe actually has any matter, the rest just behave as if they had matter. Ghost universes. It makes all of my friends freak the FUCK out.  :lulz:

LMNO:
I really like how Yudkowsky uses Occam's Razor to support his assertion that the Many Worlds theory (not the Bohrian one, the one where infinite universes actually exist) is the one that has the simplest explanation, and therefore is most likely to be true.

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My issue with the Everett-Wheeler Many Worlds is the infinite mass. You have to posit at least one extra dimension that is infinite in extent (with infinities of space between the separate worlds) for it to work. Even with concepts like mass-energy barriers and string theory boundaries it still stinks, because gravity is so strong on cosmologically-large scales. You have to provide a physical mechanic to separate mass interactions from different Everett-Wheeler branches, separate them by brute force infinite distance (which is possibly physically incoherent, in the same way that considering "what if there were really infinite cigars" is), or conclude it makes no sense.

Doktor Howl:

--- Quote from: LMNO on August 21, 2020, 06:08:00 pm ---
--- Quote from: cno ---Nobody wanted this quantum physics crap, it was invented so that we had a mathematical model for the weirdness we were observing.  And the model works.
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Yes!  The early 20th century physicists were pissed at what the math was telling them.  As it turns out, Einstein spend a large part of his later life trying to prove that there was something that would make it all comprehensible.  He wanted to prove quantum behavior was wrong.

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Feynman said that if QM didn't piss you off, you didn't understand it.

Doktor Howl:

--- Quote from: LMNO on August 21, 2020, 10:02:41 pm ---I really like how Yudkowsky uses Occam's Razor to support his assertion that the Many Worlds theory (not the Bohrian one, the one where infinite universes actually exist) is the one that has the simplest explanation, and therefore is most likely to be true.

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The math says it is so, so it is so.

Which is why the Alcubierre Drive can't work.  Gravity has to be common to all universes.

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