Civilian Gun Violence in 'Merica

[Pergamos]

I have never fired a rifle equipped with a bump stock. But, it is my understanding that bump stocks severely reduce the accuracy of such a rifle. So, that make a rifle equipped with a bump stock unsuitable for target shooting. In any case, automatic, and even semi-automatic rifles can not be legally used for hunting game in, at least, my state. (There used to be an exception allowing handicapped hunters to use semi-automatic rifles, and that exception may still exist.)

So, what is a rifle equipped with a bump stock actually good for? Well, as has already been well proven, it's a great choice for an indiscriminate mass shooter.

"Republicans block bill to outlaw bump stocks for rifles after Supreme Court lifts Trump-era ban"

As per this article:

"WASHINGTON (AP) — Senate Republicans blocked bipartisan legislation Tuesday that would have outlawed bump stocks after the Supreme Court struck down a ban on the rapid-fire gun accessory used in the deadliest shooting in modern U.S. history.

Democrats tried to force a voice vote on the bill to ban bump stocks, a tactic often used by both parties when they know that they don't have the votes to pass legislation but want to bring an issue to the Senate floor. The bill, sponsored by Sens. Martin Heinrich, D-N.M., and Susan Collins, R-Maine, would ban the sale of the devices, similar to the rule issued by President Donald Trump's administration after a gunman in Las Vegas attacked a country music festival in 2017 with semiautomatic rifles equipped with the accessories."

And, as per further along in this article:

"Nebraska Sen. Pete Ricketts objected for Republicans, blocking an immediate vote on the bill. He called the legislation a "gun grabbing overreach" that could be interpreted to include other gun accessories beyond bump stocks."

Here's this link:    Republicult™ Blocks Bill Outlawing Bump Stocks

As surviving a mass shooting, as well as initiating one, is becoming something a 'rite of passage' in the US of A, the Republicult™ is certainly doing its part to make sure it actually becomes another 'Merican tradition.

someone facing a lynch mob is also an "indiscriminate mass shooter" That particular situation gets ignored by Dems and GOP both, but an automatic weapon is extremely nice to have if you are facing a mob.

[Doktor Howl]

I have never fired a rifle equipped with a bump stock. But, it is my understanding that bump stocks severely reduce the accuracy of such a rifle. So, that make a rifle equipped with a bump stock unsuitable for target shooting. In any case, automatic, and even semi-automatic rifles can not be legally used for hunting game in, at least, my state. (There used to be an exception allowing handicapped hunters to use semi-automatic rifles, and that exception may still exist.)

So, what is a rifle equipped with a bump stock actually good for? Well, as has already been well proven, it's a great choice for an indiscriminate mass shooter.

"Republicans block bill to outlaw bump stocks for rifles after Supreme Court lifts Trump-era ban"

As per this article:

"WASHINGTON (AP) — Senate Republicans blocked bipartisan legislation Tuesday that would have outlawed bump stocks after the Supreme Court struck down a ban on the rapid-fire gun accessory used in the deadliest shooting in modern U.S. history.

Democrats tried to force a voice vote on the bill to ban bump stocks, a tactic often used by both parties when they know that they don't have the votes to pass legislation but want to bring an issue to the Senate floor. The bill, sponsored by Sens. Martin Heinrich, D-N.M., and Susan Collins, R-Maine, would ban the sale of the devices, similar to the rule issued by President Donald Trump's administration after a gunman in Las Vegas attacked a country music festival in 2017 with semiautomatic rifles equipped with the accessories."

And, as per further along in this article:

"Nebraska Sen. Pete Ricketts objected for Republicans, blocking an immediate vote on the bill. He called the legislation a "gun grabbing overreach" that could be interpreted to include other gun accessories beyond bump stocks."

Here's this link:    Republicult™ Blocks Bill Outlawing Bump Stocks

As surviving a mass shooting, as well as initiating one, is becoming something a 'rite of passage' in the US of A, the Republicult™ is certainly doing its part to make sure it actually becomes another 'Merican tradition.

someone facing a lynch mob is also an "indiscriminate mass shooter" That particular situation gets ignored by Dems and GOP both, but an automatic weapon is extremely nice to have if you are facing a mob.

A Halligan tool is better.  Both options still wind up with you dead, but if you use a Halligan tool, people will talk about it in hushed tones for three generations.

[Abbot Mythos]

someone facing a lynch mob is also an "indiscriminate mass shooter" That particular situation gets ignored by Dems and GOP both, but an automatic weapon is extremely nice to have if you are facing a mob.

I got a big kick, and a smile out of your reply. It reminded me of the time, years ago, when a friend and I were confronted by a small "mob" in an open, very public place.

I WOULD NOT BE ALIVE TODAY, AND WRITING THIS REPLY if I, or my friend, or both of us had been visibly carrying any type of firearms. And, that's because that small "mob" (Six young men.) already had their automatic weapons in their hands, and aimed directly at us from close range (Three steps out of my reach, and two steps out of my friend's reach.), before we even knew we were in any kind of trouble in that open, very public place.

And, that was also the day I came to the realization that a gun ain't worth JACK FUCKING GODDAMNED SHIT, if it's not loaded and in your hand well before the other guy(s) can get one(s) in his/their hand(s).

[Faust]

If one more ceo gets shot then the discussion about control of firearms will start.

I give it till end jan before that happens

[Abbot Mythos]

"Missouri Rep-elect wants to repeal ban on silencers—for public health reasons"

As per this article:

"Missouri Rep-elect Mike Costlow (R) wants to loosen the state's ban on silencers to protect hunters' and firearm enthusiasts' hearing. Costlow claims "...restricting those puts people at risk," by exposing them to excessive sound levels."

Here's the link:   Repeal Ban on Silencers 'Cause Risk to Public Health

I, on the other hand, believe the high velocity lead flying out of the business end of a firearm is far more unhealthy. And, that's not even taking into account the real, documented health risks associated with excessive lead levels in the human body.

[Pergamos]

someone facing a lynch mob is also an "indiscriminate mass shooter" That particular situation gets ignored by Dems and GOP both, but an automatic weapon is extremely nice to have if you are facing a mob.

I got a big kick, and a smile out of your reply. It reminded me of the time, years ago, when a friend and I were confronted by a small "mob" in an open, very public place.

I WOULD NOT BE ALIVE TODAY, AND WRITING THIS REPLY if I, or my friend, or both of us had been visibly carrying any type of firearms. And, that's because that small "mob" (Six young men.) already had their automatic weapons in their hands, and aimed directly at us from close range (Three steps out of my reach, and two steps out of my friend's reach.), before we even knew we were in any kind of trouble in that open, very public place.

And, that was also the day I came to the realization that a gun ain't worth JACK FUCKING GODDAMNED SHIT, if it's not loaded and in your hand well before the other guy(s) can get one(s) in his/their hand(s).

That mob was explicitly not a lynch mob, how do we know that?  Because you and your friend were not lynched.

As you pointed out a bump stock weapon is less accurate than it would be without the bump stock, so against one victim it doesn't give the mob any advantage, even if every member has one, meanwhile it gives the outnumbered person way more chance to kill the members of the mob. 

In your case, if you had been armed you would have probably been killed, which was not the outcome the mob you were facing was hoping for, meanwhile for a victim of a lynch mob, if they are unarmed they absolutely will be killed because that is the outcome the mob is looking for.  If they are armed they will probably still die, but they have a much higher chance of taking some of their killers with them.

[Abbot Mythos]

I think I know the difference between a "reflex" and a "conditioned response." But, when I see articles like this, I begin to question my knowledge:

"Republicans balk at child fatality report recommending no guns in households with children"

"The GOP lawmakers claim the state is 'stripping' 2nd Amendment rights by saying fewer kids would die if they had less access to firearms"

As per this article:

"Two Republican state representatives have accused the Arizona Department of Health Services of coming after the Second Amendment rights of parents after the agency concluded in its annual Child Fatality Review Team report that there would be fewer children killed by guns in Arizona if there were fewer firearms in homes.
 
"We are appalled that the (Child Fatality Review Team) speaking on behalf of the Arizona Department of Health Services, is actually advocating for stripping Arizonans of their Second Amendment rights in their own homes," Reps. Quang Nguyen and Selina Bliss wrote in a letter to Jennie Cunico, head of Arizona DHS, on Monday. 

But the report, released in November, doesn't actually advocate for that."

Here's the link to the article:      Republicult™ Elected Officials Favor Having Guns in Households with Children

Now, I grew up in a "Gun Culture." I was somewhere around twelve years old when my father taught me how to handle a shotgun (I might have been even a bit younger.). And, as I grew up near the middle of nowhere, I was taught in our backyard. (Our backyard was very large. Shotgun pellets wouldn't carry anywhere near the distance to the next houses.) After that, I was hunting deer by myself, with a rifle, years before I could legally drive. (Legal driving age in my state is and was 16 years old.) And, I was allowed to buy my first pistol, a 22LR semi-automatic, around the same time I obtained my driving learner's permit. So, I think I know a little bit about guns and "gun culture."

Still, the above kind of "thinking" from adults old enough to hold elected office is foreign to me. Now, I still don't believe their response is a "reflex." So, I can't help wondering, who the hell taught these particular idiots to behave like this? And, why were they taught to behave like this?

[Abbot Mythos]

This state government "solution" amounts to no more than paying lip service to the solving of a deadly serious problem. It does little more than spread around some free money for their good ol' boys to spend:
 
What is Georgia Doing to Prevent School Shootings?

I'm not encouraging anyone to bother reading this article, as this Georgia bill's true purpose appears to be summed up in the following sentence: "Every public school in Georgia would get $68,000 to spend as local school officials see fit." And, I have no doubt the majority of Georgia's politicians already have their "thoughts and prayers" within easy reach for immediate use after their state's next mass school shooting.

It's hard for me to accept that the majority of 'Mericans find mass school shootings to be an acceptable way to live their lives. But then again, these mass school shootings continue to happen for the very same reasons we now have the treasonous shit stain (TSS) back in the Oval Office.

[Abbot Mythos]

Following is a long article about another well known Republicult™ turd.

I won't bore anyone with quotations. But, I found this article to be a little comforting, after noting it had been published on The Salt Lake Tribune website.

'This is not a joke': Sen. Amy Klobuchar rips Mike Lee for posts about a deadly Minnesota shooting

On a personal X account, Lee made apparent jokes tying the violence to Minnesota Democratic Gov. Tim Walz.

It's good to know there are some actual human beings to be found even within a bastion of The Republicult™. We need everyone we can muster to fight back against a political cult that has clearly embraced domestic terrorism.

[Abbot Mythos]

Conservative activist Charlie Kirk dead after being shot at university event, Trump says

As per this article:

"Kirk is a well-known gun activist and defender of the Second Amendment.

Immediately before the shooting, Kirk was taking questions for an audience member about mass shootings and gun violence."

So, to paraphrase, Kirk, who was a well-known gun activist and staunch defender of the Second Amendment, was himself Second Amendmented today, while ardently defending the Second Amendment he so loved.

[Faust]

I can see the conservative base is in meltdown over this. It shouldn't need to be said that murder of you political opposition is never acceptable.

The point is, the second ammendment makes it easy, to aquire a gun legally or illegally, the supply is there.

[Abbot Mythos]

When groups of 'Merican school children are Second Amendmented, the right-wing political response is always as follows:

1. Thoughts and prayers.
2. It's too soon to talk about gun violence.
3. Arm our teachers.
4. Station armed guards in our schools.
5. A good guy with a gun is the best defense against a bad guy with gun.   

So, as the right-wingers don't really give a damn about the all too frequent mass shootings of our children, I don't have much sympathy for them melting down over only one adult being shot. Therefore, my response to right-wingers is: "It's too soon to talk about gun violence."

[Faust]

The point is they are going full seige mentality and they will get meaner and more forgiving of the horrifying shit the government they voted in is up to, where they were starting to realise they had been betrayed

[Abbot Mythos]

The point is they are going full seige mentality and they will get meaner and more forgiving of the horrifying shit the government they voted in is up to, where they were starting to realise they had been betrayed

I agree with your assessment of the situation.

Unfortunately, today's 'Merican right-wingers have devolved into a tribe possessing an uncompromising "the end justifies the means mentality." And, their tribe is willing to accept significant collateral damage to achieve its objectives.

This explicit example of their tribal mentality took me no time at all to find:

Charlie Kirk: "It's worth to have a cost of, unfortunately, some gun deaths every single year so that we can have the Second Amendment"

Kirk: "Having an armed citizenry comes with a price, and that is part of liberty"

As per this article:

"CHARLIE KIRK (TPUSA PRESIDENT): The Second Amendment is not about hunting. I love hunting. The Second Amendment is not even about personal defense. That is important. The Second Amendment is there, God forbid, so that you can defend yourself against a tyrannical government."

Now, please note, that statement was made by the dead fucker himself, a beloved supporter, fundraiser, and spokesperson for the Turd Reich. And, that venomous entity is the best current example I can present of something that's openly attempting to establish itself as "a tyrannical government." So, is all of this irony, karma, both, something else, or some other combination of things?

Last, I do approve of, and applaud the efforts of those on the left and right who are sincerely attempting to to defuse, and deescalate the current right-wing outrage. But, while their efforts are meaningful to us, I don't honestly believe that anything anyone on left or right says in that regard is going to make any difference whatsoever to the tribe.

[Bruno]

I just hope the crazy gun nuts notice that America has gotten bored with school shootings, and if they really want to get people's attention, they'll have to shoot a right-wing commentator.