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President Biden Drops Out and Endorses VPOTUS Harris

Started by Brother Mythos, July 21, 2024, 08:48:33 PM

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Brother Mythos

Another subculture is joining the party. Far out, man!

"'Deadheads for Kamala' to mark Jerry Garcia's birthday with Harris fundraiser"

As per this article:

"A group dubbed "Deadheads for Kamala" will mark the late Grateful Dead guitarist Jerry Garcia's birthday with a fundraiser for Vice President Harris, who became the likely Democratic presidential nominee after President Biden withdrew from the race last week.
 
The virtual event, slated for Aug. 13, will celebrate Garcia's birthday and aim to mobilize attendees to help elect Harris for president this November, according to the event invitation.

It will be hosted by David Gans, the host of the radio program "The Grateful Dead Hour," and Steve Leventhal, the owner and host of Acid Flashback Radio, per the invitation.
 
Garcia died in August 1995 after suffering a heart attack at a residential drug treatment facility in Forest Knolls, Calif. He was 53 years old. Garcia's actual birthday is Aug. 1, but organizers said the event will take place on Aug. 13 due to a scheduling conflict."

Here's the link to this article:      'Deadheads for Kamala' Fundraiser 

Truckin', like the doo-dah man
Once told me, "You got to play your hand"
Sometimes the cards ain't worth a dime
If you don't lay 'em down

Menger, Avatar of New Chaos

Quote from: Brother Mythos on July 27, 2024, 07:28:40 AMMy reasoning is that I don't believe she actually needs Josh Shapiro to win the state.

it's not required for her to pick him to win the state, but it's the easiest path of victory, when given out of the presented options. I'd prefer if it was someone with a better progressive record than Shapiro, but the Dems need to win PA if they want to win the election and that state will be competitive if she picks another dude as VP. And also, I've disliked with how moderate she's been swinging the past couple of days (like walking back on the fracking ban and m4a), but I understand the thought process behind it because it seems she's focusing on getting the rust belt vote. If she wins PA, MI, and Wi, it would be exactly enough electoral votes to get her to 270 and win, without needing Arizona, Nevada, Georgia, or North Coralina. Granted, Trump did self-destruct at that black journalist event so the latter two swing states can be offered as a potential viable victory path, but the way she's running is like she wants to win, instead of pleasing every base and interest group.

Although honestly, at this point, I don't really care what they do or how they run. All I care about right now is Trump losing, and Shapiro is probably the best choice for that. If I thought someone like Mark Kelly would give her a better chance, even if I disagree heavily with his previous anti-union stuff, I will say pick him. Trump cannot fucking win at all.
no beginning and no end. boneless wings

Brother Mythos

Quote from: Brother Mythos on July 30, 2024, 02:04:15 PMI see the Kamala Harris Campaign is using the adjective 'weird' to describe TSF and his newly designated partner in crime.

Now, I would have used the word 'creepy' instead. But, after thinking about it a bit, I realized, for the long haul, the Harris Campaign probably did make the better choice. And, that's because 'weird' may be a weaker synonym, but it subtlety implies the noun(s) being modified is/are also 'insignificant.'

Language is a many splendored thing.

"Clinical psychologist explains the power of calling Republicans 'weird'"

As per this article:

"Dr. Carl Hindy, Ph.D., HSP posted in a thread on X that the power of using phrases like "that's weird" or "that's just weird" is that it conveys, "That's just not worth of discussion."

"Therein is the magic," said Hindy. "With Trump it means not allowing him to define the discussion or make the rules. It stops the Dems from chasing him down his rabbit hole. That seems to infuriate Trump, who's now escalating to pull them back into arguments and to continue to define the game.""

And, further along in this article:

"Rhetoric expert and professor Jennifer Mercieca referred to the Friday morning Axios report that purported to reveal the real reason Trump delayed walking out on stage at the National Association of Black Journalists. According to the piece, Trump was furious that he would be fact-checked in real-time.

Mercieca explained that Trump wants to have the definitive word on everything.

"Remember when I explained that, like all authoritarians, Trump is 'cognitively irresponsible,'" she posted on Friday. "He never wants to be questioned or have to give good information. He would rather 'because I said so' be the end of any conversation."

So, as Hindy explained, shutting Trump down with "that's weird" eliminates his power to end the conversation on his terms."

Here's the link to this article:        The Power of Calling Republicans 'Weird'

Brother Mythos

This is something I thought I would never see:

"Latter-day Saints, Democrats and Republicans, join forces to support Harris"

"'Areas heavy with LDS chapels in the east valley were most likely to flip blue,' said BYU professor Jacob Rugh of Utah's 2020 election"

Here's the link to this article:         Latter-day Saints for Harris

First it was the Dude himself, from the Church of the Latter-day Dude, and now this! Again, I did not see it coming.

Brother Mythos

It occurred to me that the upcoming Democratic National Convention in Chicago is going to be in stark contrast to the freak show that was the recent Republicult™ National Convention in Milwaukee.

What we saw at the RNC was a steady parade of convicted felons, soon-to-be convicted felons, self-serving sycophants, has-been celebrities, and two very creepy, weird candidates.

What I expect we will see at the upcoming DNC is a diverse, united, joyous, wildly enthusiastic crowd of Kamala Harris supporters who will formally select, announce, and celebrate her as their presidential nominee. I'm certain the pantheon of A-list celebrities in attendance alone will have TSF whining about them for days, if not weeks, afterwards. And, I believe the momentum Kamala Harris has already built so quickly is going to continue and be multiplied at the convention.

Pergamos

I think her support of the genocide in Israel is costing her a lot of support, and also costing those who might support her a lot of joy.

Doktor Howl

Quote from: Pergamos on August 10, 2024, 05:49:25 PMI think her support of the genocide in Israel is costing her a lot of support, and also costing those who might support her a lot of joy.
We get it.  You want Trump back.
Molon Lube

Pergamos

Quote from: Doktor Howl on August 11, 2024, 04:40:16 PM
Quote from: Pergamos on August 10, 2024, 05:49:25 PMI think her support of the genocide in Israel is costing her a lot of support, and also costing those who might support her a lot of joy.
We get it.  You want Trump back.

Yeah, that's pretty much what she said when people were protesting about it at her rally too.  Since when is "genocide, but without admitting you favor complete genocide" the acceptable lesser evil?

Brother Mythos


Faust

Quote from: Pergamos on August 11, 2024, 05:05:58 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on August 11, 2024, 04:40:16 PM
Quote from: Pergamos on August 10, 2024, 05:49:25 PMI think her support of the genocide in Israel is costing her a lot of support, and also costing those who might support her a lot of joy.
We get it.  You want Trump back.

Yeah, that's pretty much what she said when people were protesting about it at her rally too.  Since when is "genocide, but without admitting you favor complete genocide" the acceptable lesser evil?
Trump recognised Jerusalem as the capital of Israel and planted an embassy there.

Sorry, the US is fully in support of genocide, regardless of which of your parties gets in. No lesser of two evils there, you are as a nation, fully committed to that specific evil.
Sleepless nights at the chateau

Q. G. Pennyworth

Quote from: Pergamos on August 11, 2024, 05:05:58 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on August 11, 2024, 04:40:16 PM
Quote from: Pergamos on August 10, 2024, 05:49:25 PMI think her support of the genocide in Israel is costing her a lot of support, and also costing those who might support her a lot of joy.
We get it.  You want Trump back.

Yeah, that's pretty much what she said when people were protesting about it at her rally too.  Since when is "genocide, but without admitting you favor complete genocide" the acceptable lesser evil?

There is no viable anti-genocide presidential candidate. Vote harm reduction for prez, lobby your senator and congresscritter, and engage in direct action when and where you are able to make opportunities. It's not either or.

Brother Mythos

Quote from: Q. G. Pennyworth on August 12, 2024, 01:03:37 AMThere is no viable anti-genocide presidential candidate. Vote harm reduction for prez, lobby your senator and congresscritter, and engage in direct action when and where you are able to make opportunities. It's not either or.

I agree with the above assessment of our current situation.

TSF and his Republicult™ are an existential threat to democracy, and our republic.

Kamala Harris is not an existential threat to either democracy, or our republic. And, Kamala Harris may, or may not, continue our government's decades old policy of unconditional support for the government of Israel.

So, please do follow Q. G. Pennyworth's advice.

Pergamos

Quote from: Faust on August 11, 2024, 10:15:00 PM
Quote from: Pergamos on August 11, 2024, 05:05:58 PM
Quote from: Doktor Howl on August 11, 2024, 04:40:16 PM
Quote from: Pergamos on August 10, 2024, 05:49:25 PMI think her support of the genocide in Israel is costing her a lot of support, and also costing those who might support her a lot of joy.
We get it.  You want Trump back.

Yeah, that's pretty much what she said when people were protesting about it at her rally too.  Since when is "genocide, but without admitting you favor complete genocide" the acceptable lesser evil?
Trump recognised Jerusalem as the capital of Israel and planted an embassy there.

Sorry, the US is fully in support of genocide, regardless of which of your parties gets in. No lesser of two evils there, you are as a nation, fully committed to that specific evil.

Yes, that's exactly my point.  We've got two options, both of which support genocide, to the point of arming the folks committing it, and sending troops to help make it happen.

Faust

Yes, the US elections are about harm reduction, not getting a good candidate in. As I've said before unless you are planning to break the system you only have the option of least harmful
Sleepless nights at the chateau

Brother Mythos

I phoned Uncle François this morning, and gave him my weekly political report from 'Merica. He, of course, had already seen the glowing reviews in the French media about Kamala Harris's debate performance.

Uncle François, in turn, reported back that the French media sees Kamala Harris as being both presidential, and positive about our future under her leadership.