Yeah, fuckface! Get ready to be beaten down. Grrr! Internet ain't so safe now is it motherfucker! Shit just got real! Bam!
Started by serendipity, January 23, 2022, 08:47:53 PM
Quote from: serendipity on January 24, 2022, 11:57:24 PMthat's a good point - funnily enough i think i saw someone writing recently about not mistaking a deliberately adversarial environment for a neutral one. i really should get around to learning about marketing
Quote from: POFP on January 25, 2022, 06:30:44 PMThe point here, is that Motivation is complicated, and [fun] is not a very effective motivator when the back of your brain is tiringly focused on what the Power Structure wants for reasons Dok explained. When you can convince someone that the Power Structure is responsible for their general stress (AKA, accurately identifying "Those Bastards Over There" in a high-tech, highly complex society.), the back of their brain wakes up the front of the brain because the back doesn't know how to deal with organizational complexity and nuance, and TFYSS™ manifests naturally. This is because stress over-invokes the survival networks in the center/back of the brain, which tells the front to pipe down. When you're in that State, you look for the path of least resistance. TFYSS™ manifests when those networks identify a better, but more conscious path that requires the front-brain. Those who wish to prevent TFYSS™ have an interest in reducing visibility of those paths with layers of back-brain placation and situational helplessness (If you're stressed and you think there's no way out, there's no need to stop doing what you're doing.).
Quote from: Doktor Howl on January 24, 2022, 04:02:12 AMThat's not a bad hypothesis, but there's another possibility.2 million years of primate survival have taught us to emulate the successful. When we had to worry about leopards and Those Other Bastards Over There hogging up all the game, that was a really good strategy. In a high tech society, it's not a particularly successful.However, the fact is that we existed for hundreds of thousands of years in the first case, and maybe a hundred years in the second case. Now, marketing nerds understand this, so your views are presented to you by one of three types:Athletic young men.Distinguished older men.Hot young blondes.They aren't talking to the front of your brain, they're talking more towards the back, because the great majority of people will listen to and absorb what they have to say, because they are perceived as being the winners of the tribe by the part of your brain that spends all its time looking for leopards (and, of course, Those Other Bastards Over There).Turn on the TV and hit a "news" channel, just for one example, and watch it with the sound off. You don't know what they're saying, but at least part of you wants to trust them anyway.
Quote from: POFP on January 26, 2022, 03:40:32 PMWanted to clarify that Think For Yourself Schmuck isn't necessarily only tied to survival situations, or systems that focus on those areas of the brain
Quote from: Doktor Howl on January 28, 2022, 11:36:18 PMQuote from: POFP on January 26, 2022, 03:40:32 PMWanted to clarify that Think For Yourself Schmuck isn't necessarily only tied to survival situations, or systems that focus on those areas of the brainActually, in survival situations, TFYSS is a non-starter. Group thinking does, after all, have its advantages when the chips are down. Everyone pulling the same direction is better than scattershot responses, even if everyone is pulling in a non-optimal direction.That being said, the person that panics first usually survives. It's never too early to panic.
Quote from: POFP on January 26, 2022, 03:40:32 PMYou can tell if you're heavily influenced in this way by whether significant group paradigm shifts, cause you to tune out completely, as opposed to redirecting your focus on adapting to the new paradigm and/or fighting it/supporting it. Maybe a fact comes out about some political topic that makes your "Tribe's" Reality Map fall apart. Front-brain auto-pilot will favor incorporation of the new information into your personal Reality Map and presenting it to your Tribe for review. Back-brain auto-pilot will take you offline for a few weeks, and then you'll be back to beating the same dead horse. Or maybe you don't even need the downtime to escape, and you're able to forget the information or use memes to (in your mind) refute it without extra consideration.